Re: [WSG] usage of new entities in dtd's

2005-04-07 Thread liorean
that no browser in common use handles due to their lack of SGML parsing. -- David liorean Andersson uri:http://liorean.web-graphics.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Validation error question for XHTML Strict

2005-05-06 Thread liorean
- for example like this: form div input It's a question of direct parent, not ancestor. -- David liorean Andersson uri:http://liorean.web-graphics.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Konquerer becomes the 2nd browser to pass Acid2

2005-11-30 Thread liorean
browser to pass it. -- David liorean Andersson uri:http://liorean.web-graphics.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] *Why* doesn't Google validate? was New logo scheme was talking points for standards

2005-12-10 Thread liorean
. - Dynamic elements: Things such as being logged in/not logged in, having Google Desktop or not, sponsored links, search listings etc. all need be take in consideration. -- David liorean Andersson uri:http://liorean.web-graphics.com

Re: [WSG] *Why* doesn't Google validate? was New logo scheme was talking points for standards

2005-12-10 Thread liorean
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Re: [WSG] HTML Numeric and Named Entities

2006-01-10 Thread liorean
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Re: [WSG] HTML Numeric and Named Entities

2006-01-11 Thread liorean
On 11/01/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: liorean wrote: Character references refer to Unicode code points independent of the document encoding and character set. At least for HTML4 and XML, if not for HTML3.2. As far as character references in HTML are concerned, they have

Re: [WSG] Which unit is better for web site font size?

2006-02-01 Thread liorean
for large size. -- David liorean Andersson uri:http://liorean.web-graphics.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **

Re: [WSG] [Please don't flame :)] HTML, XML what's the difference.

2006-02-08 Thread liorean
or behavioral hints exists explicitly in the document, because the defaults on not-strictly-semantical aspects are also part of the semantic sets (In my view, at least. Which isn't neccesarily canon...) Counter arguments against it I think I've already mentioned. -- David liorean Andersson uri:http

Re: [WSG] Today's lesson: Respect - be courteous up or leave

2006-02-09 Thread liorean
message without any trimming... -- David liorean Andersson uri:http://liorean.web-graphics.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

Re: [WSG] IE7 - The Good the Bad and the Ugly

2006-03-03 Thread liorean
will realise the risk of confusion and make the next release ie7b3, but I wouldn't count on that. -- David liorean Andersson uri:http://liorean.web-graphics.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2006-03-08 Thread liorean
it is either whitelisted or otherwise excluded from the autoresponder. See uri:http://web-graphics.com/mtarchive/001730.php -- David liorean Andersson uri:http://liorean.web-graphics.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] input name and id

2007-04-19 Thread liorean
attribute is required on form controls but not on form functionality. The DTD format doesn't allow this type of granularity however. In other words, just because something is valid according to the HTML DTD doesn't mean it's valid according to the HTML specification. -- David liorean Andersson

Re: [WSG] input name and id

2007-04-19 Thread liorean
elements (i.e. all type attribute values other than reset and submit, including the value button, entirely independent of whether the form control may be successful or not). -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Wikipedia article help wanted

2007-05-14 Thread liorean
been doing some work on trying to present syntax-semantics in a way that lends itself to a SUCCESS/FAILURE/CRASH/PEG result on each feature, but that's trickier... If anyone is interested in helping me writing test cases for that testsuite, just send me a mail. -- David liorean Andersson

Re: self-closing tags in HTML, was: [WSG] A CMS for POSH sites?

2007-05-29 Thread liorean
://liorean.net/xhtmllayout.xhtml All of them are valid documents and except for DOCTYPE, XML prologue and XHTML namespace the document they describe is identical. -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http

Re: self-closing tags in HTML, was: [WSG] A CMS for POSH sites?

2007-05-29 Thread liorean
On 29/05/07, Alastair Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/29/07, liorean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems strange that the closing slash is taken as the close, rather than the greater than sign, is that in the HTML spec somewhere? Yes, in the SGML declaration. Which someone linked

Re: [WSG] Usefulness of JSDoc

2007-07-25 Thread liorean
of that. Coming to JS from a back-end developer perspective I find this very strange. The perspective difference is quite a lot of the reason, I feel. Different considerations give different behaviour. -- David liorean Andersson

Re: [WSG] (X)HTML Best Practice Sheet goes live - correct link

2007-08-11 Thread liorean
say. -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] CSS, the DOM and whitespace (rant)

2007-08-16 Thread liorean
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Re: [WSG] document.getElementById slow?

2007-10-06 Thread liorean
. -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2007-11-29 Thread liorean
are deprecated in HTML4.01 but really ought not be since they convey semantics that are inherent to the document structure and aren't purely presentational. It's likely they will be un-deprecated in HTML5. -- David liorean Andersson *** List

Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-14 Thread liorean
a dependency of that code on the bug in question, than fixing the bug? If such dependencies are created, they make it harder to actually fix bugs. -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] When can I start using E4X

2008-01-21 Thread liorean
. 3. And maybe last, E4X. -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-23 Thread liorean
-expression curlies-and-semicolons, it has object orientation and higher order programming features, it has reified closures and lexical scope with a few dynamic scope features etc. It's a hybrid language. But it does have object orientation. -- David liorean Andersson

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-23 Thread liorean
keyed arrays of fixed size. In fact, true arrays are only available in JavaScript in the form of strings, and those are read only. -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-23 Thread liorean
signatures connected with the type system but that does not allow code inheritance. Some have only this and no implementation inheritance mechanism. -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-23 Thread liorean
2008/10/24 Anthony Ziebell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Forgot to clarify one thing: ECMAScript is fully OO in my opinion, however JavaScript is not a full implementation of ECMAScript, unfortunately. liorean wrote: JavaScript is a superset of ECMAScript. If ECMAScript is opbject oriented, so

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-24 Thread liorean
. But they use classical inheritance, and because JavaScript does not some people have got into their heads that Classical inheritance == OOP which means JavaScritp != OOP. But that's a misconception. -- David liorean Andersson *** List

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-24 Thread liorean
to find tutorials or articles about separate areas of JavaScript: uri:http://www.d.umn.edu/itss/support/Training/Online/webdesign/javascript.html -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-27 Thread liorean
. Anthony Ziebell is arguing that it's not object oriented based on the false premise that classical inheritance is the way to achieve object orientation and prototypal inheritance is not, despite himself linking articles stating the contrary. -- David liorean Andersson

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-27 Thread liorean
2008/10/27 liorean [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The first implementation of JavaScript is still alive in the form of Mozilla SpiredMonkey Or SpiderMonkey, as it is properly called :) -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-27 Thread liorean
think I'm missrepresenting you at all when I say you've argued against that point. -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-27 Thread liorean
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Re: [WSG] Javascript classical inheritence [was: JavaScript clarification please]

2008-10-27 Thread liorean
or for built in operators. You're still not getting around that there's no built in support for classical inheritance, other than the pseudo-classes that are used in the ECMAScript spec internally but not for language for us users. -- David liorean Andersson

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-27 Thread liorean
JavaScript additions to ECMAScript. The name JavaScript is very seldom used by Microsoft. If you read Microsoft employee blogs and official statements, you almost never encounter that term. They prefer to either use their own JScript name or the ECMAScript name. -- David liorean Andersson

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-27 Thread liorean
2008/10/28 liorean [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, it's a registred trademark of Sun, Actually a Trademark, not a Registred Trademark, apparently. -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread liorean
liorean wrote: (Netscape had originally intended to use the name LiveScript.) 2008/10/28 Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, it was initially released as LiveScript and renamed later. IIRC Navigator 2.0 also supported a mocha: pseudo-protocol like the javascript: pseudo-protocol we

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread liorean
/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Reference [2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Guide -- David liorean Andersson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join