Re: [WSG] html vs. html <- neither.

Who is using Red Dot for CMS? We recently went through a merger of several companies (UNIFI) and some of us use Red Dot, and some (us here in Cincinnati) use Stellent - currently we are going through upgrade of older Stellent to Oracle CMS. Any insights on these two CMS? Anya V. Gerasimch

[WSG] Browsers and Zooming

Are all browsers now using zooming to resize pages? I noticed FF2 wasn't using zooming but FF3 is and I know IE and Safari already do it. Any background information in this? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/gu

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

On 3 Jul 2008, at 13:41, James Jeffery wrote: Are all browsers now using zooming to resize pages? The latest version of each of the big four do by default. Happily, it can be turned off in at least some of them. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ ***

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

The latest versions of the 4 major browsers (IE, Opera, Safari and Firefox) all do zooming. It is *relatively* safe to assume that Firefox, Safari and Opera users will update their browsers on a regular basis as these browsers all have to be sought out and downloaded initially. However IE6 still

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

I wonder what a partially sighted user would thing of these 'improvements'. Would they be glad that now they can see images a little easier and the layout seems to break less or would they be annoyed at the sudden appearance of a horizontal scrollbar? On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 2:14 PM, James Leslie

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

On 3 Jul 2008, at 14:55, Mark Stickley wrote: I wonder what a partially sighted user would thing of these 'improvements'. Would they be glad that now they can see images a little easier and the layout seems to break less or would they be annoyed at the sudden appearance of a horizontal scro

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Stickley Sent: 03 July 2008 14:56 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming I wonder what a partially sighted user would t

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

>Yes, a similar criticism has been levelled at Elastic layouts >-- that when you enlarge the text the layout grows with it, I think you meant to say MAY grow - a carefully designed elastic layout will not expand the viewport horizontally. Mike Mike Brockington Web Development Specialist www.

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

That's such a good point - that's been available since Windows 95 - possibly before. Surely if that's the behaviour they were after they would just use the functions built in to the operating system. Mark On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Patrick Lauke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ---

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

That's the layout I am working on now for a large secured site. You have to make sure, that almost all values are using ems and percent, and that there are no fixed widths anywhere in the blocks of content. - this way you will not get horizontal scrolling when enlarging site. Anya V. Gerasi

[WSG] 3rd in Stuttgart

Good Morning WSG list. (: I am a Brazilian guy on a trip schedule to Stuttgart/Germany on the 3rd of October, now I am working in the Design field focused on Usability and Accessibility (front end engineering) here in Brazil. I will use my holidays to Europe in order to meet some European

[WSG] Validation

Hi everyone, I have a flash animation in my webpage and this causes a big problem when i have to validate the page. Can someone help me out? -- Fuji kusaka *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsu

Re: [WSG] Validation

On 3 Jul 2008, at 17:01, Fuji kusaka wrote: I have a flash animation in my webpage and this causes a big problem when i have to validate the page. Can someone help me out? http://validator.w3.org/docs/help.html#faq-flash -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/

Re: [WSG] Validation

Google is your friend: SWFObject2 On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Fuji kusaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have a flash animation in my webpage and this causes a big problem when i > have to validate the page. > > Can someone help me out? > -- > Fuji kusaka > **

Re: [WSG] Validation

Hi Fuji, Take a look at http://www.swffix.org/. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Fuji kusaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have a flash animation in my webpage and this causes a big problem when i > have to validate the page. > > Can someone help me out? > -- > Fuji kusaka >

Re: [WSG] Validation

Fuji kusaka wrote: I have a flash animation in my webpage and this causes a big problem when i have to validate the page. Can someone help me out? Hopefully: -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive D

Re: [WSG] Validation

Many parts of the tag can make a validator upset - especially the portion. You're best bet is to add the flash using javascript via one of the popular scripts like swfobject, ufo etc... Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /"Clea

Re: [WSG] Validation

No problem, what's your budget? ;-) Joe On Jul 03, 2008, at 17:20, Hassan Schroeder wrote: Fuji kusaka wrote: I have a flash animation in my webpage and this causes a big problem when i have to validate the page. Can someone help me out? Hopefully:

Re: [WSG] Validation

You can have standards compliant Flash instances (even though the content of the flash swf itself may possibly not be standards- compliant itself) without JavaScript. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ Is one source for this information. Joe On Jul 03, 2008, at 17:30, Joseph Tay

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

I wonder what a partially sighted user would thing of these 'improvements'. Would they be glad that now they can see images a little easier and the layout seems to break less or would they be annoyed at the sudden appearance of a horizontal scrollbar? I think web developers have an irrational f

[WSG] Juliette Cox/Person/DOJ is out of the office.

I will be out of the office starting 02/07/2008 and will not return until 07/07/2008. I am out of the office until Monday 7 July. If you have any queries relating to web information architecture or categories, please contact Colette Corr on 41595. If your query isn't urgent, I will respond on Mo

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

"I have never encountered a friend, family member or other "civilian" who has a problem scrolling in either direction if necessary." A horizontal scrollbar does not prevent users from accessing content but it reduces the efficiency with which they can do so. Not only does zooming introduce the hor

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

On Jul 3, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Al Sparber wrote: an irrational fear of scrollbars When a block of text exceeds the viewport width, that means horizontal scrolling for *each line* - a royal PITA. If a right hand column falls outside the viewing area, it's not unreasonable to assume that a si

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

I haven't been totally following this thread, but My 15 yo son has low vision. It has come on very recently (last 6 months), He is 20/200 corrected. We have discovered the zoom feature on the old version of Mac OSx... he prefers it much more than enlarging text. We have played with some o

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

From: "Trisha Salas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I haven't been totally following this thread, but My 15 yo son has low vision. It has come on very recently (last 6 months), He is 20/200 corrected. We have discovered the zoom feature on the old version of Mac OSx... he prefers it much more than

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

From: "Andrew Maben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming On Jul 3, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Al Sparber wrote: an irrational fear of scrollbars When a block of text exceeds the viewport width, that means horizontal scrolling for *ea

[WSG] Adobe's PDF format now an ISO standard

http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1141 The* Portable Document Format (PDF)*, undeniably one of the most commonly used formats for electronic documents, is now accessible as an ISO International Standard - ISO 32000-1. - Andrew ***

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

Well here's a guy who has done a bit of usability testing. To quote from the article: "We know from user testing that users hate horizontal scrolling and always comment negatively when they encounter it". http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20050711.html Of course he could be entirely wrong but I don'

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

On 2008/07/03 22:32 (GMT+0100) Steve Green apparently typed: > designers tend to design for a minimum screen > resolution of 1024x768 while there are still a significant number of people > still using lower resolutions. This is most unfortunate for all, because screen resolution should be a non-f

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

From: "Steve Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well here's a guy who has done a bit of usability testing. To quote from the article: "We know from user testing that users hate horizontal scrolling and always comment negatively when they encounter it". http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20050711.html Of

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

- More important than anything we can discuss here, I wish your son well and pray that his vision problems are managed. *** Al, Thanks for the thoughts and prayers...it appears that there isn'

Re: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

Talking about zooming. I am trying to use PHP to create a web page that has a default font size (layout_medium.css). As it stands, I have broken everything since I am so new to PHP. I use Firefox 3.0 as my main browser. It looks Okay, however, the H1 foreground and background colors are not happ