Re: [wsjt-devel] RTTY

2020-01-14 Thread Neil Zampella
The only reason you'd add RTTY to WSJT-X is if there were some way to improve it for weak signal work, the program and its protocols were not designed for any other reason.   The other reason is one you overlooked in Dave's post: Quote: 3. Each candidate development task has an "opportunity

Re: [wsjt-devel] RTTY

2020-01-14 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Dwayne Sinclair 2020-01-14 <1a7fafe0-f3f3-45ff-8ec9-a0f3e1f60...@gmail.com> > I would like to propose adding RTTY to WSJT-X for two reasons 1. As a means > to reframe the DXCC discussion away from FT8 itself to “it’s just a UI for > managing QSO’s”, and 2. I believe WSJT-X would be a great

Re: [wsjt-devel] RTTY

2020-01-14 Thread David Gilbert
What would that be?  FT8/FT4 uses a better detection scheme than RTTY precisely because of the constraints that FT8/FT4 require. Those constraints are what allow the better decoding ... there is no "magic" involved here.  If you lock the signal to predetermined time windows, use 8 tones

Re: [wsjt-devel] RTTY

2020-01-14 Thread Frank Kirschner
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:23 PM Dave AA6YQ wrote: > 1. RTTY is a well-defined protocol; the result of any modifications to > this protocol would not be RTTY. > > > I don't understand. No one suggested modifying RTTY, just using a better discrimination technique on the receive end. 73, Frank

Re: [wsjt-devel] RTTY

2020-01-14 Thread Dave AA6YQ
1. RTTY is a well-defined protocol; the result of any modifications to this protocol would not be RTTY. 2. Significant work has been done to improve RTTY decoding; see https://www.rttycontesting.com/downloads/2tone/ (David G3YYD) http://www.dxatlas.com/Gritty/ (Alex VE3NEA) Some digital mode

Re: [wsjt-devel] RTTY

2020-01-14 Thread Frank Kirschner
I'm not suggesting changing the RTTY FSK standard. I'm suggesting a better detection scheme for the existing RTTY standard. 73, Frank KF6E On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 7:54 PM David Gilbert wrote: > > I'm not so sure it would be that easy. All of the WSJT-X modes require > some pretty rigid rules,

Re: [wsjt-devel] RTTY

2020-01-14 Thread David Gilbert
I'm not so sure it would be that easy.  All of the WSJT-X modes require some pretty rigid rules, not the least of which is fixed time frames closely locked to the same reference.  They also require some pretty narrowly constrained message formats.  I really doubt that very many current RTTY

Re: [wsjt-devel] RTTY

2020-01-14 Thread Frank Kirschner
Dwayne, That's what I suggested some time ago. Not only would it put all the digital modes I use together in one program, but it would provide an opportunity to implement a really good RTTY detection algorithm. Some of the current programs require a very high S/N, and with the signal processing

[wsjt-devel] RTTY

2020-01-14 Thread Dwayne Sinclair
Hey all, My background is IT infrastructure with some code development and I although I have been active in the amateur radio community for less than a year, given my software, IT infrastructure background, and electronics background I have been assisting my local amateur radio community in

[wsjt-devel] Configuration (old thread) AKA XMLRPC

2020-01-14 Thread Ken
I read the email thread from a while back with interest. Let me add my to cents (or less). A XMLRPC interface like FLDIGI and FLRIG uses is implemented easily. And would allow other related applications (like loggers) to interface with WSJT-X. I am especially interested in that I am writing a