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Russ,
My thought exactly! Depending on the font, there are times when it is
difficult to determine, at first glance, where sentences begin and end.
By the way, I still use a double space at the end of a period as we
were
taught this in grammar and writing classes, not
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Russ,
My thought exactly! Depending on the font, there are times when
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:52:54 -, designer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Surely, the argument against the double space is only a short step away from
it's logical extension: don't have paragraphs either, just have continuous
text . . .?
The logic behind both is surely the same?
No. The logic
Because there's such a mix of opinions about the value of double-spacing
between sentences and its history, I asked my friend John D. Berry,
typographer book designer of note, to give me the low-down on
double-spacing to post to this list.
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At 01:50 PM
, February 11, 2005 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] double space after period
Because there's such a mix of opinions about the value of double-spacing
between sentences and its history, I asked my friend John D. Berry,
typographer book designer of note, to give me the low-down on
double-spacing to post
THREAD CLOSED
Thanks, Paul, for the very detailed information.
However, as Richard has said, all opinions will have now been covered. The
thread has run a very long and winding course.
So, no more on this thread please!
Thanks
Russ
great comments thus far, but i think we're getting into
Paul Novitski wrote:
Because there's such a mix of opinions about the value of double-spacing
between sentences and its history, I asked my friend John D. Berry,
typographer book designer of note, to give me the low-down on
double-spacing to post to this list.
john wrote:
Forgive me if this doesn't specifically relate to standards, but perhaps
it does.
I'm simply wondering about the grammatically-correct double space after
a period. For years, it's never mattered to me, but I have a client who
is a stickler for this sort of thing, and he asked if I
Something which no one has mentioned is the possible accessibility
benefits of the extra spacing following the period. My thoughts are that
the extra spacing will more easily distinguish the sentence for all, but
particularly those with cognitive disabilities
Unfortunately, I can't find any
Lachlan Hardy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:34 PM said:
john wrote:
Forgive me if this doesn't specifically relate to standards, but
perhaps it does.
I'm simply wondering about the grammatically-correct double space
after a period. For years, it's never
This whole thing is one of my pet peeves so take my harsh criticism of
it with a grain of salt please. :)
I agree wholeheartedly, one of my pet peeves as well, especially after
battling it through the early days of desktop publishing in the 80s. This
isn't a matter of grammar or standards, it's
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:33:41 +1100, Lachlan Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Something which no one has mentioned is the possible accessibility
benefits of the extra spacing following the period. My thoughts are that
the extra spacing will more easily distinguish the sentence for all, but
I agree wholeheartedly, one of my pet peeves as well, especially after
battling it through the early days of desktop publishing in the 80s. This
isn't a matter of grammar or standards, it's a matter of correct use of
punctuation.
James, I think you and Chris are missing Lachlan's point.
Hi guys,
Here's a little script that might help this issue.
It takes the element with the id of content and adds an extra white space
at the end of a sentence to the existing one.
This way, the code is still clean and you can have your whitespace cake and
eat it too! :o)
function addSpace() {
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:33:41 +1100, Lachlan Hardy wrote:
As everyone has said, the convention has been dropped. Should it have been?
To be honest, I still type that way, and think it adds to the
readability of text.
But.
We can't produce it in HTML, so I'm not sure that there is any point to
At 01:33 PM 2/9/2005, Lachlan Hardy wrote:
Something which no one has mentioned is the possible accessibility
benefits of the extra spacing following the period. My thoughts are that
the extra spacing will more easily distinguish the sentence for all, but
particularly those with cognitive
At 03:31 PM 2/9/2005, Richard Czeiger wrote:
Here's a little script that might help this issue.
It takes the element with the id of content and adds an extra white space
at the end of a sentence to the existing one.
This way, the code is still clean and you can have your whitespace cake and
eat it
Lachlan Hardy wrote:
Something which no one has mentioned is the possible accessibility
benefits of the extra spacing following the period. My thoughts are that
the extra spacing will more easily distinguish the sentence for all, but
particularly those with cognitive disabilities
Interesting
. It
would be easier to code and degrade better.
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From: Paul Novitski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] double space after period
At 01:33 PM 2/9/2005, Lachlan Hardy wrote:
Something which
Ted Drake wrote:
How about this
One flew over the cuckoos nest should be on the top of everyone's list
of kid's books.br / In fact, it is
even more important than Joe Joe the Big ol' cornflake. br /
style sheet
br {display:inline; width:2em;}
I don't even know what this would work like, just
I must have been in a poetic mood and thought about the lines dropping down, I
didn't think about the extra space.
I need some coffee.
Thanks for pointing it out Patrick.
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I don't even know what this would work like, just throwing it out. It
would be easier to code
Wayne Godfrey wrote:
This isn't a matter of grammar or standards, it's a matter of correct
use of punctuation. With the thought process that's being put forth
here, would you also put double spaces before and after an em dash?
What about commas, quote marks, and all other forms of
At 04:19 PM 2/9/2005, Ted Drake wrote:
How about this
One flew over the cuckoos nest should be on the top of everyone's list
of kid's books.br / In fact, it is
even more important than Joe Joe the Big ol' cornflake. br /
style sheet
br {display:inline; width:2em;}
Ted,
This doesn't work, at least
too true paul
forgot about those nasty little buggers :o)
oh well
R :o)
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From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:55 AM
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At 03:31 PM 2/9/2005, Richard
Apologies for being so late on this (been rather busy at work). The
double-space after a full-stop (period) thing is simply a notational
convention that sprang out of the typing pools of the 1950s. It has nothing
to do at all with grammar, and is in fact actively discouraged as practise
in the
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To: web standards group
Subject: [WSG] double space after period
Forgive me if this doesn't specifically relate to standards,
but perhaps
it does.
I'm simply wondering about the
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Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
I couldn't think of any way to do it in css. The only way would be
nbsp;nbsp; , but that's fairly annoying.
AFAIK, the all the non-markup specific entities (ie: the ones that
aren't: quot;, amp;, lt;, gt;) have been depreciated, if not
removed, from
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From: john [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 23 January 2005 9:31 PM
To: web standards group
Subject: [WSG] double space after period
Forgive me if this
A double space after a period has nothing to do with grammar AFAIK, it
is a convention that comes from typewriter (and fixed width font) days.
Apparently the convention comes about because it makes it easier to
distinguish the end of a sentence, both from the preceding sentence and
from
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:30:51 +, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Forgive me if this doesn't specifically relate to standards, but perhaps
it does.
I'd file it under best practices myself.
I'm simply wondering about the grammatically-correct double space after
a period. For years, it's
David R wrote:
I do have a relevant question relating to this problem: Is there any
advantage in word-wrapping markup'd paragraphs?
The most important situation in which word-wrapping is useful is with
justified text. Good word-wrapping prevents awkward word spacing in such
text, rendering it
How about using en/em-space instead of regular space?
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/chars/spaces.html
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I'm simply wondering about the grammatically-correct double space after
a period. For years, it's never mattered to me, but I have a client who
is a stickler for this sort of thing, and he asked if I could please add
the extra spaces in his site.
It may or may not be grammatically correct,
Thank you for all your replies to this. My client has a PhD in
Linguistics, and asked that I do this. I have since emailed him, citing
many of your emails, and he changed his mind.
Thanks again!
~john
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