Hello all,
We have been operating a drop down menu system on http://www.salford.gov.uk for
around a year now and in that time, the menu has changed from a pure JavaScript
version to the more accessible and semantic UDM4 (http://www.udm4.com).
As a local government site, we get tested for
Hi Antony,
Take a look at the suckerfish dropdowns, which have been improved
by htmldog at http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/example/
Fully unobtrusive, accessible and still a nice look and feel!
Succes,
Marc van den Dobbelsteen
(WebbForce - The Netherlands)
Is there anything wrong with using css and adding a js to 'enable'
:hover for everything in ie?
Golding, Antony wrote:
Hello all,
We have been operating a drop down menu system on http://www.salford.gov.uk for
around a year now and in that time, the menu has changed from a pure JavaScript
On 28 Jan 2005, at 01:28, Mike Pepper wrote:
Take a look at some fought over keyphrases like 'website development'
in
Google UK. You'll find many sites spamming with irrelevant noscript,
off-screen absolute positioned text, minute text, hidden layers, even
some
cretins with WOW (white-on-white)
Nope, nothing at all. Just bung it in an IE conditional clause calling a
stylesheet containing an HTC behaviour call.
Like : !--[if IE]link rel=stylesheet href=css/cw_ie.css
type=text/css media=all /![endif]--
with cs_ie.css containing whatever:
#menubar li {
behavior:
Andy,
I have sent literally hundreds of mails to Google illustrating exactly what
the miscreants are doing and how. I take SEO seriously and know most if not
all the techniques. They have never responded in any way other than their
automated responders. I eventually gave up in the knowledge that
Yeah this is what I would do. Just make sure that the site is also
navigable via the top level navigation. Or make different styles for ie
with no js enabled.
Mike Pepper wrote:
Nope, nothing at all. Just bung it in an IE conditional clause calling a
stylesheet containing an HTC behaviour call.
With java disabled in FF1 the drop downs appear as a long bulleted list
and of course everthing else get moved around. Doesn't look like the
same site at all.
On 1/28/2005 2:59:06 AM, wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote:
Hello all,
We have been operating a drop down menu system on
Paul Novitski wrote:
Or, for that matter:
dl
dtHeading/dt
dditem1/dd
dditem2/dd
dditem3/dd
/dl
Rene, I don't quite understand your comment about heading level. How
can you know that the list heading isn't a valid level
without seeing its context in the page?
Well, I
We have been operating a drop down menu system on
http://www.salford.gov.uk for around a year now and in that
time, the menu has changed from a pure JavaScript version to
the more accessible and semantic UDM4 (http://www.udm4.com).
However one of the more recent external tests indicated
Thanks for the responses, guys.
The main problem with the script is when JavaScript is disabled, as Bennie
mentioned. I thought I had the perfect workaround by only displaying the top
level links if JavaScript was disabled, and it looked and worked perfectly,
stopping the corruption of the
Darren,
That's not the real story. It's all well and good to have an honest web site
that people link to and like. In all probably you will then do well in
Google. But you know and I know folks who actively do good SEO work can do
well in Google too. And not only that, but you can do SEO work and
Mike Pepper wrote:
I have sent literally hundreds of mails to Google illustrating exactly
what
the miscreants are doing and how. I take SEO seriously and know most
if not
all the techniques. They have never responded in any way other than
their
automated responders. I eventually gave up in the
The point is that the site is still usable... if it looks slightly (or
extremely) different that's OK. It is highly unlikly that people will
visit a site in more than one browser so what they see is how they think
the site should look.
Also java, and javascript or not the same thing. Java is a
Hello
all
Our marketing
department sent me a postcard with fancy fonts and wanted to put the entire
image in one of the web pages, after shaking and breaking into a cold sweat, I
remembered there was a technique to replace text dynamically with flash. I
thought this would be better than
On 28 Jan 2005, at 00:22, Paul Novitski wrote:
At 01:30 PM 1/27/2005, Tom Livingston wrote:
I was admiring stopdesign.com. I think it's a beautiful layout. But I
am having a problem wrapping my head around the concept behind
building a page like that so that when text is scaled, the containers
Ted Drake wrote:
Does
anyone know where I could find this?
http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2.0-release-candidate-3
Or you may just turn the entire postcard into an image with meaningful
ALT attribute, if there's not too much text...
--
Patrick H. Lauke
Do it the other way around... put the CSS for no javascript support in a
file and attach via a link in the head of your document. Use js to
disable it - thanks to themaninblue for the stylesheet script.
link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=noscript.css
title=noscript /
script
Golding, Antony wrote:
Unfortunately I did this by using an additional style sheet that was embedded in a
noscript tag in the head...
noscriptstyle type=text/css@import url(noscript.css);/style/noscript
The new CSS replaced the styles that would have been setup by the JS to make the static menu
Ted Drake wrote:
Hello all
I could only find a reference to the php version on alistapart. Does
anyone know where I could find this? Has anyone had any experience using
it? Any feedback or suggestions?
Shaun Inman (http://www.shauninman.com) uses it a lot, he's got an
article or two about it
Take a look here, at Mike Industries, http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr
Best regards,
Marilyn Langfeld
http://www.langfeldesigns.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1.301.598.3300 business phone
+1.301.598.0532 fax
+1.202.390.8847 mobile
On Jan 28, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Ted Drake wrote:
Take a look at sIFR
http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr
or look a flash satay:
http://allinthehead.com/retro/234/embedding-macromedia-flash-in-xhtml
Terrence Wood.
Ted Drake wrote:
Our marketing department sent me a postcard with fancy fonts and wanted to put
the entire image
Can someone explain exactly what using * in front of something does such as
*html li {padding:0;margin:0;}
also, I noticed this doesn't validate by w3c, but I see it a lot
--
::Bruce::
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:04:52 -0500, Bruce Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*html li {padding:0;margin:0;}
It's the 'star html' hack, which is only parsed by IE. IE thinks
there's another element 'above' html. There isn't, but hey.
also, I noticed this doesn't validate by w3c, but I see it a
Hello Everyone.
I'm not sure if I made myself clear enough in the last email. This may help better.
What's up with Mac IE and floats? This page works in PC IE and FF and all the browsers on Mac except IE.
Please view this page http://sonze.com/dvre/who.html for me. It works fine on Mac
This is a very general response to your first problem (the
gap in ie).
I havent looked at your code, and there is very likely a better
way to solve it, however
I often find that I run into some small rendering difference
such as this one in IE and on no other browser. In these kinds of
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:14:04 +1100, Ryan Sabir wrote:
Does anyone have a definitive answer on whether search engines take
any notice of CSS?
If you examine your log files, you will find that Googlebot et al never
call for your css file.
Thus they are not viewing it, and not using it to
On 29 Jan 2005, at 8:44 am, Shane Helm wrote:
I'm not sure if I made myself clear enough in the last email. This
may help better.
What's up with Mac IE and floats? This page works in PC IE and FF and
all the browsers on Mac except IE.
Please view this page http://sonze.com/dvre/who.html for
That's just wrong. I am an ASP.NET developer and I am ALSO a web
standards and CSS fan. I try as hard as possible to keep my code
compliant. I don't think it's 100% possible, but I do manage to keep my
code at least 90% standards-compliant. The only offenders you can't
easily get rid of are
Hey All,
I thought this was an interesting article from Digital Web Magazine:
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/the_designer_is_dead/
It speaks of the importance of design and its effects on usability and
*perceived* usability.
Mani Sheriar
Sheriar Designs | www.ManiSheriar.com
925|914.0741
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
the problem is the clear:left on you #container which is kind of
inherited in IE Mac
See
http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/float2misc/#fm002
Awesome! That did it. Thanks a ton! No need for other responses.
I'm not even quite sure why I had the clear:left on the
On 29 Jan 2005, at 5:12 am, Rob Mientjes wrote:
*html li {padding:0;margin:0;}
It's the 'star html' hack, which is only parsed by IE. IE thinks
there's another element 'above' html. There isn't, but hey.
also, I noticed this doesn't validate by w3c, but I see it a lot
It should validate. Get rid
Anybody have a solution for the following:
I have a default style for a element:
#s1 {height: 215px;}
In some of the pages I need to update this value to auto, and I use
!important setting to enforce this, via a updates.css file:
#s1 {height: auto !important;}
Now here is the problem:
I now
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