Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread Rob Crowther
On 20/12/2011 23:44, Chris Price wrote: One advantage I can see in opening a new window (on a larger screen at least) is you can dismiss the page by closing that window rather than feeling you are being taken somewhere you don't want to go. Is this context sensitive? Yes it is context

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread MJ Ray
Janice Schwarz jan...@geekartist.net On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:42 AM, MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop wrote: I'm pretty sure there is no such standard preventing mobile phones from opening new windows because my aging nokia e90 can do it (since one of the early upgrades - move to the link, left

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread coder
In one sense, this argument is fallacious, because whatever the web designer does decides what happens when a user just 'clicks a link'. In my experience, most folk 'out there' don't know about right clicking. To say 'it is the user's choice' is mainly untrue, because he/she doesn't know

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 21/12/2011 12:16, coder wrote: In one sense, this argument is fallacious, because whatever the web designer does decides what happens when a user just 'clicks a link'. In my experience, most folk 'out there' don't know about right clicking. To say 'it is the user's choice' is mainly untrue,

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread David Hucklesby
On 12/21/11 5:04 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: On 21/12/2011 12:16, coder wrote: In one sense, this argument is fallacious, because whatever the web designer does decides what happens when a user just 'clicks a link'. In my experience, most folk 'out there' don't know about right clicking. To say

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 21/12/2011 17:14, David Hucklesby wrote: Excellent points. If your reason for wanting to open a new window or tab is to be helpful, I suggest telling your visitors about the right-click option right there on your web page. Ah, but then do you also need explain about tap-and-hold context

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread Keith Steinacher
Please remove me from the WSG mail-serv. I am no longer in the Website business. Thank you for your support in the past. God Bless, Keith Steinacher Chief Bottle-Washer On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Patrick H. Lauke re...@splintered.co.uk wrote: On 21/12/2011 17:14, David Hucklesby

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread David Hucklesby
On 12/21/11 9:35 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: On 21/12/2011 17:14, David Hucklesby wrote: Excellent points. If your reason for wanting to open a new window or tab is to be helpful, I suggest telling your visitors about the right-click option right there on your web page. Ah, but then do you

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread coder
I have used this CSS : a[rel=external] { padding-right: 13px; background: url(outofit.gif) no-repeat right top; } With this code: a href=../sjp.html rel=external onclick=window.open(this.href); return false;THIS/a is a link to a new window or, for html5: a href=../sjp.html rel=external

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 12/19/11 6:09 PM, Alex Mironov wrote: Muchof my research suggests that the recommended practice is to keep people within the same window/tab except in some instances. Most of the responses to this seem to focus on the evils of opening a new *window*. I'm under the impression that Webkit

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
On 21/12/2011 19:44, Hassan Schroeder wrote: On 12/19/11 6:09 PM, Alex Mironov wrote: Muchof my research suggests that the recommended practice is to keep people within the same window/tab except in some instances. Most of the responses to this seem to focus on the evils of opening a new

[WSG] A Holiday Treat from PVII

2011-12-21 Thread Al Sparber
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Re: [WSG] A Holiday Treat from PVII

2011-12-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Looking at the demo page, it looks like authors would be better using a faux-columns technique which would also remove the need for polling. Or is there a better reason to go the JS route? -- Thierry On Dec 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Al Sparber wrote: Happy Holidays from PVII Save time this

Re: [WSG] A Holiday Treat from PVII

2011-12-21 Thread Al Sparber
On 12/21/2011 5:54 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Looking at the demo page, it looks like authors would be better using a faux-columns technique which would also remove the need for polling. Or is there a better reason to go the JS route? It's easier on the designer and allows for quick

Re: [WSG] Expected behaviour of links to external websites

2011-12-21 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/12/21 12:16 (GMT) coder composed: In my experience, most folk 'out there' don't know about right clicking. To say 'it is the user's choice' is mainly untrue, because he/she doesn't know they've got a choice The same situation exists here as with text size control. Just because a user

[WSG] Re: WSG Digest (Danielle Johnson - Dec/Jan leave arrangements)

2011-12-21 Thread Danielle Johnson
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[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

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