Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-23 Thread Claude Frantz
On 11/23/19 5:21 AM, Jim Brown wrote: I see FT8 and DXpedition mode to be the greatest thing to happen to the little pistol station since I learned CW 60 years ago. That is exactly my opinion, too. Claude (DJ0OT) ___ wsjt-devel mailing list

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread jarmo
Fri, 22 Nov 2019 20:21:47 -0800 Jim Brown kirjoitti: > On 11/22/2019 2:33 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: > > and FOX mode is playing a big part in the success of that. > > I see FT8 and DXpedition mode to be the greatest thing to happen to > the little pistol station since I learned CW 60 years ago.

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/22/2019 2:33 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: and FOX mode is playing a big part in the success of that. I see FT8 and DXpedition mode to be the greatest thing to happen to the little pistol station since I learned CW 60 years ago. 73, Jim K9YC ___

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Frantz
On 11/19/19 at 8:01 AM, iztok.s...@telekom.si (Iztok Saje) wrote: Hi! On band activity: how about ALL.TXT? On linux: tail -f ALL.TXT |grep -v A35JT would give nice idea what is going on the band segment. I assume ALL.TXT works in Fox mode, and there are similar commands in Windows as well.

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Grant VK5GR
: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator Grant -- You asked me to take our exchanges off-list, but then you seem to have reverted to the list. So for the record, I'll respond here. As I explained to you off-list, the ALL.TXT file in WSJT-X 2.1.0 provides the information you asked

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Joe Taylor
Grant -- You asked me to take our exchanges off-list, but then you seem to have reverted to the list. So for the record, I'll respond here. As I explained to you off-list, the ALL.TXT file in WSJT-X 2.1.0 provides the information you asked for, in real time. Perhaps we can furnish this

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-22 Thread Reino Talarmo
Hi Grant, I assume that the timestamps in the ALL.TXT are taken from the slot time counter at the moment, when software has performed its reception decoding. If the decoding happens to take place after the start of the next transmission, then the time indicated is wrong. That may or may not

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Grant Willis
Steve, Sorry that is my mistake. It was an incorrect memory based on when I was reviewing the ALL.TXT file trying to find broken log records when we got home after A35JT. (I had discovered that ALL.TXT didnt store the TX strings from the FOX transmissions - instead it only stored one string and

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Gary McDuffie
> On Nov 21, 2019, at 16:55, Carl Buehler wrote: > > How long does it take, after making the request, to be taken off this list? > K9ZA Should be immediate right after you REMOVE YOURSELF. Gary ___ wsjt-devel mailing list

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Carl Buehler
How long does it take, after making the request, to be taken off this list? K9ZA On Tue, Nov 19, 2019, 07:22 Iztok Saje wrote: > Hi! > > On band activity: how about ALL.TXT? > > On linux: > tail -f ALL.TXT |grep -v A35JT > > would give nice idea what is going on the band segment. > I assume

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Steven Franke via wsjt-devel
Grant, > On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: > > Folks, > > ALL.TXT is not populated when in FOX mode in 2.1.0 - I checked the logs from > A35JT. Only when we were in standard mode was it being updated. I am not able to reproduce this. I have just tested v2.1.0 here on Linux and

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Grant VK5GR
November 2019 3:55 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator Hi! Let wsjtx dev team focus on hard stuff, and use support programs for the rest. While proposed tail -f can do the job, I think it is relatively easy to hack small program

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-21 Thread Iztok Saje
Hi! Let wsjtx dev team focus on hard stuff, and use support programs for the rest. While proposed tail -f can do the job, I think it is relatively easy to hack small program that reads last lines in ALL.TXT every 15 seconds and make small screen supporting Fox operation. Is frequency clean?

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread Grant VK5GR
George, Allow me to answer your questions in line: | Aren’t major efforts (those we expect to use F/H) frequencies pre-coordinated and published in advance of the trip? You would like to think so. In practice despite trying to do just that the larger expeditions just took the

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread George J Molnar
A couple recent comments on Fox/Hound mode have me perplexed. Aren’t major efforts (those we expect to use F/H) frequencies pre-coordinated and published in advance of the trip? Do holiday-style trips really need F/H? Major dxpeditions should never operate in the standard watering holes,

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread George J Molnar
Please forgive what may be ridiculous questions. Some are for foxes, others for hounds. Fox/Hound operation should only be carried out away from the main “watering holes,” right? For expeditions, isn’t it standard practice to coordinate with other expeditions before leaving home to ensure

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread David Gilbert
I don't use Fox/Hound, of course, but it seems to me that VK5GR's request when using it is legitimate.  I wouldn't have said anything at all if it weren't for the dev reply that cited a lack of screen real estate as the reason for not addressing it. It's not bitching to point out the

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread Joe Taylor
Grant -- On 11/19/2019 4:36 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: We tested a lot of the station before we left - as much functionality and hardware as we could in fact. However in the case of FOX mode, that is something that is extremely difficult to test ... Actually, the disabling of *Tx Enable* after

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread Tom Ramberg via wsjt-devel
Fred, I see no bitching here, just friendy questions and mostly very polite answers. 73 de Tom OH6VDA (occasionally semi-rare JW6VDA) Sendt fra min iPad Air 2 > 20. nov. 2019 kl. 13:34 skrev Fred Price : > >  > Ya know if you so much want this why not open your computer and reprogram the >

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-20 Thread Fred Price
Ya know if you so much want this why not open your computer and reprogram the interface yourself? What's it take 30 seconds to open settings or change a config? Is the DX going to disappear in that time? I guess everyone forgot about when the NA contest mode had a check box on the GUI. So many

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-19 Thread Tom Melvin
Dave There is not a lot of space under the 'Auto Seq' box - I will agree date and time could be smaller - but disagree as to the DX Call/Grid - they need to be easily seen/entered for distance/Bearing - my eyes are not quite what the were a few years back and with all the different

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-19 Thread David Gilbert
If anyone was seriously concerned about real estate usage in the WSJT-X user window there wouldn't be all that wasted space in the lower left corner for any of the modes.  The Frequency display doesn't need to be anywhere near that large, DX Call and DX Grid is mostly superfluous, the size

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-19 Thread Grant VK5GR
, 20 November 2019 1:51 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request Hi Grant, On 11/18/2019 4:20 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: > Thanks for the reply - I am really pleased that the RR73 problem is in fact > a bug. I can t

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-19 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Grant, On 11/18/2019 4:20 PM, Grant VK5GR wrote: Thanks for the reply - I am really pleased that the RR73 problem is in fact a bug. I can tell you that it is driving FOX operators nuts on expeditions. I guess we should have spoken up sooner. Memo to file: It's ALWAYS best to make

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator

2019-11-19 Thread Iztok Saje
Hi! On band activity: how about ALL.TXT? On linux: tail -f ALL.TXT |grep -v A35JT would give nice idea what is going on the band segment. I assume ALL.TXT works in Fox mode, and there are similar commands in Windows as well. Best 73, gd DX Iztok, S52D 18. nov. 2019 kl. 19:18 skrev Joe

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-18 Thread Grant VK5GR
Regards, Grant VK5GR -Original Message- From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princeton.edu] Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 3:48 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request Hi Grant and all, Thanks for reporti

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-18 Thread Tom Ramberg via wsjt-devel
Hello Joe, thanks for the info. Awaiting 2.1.1 then! 73 de Tom, sporadically JW6VDA Sendt fra min iPhone > 18. nov. 2019 kl. 19:18 skrev Joe Taylor : > > Hi Grant and all, > > Thanks for reporting the bug in WSJT-X v2.1.0 that causes *Tx Enable* to be > turned off when Fox sends RR73. We

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-18 Thread Joe Taylor
Hi Grant and all, Thanks for reporting the bug in WSJT-X v2.1.0 that causes *Tx Enable* to be turned off when Fox sends RR73. We knew about this issue and corrected it several months ago, back in August, but -- having received no complaints from users -- we have been waiting to issue a

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-18 Thread Neil Zampella
und up some willing test volunteers across VK and work with you on the testing if that would help. Regards Grant VK5GR *From:*Dave Slotter, W3DJS [mailto:slotter+w3...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, 18 November 2019 6:34 AM *To:* WSJT software development *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Houn

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-18 Thread Bill Barrett
otter+w3...@gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* Monday, 18 November 2019 6:34 AM > *To:* WSJT software development > *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator > enhancement request > > > > I agree that these are reasonable requests. If Bill et al cannot find time

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-18 Thread David Tiller
esting if that would help. Regards Grant VK5GR From: Dave Slotter, W3DJS [mailto:slotter+w3...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 6:34 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request I agree that these are reasonable re

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement

2019-11-18 Thread Tom Ramberg via wsjt-devel
Frode, I had to re-read your Norwegian ranslation of the maual after reading your mail, so that's the reason for replying late. In that manual, I cannot see that the need for enabling TX after every RR73 is mentioned at all. Please tell me if there is a point here that I have overlooked. I

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-18 Thread Grant VK5GR
Grant VK5GR From: Dave Slotter, W3DJS [mailto:slotter+w3...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 6:34 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request I agree that these are reasonable requests. If Bill et al

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement

2019-11-18 Thread Grant VK5GR
[mailto:frodeigla...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 18 November 2019 9:10 PM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement As I read Rich's message in digest format, a response may already be given, so my apologies if I repeat

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement

2019-11-18 Thread Frode Igland
As I read Rich's message in digest format, a response may already be given, so my apologies if I repeat a previous reply. It seems like the check box under Settings - General - "Disable Tx after sending 73" repeatedly creates some confusion. The mouse-over help text describes exactly what

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement

2019-11-17 Thread Rich Zwirko - K1HTV
Grant, By any chance could the problem described have been caused because under Settings, General tab you had the "Disable Tx after sending 73' check box checked? I don't know if this might be bypassed in the Fox mode. If not, it should be disabled automatically when the Fox mode is used. 73,

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-17 Thread Dave Slotter, W3DJS
I agree that these are reasonable requests. If Bill et al cannot find time to address, as a software engineer who has actually modified the WSJT-X code to fix an Enable button defect, I'd be willing to fix these unwanted Fox mode behaviors. BUT... (There's always a but, isn't there?) I'd need 2-3

Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-17 Thread Tom Ramberg via wsjt-devel
For what it’s worth: I support Grant’s request, specially regarding the required need to hit “enable tx” almost constantly. Tom JW6VDA Sendt fra min iPhone > 17. nov. 2019 kl. 06:30 skrev Grant VK5GR : > > Folks, > > Having returned home a few weeks ago from conducting the A35JT

[wsjt-devel] FT8 Fox and Hound Mode - FOX Mode Operator enhancement request

2019-11-16 Thread Grant VK5GR
Folks, Having returned home a few weeks ago from conducting the A35JT DXpedition to the south Pacific, there are a number of things in FT8 fox mode that I feel need urgent attention for future expeditions. Some of these are on the critical list and some are workflow and control things that I