Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-08 Thread Ian Lloyd
On 6 Mar 2004, at 20:44, russ weakley wrote: Here are some other online accessibility tools: snip .. and if I may be so bold, you might find some of these useful (and there's a pop-up window generator there too): http://www.accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/default.asp Ian Lloyd

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-08 Thread Ian Lloyd
On 6 Mar 2004, at 21:44, Martin Chapman wrote: I was finding it bit daunting, since the site I am re-coding is based on ASP.NET, and as I am sure many of you know... Microsoft + ASP.NET + web = 666 Reall, what we need is a book that explains how to achieve acceptable levels of

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-08 Thread Ian Lloyd
On 7 Mar 2004, at 12:40, Peter Firminger wrote: Having said that, something like: a href=copyright.htm onClick=window.open('', 'copyright','toolbar=0,location=0,directories=0,status=0,menubar=0,scro llbar s=auto,resizable=0,width=310,height=300') target=copyright will still work ok as the

RE: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-07 Thread Jaime Wong
://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/07/04 16:33:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Bobby question My next question is for e.g. using the style switcher js from ALA, or whichever js written by programmers for your

RE: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-07 Thread Jaime Wong
With Regards Jaime Wong ~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~ ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03/07/04 20:11:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Bobby question Hi Jaime, A noscript tag is read only when _javascript_ isn'

RE: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-07 Thread Jaime Wong
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Bobby question Thanks Peter for the wonderful explanation :) I tested it straight away but facing some problem with Strict DTD. This is what I have in my html script type=text/javascript var d=new Date(); yr=d.getFullYear(); if (yr!=2003) document.write(- +yr

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread LC 55
Hi Justin Martin! Sorry about the previous post, it should have been addressed to Martin not to Justin, but it may be interesting for anyone who is thinking of buying the Bobby CD. Guess it's just too early here in the UK. Apologies again, JG --- Justin French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On

RE: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread Michael Kear
Sorry if this is such a dumb question that it displays more of my ignorance than anything else, but this is the second time in the last few weeks I've heard references to Bobby, but Who the hell is Bobby? And what does he have to do with us? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP

RE: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread LC 55
Hi Michael, hope this helps you. Bobby will allow you to test web pages and help expose and repair barriers to accessibility and encourage compliance with existing accessibility guidelines, such as Section 508 and the W3C's WCAG. View this at -

RE: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread Peter Firminger
bobby. Bad tool. P -Original Message- From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Bobby question Sorry if this is such a dumb question that it displays more of my ignorance than anything else

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread russ weakley
Michael, There are other accessibility tools that have better reputations than Bobby now. Bobby has received growing criticism over the last few years - here is an example: http://www.evolt.org/article/Why_Bobby_Approved_is_not_Enough/4090/9278/inde x.html?format=print Here are some other online

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread Martin Chapman
Thanks everyone. I'll certainly check those alternatives out, thanks Russ. I was finding it bit daunting, since the site I am re-coding is based on ASP.NET, and as I am sure many of you know... Microsoft + ASP.NET + web = 666. The client doesn't really know what they want from the

RE: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Martin, I'm not familiar with this at all. How much of this example would be auto-generated? One would assume that a lot of it could be fixed by putting things in the right place (scripts in the head section and adding a doctype). http://www.add2web.dk/aspdatagrid/Sample/default.asp P

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread russ weakley
Regarding accreditation, I reckon the best place to start is the Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) which produces (amongst other things) Web Content Accessibility Guidelines. These guidelines have include the all-important checkpoints that are broken into three priorities. Ideally, web

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread Martin Chapman
Thanks once again Russ... will take great care in reading those sites you've suggested. Did I mention I'm 3/4 throught the project :oO ;o) And, there is always this list if you get stuck. I am sure that there are accessibility experts lurking in our ranks that could help out if detailed

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread Jaime Wong
PROTECTED] Date: 03/06/04 20:07:24 To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Bobby question Regarding accreditation, I reckon the best place to start is the Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) which produces (amongst other things) Web Content Accessibility Guidelines. These guidelines have include

RE: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-06 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Jaime, Yes it's very important. Many differently-abled people don't use a mouse. They use the keyboard to navigate around a page/site (generally much faster and more efficiently than any mouse user). By using onclick or onmousedown etc. you may be blocking their access to whatever the resource

Re: [WSG] Bobby question

2004-03-05 Thread Justin French
On Saturday, March 6, 2004, at 11:28 AM, Martin Chapman wrote: Just a quick question regarding the Bobby accessibility site. I am currently working on a site to convert to standards/validation specs. However, 99% of the site is user/password protected. I get round W3C validating the protected