On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 11:38, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Check out the example page in firefox.
http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/76/
I can tab fine through that page. Using FF v1.0.4 under Linux.
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On 23 May 2005, at 10:38 am, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
A small heads-up to alert those (myself included) using the flash
satay method http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ of an
annoying variation of an old bug in firefox:
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Check out the example page in firefox.
So, is this example 'wrong' ?
dl
dtCAMELFORD OFFICE:/dt
dd20 Market Place/dd
ddCamelford/dd
ddCornwall/dd
ddPL32 9PD/dd
ddTEL 01840 212938/dd
ddFAX 01840 213596/dd
/dl
It's what I generally use for the contact
Peter Ottery wrote:
if you had part of a form that had a checkbox that when checked
enabled a file upload input, how would you mark that up?
G'day Pete
I think your wrapping of the labels is appropriate, but I'd probably
include a fieldset to surround the lot - indicating their relationship
Nothing 'wrong' with that I don't think. I think that the street
address should probably only be contained within a single dd, though
(since it is a single entity). Lines could be broken with br / as
appropraite.
I think it would then be appropraite to wrap the inner text of each
dd with an
Apologies - I hit send too soon and the example was wrong. I meant
that you could end up with this:
dl
dtCAMELFORD OFFICE:/dt
ddaddress20 Market Placebr /
Camelfordbr /
Cornwallbr /
PL32 9PD/address/dd
ddTEL address01840 212938/address/dd
On Sun, 22 May 2005 22:30:53 +0100, Ben Ward wrote:
Lea - I think the problematic part of the address / element as
described in Geoff's link is the part reading authorship for the
current document.
Yes, *after* I posted (typical) I went and had a further look around.
The HTML4 specs are more
Hello All -
I have the opportunity to hire two people in the next few
weeks to help me with my one-man-band web development business.
Problem is, these two know only the most basic aspects of HTML
and don't know anything about CSS or web standards.
Problem also is that I can't afford to
On 5/23/05, Cole Kuryakin - x7m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have the opportunity to hire two people in the next few weeks to help me
with my one-man-band web development business.
Problem is, these two know only the most basic aspects of HTML and don't
know anything about CSS or web
ask them to purchase eric meyer's books:
eric meyer on css
more eric meyer on css
cascading style sheets: a definitive guide
or you could purchase the books for your library.
hth,
dwain
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http://www.alforddesigngroup.com
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On Monday, May 23, 2005 7:35 AM, Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote:
By proficiency, I mean that I can give them a Photoshop design comp,
and they will be able to create an XHTML code foundation as well as a
CSS style and positioning spec without too much whining and
head-scratching.
My plan is
Hi Cole,
Sounds like you want to train someone in the (not easy) transition to
standards by having to do very little. If you can find a way to get them
proficient in the basics, have a thorough knowledge of hacks and browser
behaviour and be able to produce original designs (sort of like zen
Hi Bob,
Bert Doorn recently suggested to me that I try:
object data=whatever.swf width=x height=y
type=application/x-shockwave-flash
param name=movie value=whatever.swf /
param name=quality value=high /
pNo Flash?/p
/object
and so
I notice that I forgot to include a link to the page with the problem.
My apologies - here it is:
http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/dhha/home4.html
Bob, I didn't put in the code you suggested yet. I did try it locally.
IE6 STUBBORNLY refuses to show the Flash. The above link will take
Cole Kuryakin - x7m wrote:
My plan is to get them completely compeletely trained in these areas
before letting them dive into any real project development.
A few thoughts about basic learning:
No books and training-methods can beat the time-factor. The
learning-curve is steep, and no one can
Leslie Riggs wrote:
http://www.theonlineworks.com/test/dhha/home4.html
Bob, I didn't put in the code you suggested yet. I did try it locally.
IE6 STUBBORNLY refuses to show the Flash.
You have an error in your markup. Try changing
param name=top_dhha
Ian Fenn wrote:
I'm testing this on browsercam at the moment. A couple of browsers seem to
have issues. See:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=165026
Those are known issues of the Satay method, some of which are even
outlined in the original ALA article
Thanks heaps, Patrick. That did the trick. I'd completely overlooked
that the param name had to be movie.
It validates! It WORKS! Thank you again.
Leslie Riggs
You have an error in your markup. Try changing
param name=top_dhha
value=flash/cont_dhha.swf?path=flash/top_dhha.swf /
to
I'm confused as to what is happening here. Will someone please try the
opening page of www.kernowimages.co.uk , confirm that it works in IE, and
save my sanity? For me it works in WinXP running IE5.5 and 6, as well as
FF1, Opera 8.
If you have time, you could check the 'credits' page as well.
Works for me using IE6/W2K
Kim
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Hi all,
Personally, I would never use Flash anywhere on a website, but
unfortunately I have a costumer who forces me to.
I'm recoding a site that was originally made with Frontpage (don't
worry, not a single piece of that code is left, and it's all valid
XHTML Strict) and the original designer
Since you helped me, I'll help you.
For just a split second, I see a broken image icon in the upper left
corner of the area with the Flash (using WinXP Pro SP2 with IE6 on a
cable connection), then the Flash loads fine. Same with the credits
page. I think the first time someone loads this,
Patrick wrote:
I'm testing this on browsercam at the moment. A couple of browsers seem
to have issues. See:
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=165026
Those are known issues of the Satay method, some of which are even
outlined in the original ALA article
Kristian wrote:
So is there some way I can test if people have Flash installed or not?
Or do you have some other suggestion?
On a recent project I tested for the existence of Flash using some
publicly-available JavaScript. I then served up an image if Flash wasn't
installed. The noscript
Ian Fenn wrote:
On a recent project I tested for the existence of Flash using some
publicly-available JavaScript. I then served up an image if Flash wasn't
installed. The noscript alternative was also the image. It was the only way
I could seem to serve something sensible to all browsers.
Out
I'm a CSS novice and have a terrible time getting my Web site to display consistently across all platforms, but there's only one platform that consistently displays the site radically differently from all the others-- Microsoft Internet Explorer (shocking, I know, but true).
Is it possible to
When validating a page containing a form for XHTML 1.0 Transitional, I
get the following message regarding a textarea:
required attribute cols not specified
Why can't we specify a percentage width for the textarea in the CSS
instead? It works, but it doesn't validate without the cols
On May 23, 2005, at 10:58 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Keep them away from anything that isn't strictly standard-based (x)html
and CSS for a while. Let them work and test against real browsers and
the validators, and make sure IE/win doesn't get in the way with its
broken standard-support and
Gregory Alan Gross wrote:
Is it possible to create a separate style sheet with different style
rules for individual browsers to enable it to display a site in a
uniform manner?
See: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/condcom.html
... for the best way to feed IE/win separate stylesheet(s), through
I'm with Ben on this one. I learned loads after installing Firefox and
adding the validator and developer toolbar. I went to different sites
and ran them through the validator, saw the errors (or not) and learned
about how to and how not to code to standards.
Leslie Riggs
Keep them
last week i poted a question on this topic asking list members what
they thought of the variousmethods of embedding flash
below is a link to flash object so far it has never failed any test
posed to it
http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/03/31/proper-flash-embedding-flashobject-best-practices/
What if the tab index is set in the swf?
do we still have this problem?
A small heads-up to alert those (myself included) using the flash satay
method http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ of an annoying
variation of an old bug in firefox:
The flash satay method has become a widely
Sam wrote:
below is a link to flash object so far it has never failed any test
posed to it
http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/03/31/proper-flash-embedding-flashobject-best
-practices/
I tried implementing this method last week and whilst the examples worked
fine on my desktop, I couldn't get the
I wrote:
I tried implementing this method last week and whilst the examples worked
fine on my desktop, I couldn't get the code to work from my server.
I forgot to add that it crashed with a JavaScript error - object expected.
All the best,
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Ian Fenn
Chopstix Media
Ian Fenn wrote:
I wrote:
I tried implementing this method last week and whilst the examples worked
fine on my desktop, I couldn't get the code to work from my server.
I forgot to add that it crashed with a _javascript_ error - object expected.
All the best,
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Ian
cols is used to define the number of characters on a line. That is
percent is giving you an error. The default for this in html 4.01 is
80.
I believe in xhtml it is required to be defined.
Parker
Unfolded WebDesign
http://webdesign.parkertorrence.com
On 5/23/05, Leslie Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I keep a list of online tutorials at my msn group site, http://groups.msn.com/htmlwebdesigndreamers/
and try to keep it as up to date as possible. You will see "CSS Tutorials
in the lefthand nav bar of the group. There you will find tuts and
articles from beginners to advance that I've
I'm using XHTML 1.0 Transitional. I don't have a percentage defined in
the markup. It's defined in the CSS as width: 65% and I left the cols
attribute unspecified. What I want to understand is why is cols
required by the W3C standard, if the width can be defined in CSS? Is
there a specific
For people interested in à la suckerfish menus, this one now allows
tabbing navigation in MSIE too:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/demo.asp
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com
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Leslie Riggs wrote:
What I want to understand is why is cols required by the W3C standard,
if the width can be defined in CSS?
The way I find it easiest to explain is to think about what happens if
CSS was to be disabled in the browser, or the browser was incapable of
processing CSS (take
Hi, I have the opportunity to hire two people in the next few weeks to help me with my one-man-band web development business. Problem is, these two know only the most basic aspects of HTML and don't know anything about CSS or web standards. Problem also is that I can't afford to hire anyone
Isn't the default 80 columns?
Leslie Riggs
What I want to understand is why is cols required by the W3C standard,
if the width can be defined in CSS?
The way I find it easiest to explain is to think about what happens if
CSS was to be disabled in the browser, or the browser was
Leslie Riggs wrote:
Isn't the default 80 columns?
From the DTD, my understanding is that cols is a required attribute but
no default value is specified (see
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd). It could be
that the defaults you refer to are browser defaults.
Cheers
on your site is says
What's Bad
We're using CSS for another purpose than presentation.
why is it that bad?
On 5/24/05, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For people interested in à la suckerfish menus, this one now allows
tabbing navigation in MSIE too:
Frederic Fery wrote:
on your site is says
What's Bad
We're using CSS for another purpose than presentation.
why is it that bad?
It is said that flyout and dropdown menus belong to the behavior layer and
that CSS should not be used to accomplish such things.
Also, because this technique
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