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[wsjt-devel] Simple recommendation

2018-05-06 Thread Gene Marsh

For readability in the Band Activity pane:

Change the separator for the next time segment:

Now:
“——“

Please change to:

“==“


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Re: [wsjt-devel] How much operating time before rebooting your computer

2018-04-27 Thread Gene Marsh

I have seen the “desensitized” as well, BUT, only for my older Win7 + 2GHz 
1.5GB Pentium Mobile laptop (ca 2005). It is only when many signals are present 
AND the program was running for +4hr.  Sometimes the decode takes 4-5 seconds. 

I only run WSJT-X, Dimension4, Chrome (3 tabs), no antivirus. When the program 
restarts, it is fast again. I’m thinking it is a Win7 memory or processor 
allocation issue. 

No problem for the Win10 i7 8GB laptop. 

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> On Apr 26, 2018, at 11:57 PM, harold deitz via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ray,
> 
> I have seen the same thing as N0AN mentioned.  Letting Win10 update solves 
> the problem (if you can call it a problem).  I call it housekeeping.
> 
> Hal - W5GHZ
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> On ‎Thursday‎, ‎April‎ ‎26‎, ‎2018‎ ‎11‎:‎28‎:‎36‎ ‎PM‎ ‎GMT, Hasan al-Basri 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have observed this issue when win10 is waiting to update, but I haven't 
> been notified that an update is pending. 
> 
> I discovered this when I noticed My 2nd wsjt-x machine was only decoding 
> about one half the stations that my other machine was. When I told the 2nd ma 
> Hine to restart, it immediately notified me that it was updating during the 
> reboot and not to turn the machine off.
> 
> I have seen this scenario present itself 3 times now, over a three month 
> period. 
> 
> In each case the 2nd computer began decoding exactly as the first.
> 
> Typically I have wsjt-x running on both computers 24/7
> 
> 73, N0AN 
> 
> 
> Hasan
> 
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018, 5:53 PM Ray Jacobs  wrote:
> I left WSJT running on my computer for several hours, (not on purpose) but 
> found out the program lost sensitivy during that time. 
> My question is after a couple hours should you shut down the program and 
> reboot your Computer?
> Ray KA3PCX
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Field day mods?

2018-05-11 Thread Gene Marsh

Neil, 

That’s all true.  But, FD is the best exposure to ham radio community for one 
day for all year long - all over the world.  FD makes more contacts in one day 
than any contest or DXExpedition. 

My ‘suggestions’ is only that.  Something to cogitate. 

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> On May 11, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Neil Zampella <ne...@techie.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5/11/2018 12:06 PM, Gene Marsh wrote:
>> Neil (and all),
>> 
>> Below
>> 
>> 73 de W8NET Gene
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>> 
>> On May 10, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Neil Zampella <ne...@techie.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> A number of things:
>>> 
>>> 1.  you can use the CQ FD XXX Grid as the call,
>> 
>> Doesn’t have to be the ‘CQ’ prefix:
>> 
>> FD W1XYZ 3AEMA
>> 
>> And, you don’t have to put the grid
>> 
> 
> If you do it the way I suggest, the other station can still do a auto 
> sequence response.Your line does not allow for someone to double click as 
> the system will not recognize it as a proper CQ call.  The grid is part 
> of the auto sequence, plus counts for the other ARRL contest going on .. Grid 
> Chase.
> 
>> 
>>> 2.  How are you going to tell people to NOT use auto sequence
>> 
>> Maybe you could turn it automatically OFF when the FD option is ON.  Same as 
>> Fox and Hound sets options. 
> 
> Field day occurs once a year, DXPeditions happen every month, in some months, 
> almost every week.Changing the program to add another set of requirements 
> for a once a year event that's mainly a US event is not worth the time, nor 
> the time trying to reply to issues being raised by the inadvertent setting of 
> the 'option'.
> 
> 
>> 
>>> 3.  Trash the 'tu cq fd' and just include the required info in the last 
>>> message and include a 73.
>>> 
>>> This may allow users who don't know about turning off auto sequence to 
>>> actually work someone on FD.
>>> 
>>> Neil, KN3ILZ
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 5/10/2018 2:32 PM, Bobby Chandler wrote:
>>>> What would be wrong with using these macros:
>>>> 
>>>> CQ FD N4AU
>>>> @ 1d AL
>>>> @ TU CQ FD
>>>> 
>>>> Run with Auto SEQ off.
>>>> 
>>>> Bobby/N4AU
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> bob...@bellsouth.net
>>>> n...@arrl.net
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Field day mods?

2018-05-11 Thread Gene Marsh

Neil (and all),

Below

73 de W8NET Gene
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> On May 10, 2018, at 6:54 PM, Neil Zampella  wrote:
> 
> A number of things:
> 
> 1.  you can use the CQ FD XXX Grid as the call,

Doesn’t have to be the ‘CQ’ prefix:

FD W1XYZ 3AEMA

And, you don’t have to put the grid. 

> 2.  How are you going to tell people to NOT use auto sequence

Maybe you could turn it automatically OFF when the FD option is ON.  Same as 
Fox and Hound sets options. 

> 3.  Trash the 'tu cq fd' and just include the required info in the last 
> message and include a 73.
> 
> This may allow users who don't know about turning off auto sequence to 
> actually work someone on FD.
> 
> Neil, KN3ILZ
> 
> 
>> On 5/10/2018 2:32 PM, Bobby Chandler wrote:
>> What would be wrong with using these macros:
>> 
>> CQ FD N4AU
>> @ 1d AL
>> @ TU CQ FD
>> 
>> Run with Auto SEQ off.
>> 
>> Bobby/N4AU
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> bob...@bellsouth.net
>> n...@arrl.net
>> 
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] CQ x 3

2018-05-08 Thread Gene Marsh

Come to think about it  it was only on 20m and 17m, not 40m or 80m.  I have 
not worked the higher bands. 

Maybe the “ringing” or “images” have a tendency for higher frequencies?  Or, 
the software has a tendency to do that at higher frequencies?  H

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> On May 8, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Ryan Tourge <ryan.tou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Last night 6M and 10M were open from my QTH in Upstate NY to Florida. Most 
> signals were well over 0dB. I had a heck of time with exactly what you 
> showed. It was a delicate balancing act between gating back the strong 
> signals to avoid the ringing but letting enough through to decode the weak 
> signals. You can usually find a happy medium. 
> 
>> On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 7:58 AM, Gene Marsh <w8...@me.com> wrote:
>> Ok Ryan.  I will turn down the rf gain 20% and check it again.  Thanks for 
>> the idea. 
>> 
>> 73 de W8NET Gene
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>> 
>>> On May 8, 2018, at 7:36 AM, Ryan Tourge <ryan.tou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> His +5 signal is ringing producing those "harmonics." If you turn the rf 
>>> gain down a bit it will stop. 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Gene Marsh <w8...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> H
>>>> 
>>>> - that was the first time for that spacing
>>>> - this was the first time for my new Signlink USB (it includes sound 
>>>> card).  The previous times (~20), it was my laptop sound card (SoundMAX).
>>>> 
>>>> 73 de W8NET Gene
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>>>> 
>>>>> On May 4, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Joe <n...@mwt.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bad audio drive?
>>>>> If you do the math they are separated by 55/56 hz,
>>>>> That would be my guess.
>>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>>> Idle Tyme
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>>>>>> On 5/4/2018 7:34 AM, Gene Marsh wrote:
>>>>>> No one responded to my post about multiple CQ.  I have attached a pic of 
>>>>>> a sample.  This one is somewhat different, as the frequencies are more 
>>>>>> spread out, and the signal reports are way different. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Comments?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 73 de W8NET Gene
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>>>>>> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] CQ x 3

2018-05-08 Thread Gene Marsh

Ok Ryan.  I will turn down the rf gain 20% and check it again.  Thanks for the 
idea. 

73 de W8NET Gene
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> On May 8, 2018, at 7:36 AM, Ryan Tourge <ryan.tou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> His +5 signal is ringing producing those "harmonics." If you turn the rf gain 
> down a bit it will stop. 
> 
>> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Gene Marsh <w8...@me.com> wrote:
>> H
>> 
>> - that was the first time for that spacing
>> - this was the first time for my new Signlink USB (it includes sound card).  
>> The previous times (~20), it was my laptop sound card (SoundMAX).
>> 
>> 73 de W8NET Gene
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>> Member - Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS)
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>> 
>>> On May 4, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Joe <n...@mwt.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bad audio drive?
>>> If you do the math they are separated by 55/56 hz,
>>> That would be my guess.
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> 
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>> On 5/4/2018 7:34 AM, Gene Marsh wrote:
>>>> No one responded to my post about multiple CQ.  I have attached a pic of a 
>>>> sample.  This one is somewhat different, as the frequencies are more 
>>>> spread out, and the signal reports are way different. 
>>>> 
>>>> Comments?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 73 de W8NET Gene
>>>> 3905 Century Club Master #47
>>>> Member - Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS)
>>>> ARRL A-1 Op
>>>> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Fwd: Re: [wsjtgroup] DX Mode Test Bug Report

2018-05-08 Thread Gene Marsh

Ok...

So, at 153115 I sent my last call, sent to the Fox at 153130.  2.5min later (or 
less), the Fox queued me for the “available to call” list.  Then, one of 2 
scenarios played out: 1) I have a missing Fox attempt at 153500; or 2) I have a 
missing Fox attempt at 153630.  And, the delay on the “to be called” list was  
1) 1:30; or 2) 2:30. 
 
I’m not trying to be a pain. I’m only trying to thoroughly understand the 
process.  I’m an EE and think logically (sometimes!).

Thank you for responding. 

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> On May 8, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:
> 
> Gene --
> 
>> On 5/8/2018 1:25 PM, Gene Marsh W8NET wrote:
>> 
>> I understand.   But, look closely at this pic. The last time I called the 
>> Fox was at 153115.  The Fox responded at 153530.  The Fox had my call in 
>> queue for 4:15?
> 
> In Fox mode WSJT-X maintains several queues.
> 
> A specified Hound callsign stays in Fox's "available to be selected" list for 
> up to 2.5 minutes after the most recent decode of that Hound.
> 
> When the Fox operator selects a Hound call is goes into a "to-be-called" 
> queue, a FIFO list.  When it reaches the top and a slot is available, it will 
> be sent a report.  The time spent waiting can be some minutes, and depends on 
> many factors: NSlots, the number of calls in the FIFO, and the number of 
> repeats necessary for QSOs already in progress.
> 
> Fox considers a potential QSO to have started when he first calls a 
> particular Hound.  That potential QSO "times out" and is aborted if more than 
> 3 minutes elapses without receiving "R+rpt" and sending RR73.
> 
>-- Joe, K1JT
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Re: [wsjt-devel] CQ x 3

2018-05-04 Thread Gene Marsh

H

- that was the first time for that spacing
- this was the first time for my new Signlink USB (it includes sound card).  
The previous times (~20), it was my laptop sound card (SoundMAX).

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> On May 4, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Joe <n...@mwt.net> wrote:
> 
> Bad audio drive?
> If you do the math they are separated by 55/56 hz,
> That would be my guess.
> Joe WB9SBD
> 
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 5/4/2018 7:34 AM, Gene Marsh wrote:
>> No one responded to my post about multiple CQ.  I have attached a pic of a 
>> sample.  This one is somewhat different, as the frequencies are more spread 
>> out, and the signal reports are way different. 
>> 
>> Comments?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73 de W8NET Gene
>> 3905 Century Club Master #47
>> Member - Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS)
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>> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Audio issue(s) with Win10 April 2018 update

2018-05-25 Thread Gene Marsh

NEVER install DriverToolKit!!!

73 de W8NET Gene
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> On May 24, 2018, at 11:26 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Get rid of drivertoolkit...totally unnecessary
> 
> Try uninstalling the driver (remove file if you option is there) and reboot 
> to let it reinstall.
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, May 24, 2018, 9:08:48 PM CDT, John L. Broughton 
> <2silverhon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I just ran into this problem when my Windows 10 updated today.
> 
> When I start WSJT-X, I get the error 'Error in Sound input' An error 
> opening the audio input device has occurred.'
> 
> When I troubleshoot the USB Audio CODEC driver, it results in a message 
> 'no jack information available.'
> 
> When I run the DRIVERTOOLKIT, it says the driver is up to date. I tried 
> a backup and restore on the driver and that did not help.
> 
> I realize this is not a WSJT-X issue, but am hoping someone here has had 
> this problem and figured out a way to fix the driver problem.
> 
> 73,
> 
> John, WB9VGJ
> 
> John L. Broughton
> www.wb9vgj.us
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> 2silverhon...@gmail.com
> 
> On 5/24/2018 3:34 AM, Barry Smith wrote:
> > All I see is that you can delay the install. I'm lucky that I have 2
> > PCs and I can see what happens with one before I update the other.
> >
> > I did update the PC that runs WSJT-X and I did have to change the
> > settings/privacy/microphone to allow use of the microphone - even
> > though I'm using a device (cat control, audio in and out) that uses
> > USB.
> >
> > Barry
> > G4IAT
> >
> > In message  > mail.com>
> >Andras Bato  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Barry,
> >> I've done this:
> >> Any comment?
> >> GL de HA6NN
> >> Andras
> >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:19 PM, Barry Smith  wrote:
> >>> In message <96609faa-afc1-4e9d-900d-504291749...@bellsouth.net>
> >>>Dave Crockett  wrote:
> >>>
>  Yeah, I kinda think it was a drivers issue, too.  If nothing else, my
>  experience should be considered a  heads-up� to anyone having a
>  similar issue in Win10.  That option to •revert to a previous version
>  of Windows� in Win10 has a pretty short window of opportunity and why
>  I didn�t spend longer trying to noodle it out.
>  Tnx all!
>  73,
>  Dave WB4DFW (EM84š)
> >>> I had an issue with my weather satellite software (WxtoImg) which
> >>> refused to work after to W10 update. I noticed that the HdAudio driver
> >>> had been updated so suspected that, but it turned out to be
> >>> Settings/Privacy/Microphone (even though I use line in). It was set to
> >>> off. Setting it to on, but setting the individual apps listed, to off
> >>> (WxtoImg wasn't in the list), cured the problem.
> >>>
> >>> That's one one PC. The other PC, which I run WSJT-X on, hasn't been
> >>> updated yet, so don't know whether something similar might apply to
> >>> that.
> >>>
> >>> Barry
> >>> G4IAT
> 
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[wsjt-devel] Field Day mod

2018-06-14 Thread Gene Marsh

Joe (and the group),

Jim Wilson, AC8NT, suggested a Field Day mod was bandied about several months 
ago. Jim says he knows you and worked on some code for you.  Jim is the 
president of our local club (PCARS).  Can you suggest an article/doc/link/etc 
for the mod? Or, a different forum?

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[wsjt-devel] Field Day mod

2018-06-14 Thread Gene Marsh

Joe (and the group),

Jim Wilson, AC8NT, suggested a Field Day mod was bandied about several months 
ago. Jim says he knows you and worked on some code for you.  Jim is the 
president of our local club (PCARS).  Can you suggest an article/doc/link/etc 
for the mod? Or, a different forum?

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Re: [wsjt-devel] r8603 power at qso start

2018-04-05 Thread Gene Marsh

WSJT-X or your sound card?  

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> On Apr 5, 2018, at 11:37 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> I captured the output from WSJT-X via the VoiceMeter Banana port to my SDR 
> (ANAN 100).
> So it's an exact digital copy of what WSJT-X is producing.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018, 6:11:58 PM CDT, Bill Somerville 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 05/04/2018 23:43, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>> I found that this is related to the Tx delay settings.
>> 
>> The lower the Tx delay setting (< 0.2) the more max amplitude at the  
>> beginning of the audio.
>> 
>> At 0.2 there's just a small portion but this may help explain why many 
>> people have RF problems when Tx starts.
>> 
>> 
>> de Mike W9MDB
>> 
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> what are we looking at here, how did you capture the audio you showed a plot 
> of?
> 
> 73
> Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

2018-04-07 Thread Gene Marsh

Interesting

I could not work them. Zero propagation in the east coast.  Weak in the west.  
However

Signals from W7/KH7Z were:

- if only one signal (i.e. CQ), he was -21 to -18

- if 3-5 signals, all signals were between -12 to -08. 

Contrary to logic. Maybe, the close proximity to the 3-5 signals have an 
additive effect on 1) the signal in the air , and/or 2) the signal in the 
software?

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> On Apr 7, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Saku  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here in KP01 / OCF dipole: W7/KH7Z , if 1 carrier, is loud abt -8dB, but 5 
> carriers -19 .. -22dB and mostly useless (gets rolled by qsb/qrm).
> 
> -- 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Type 2 compound callsigns support

2018-04-12 Thread Gene Marsh

Igor,

Almost all countries use a ‘prepend’ designation:

- DV2/W8NET, when I’m in the Philippines 

- VE3/W8NET, when I’m in Canada 

But, if I’m in a another area of the USA:

- W8NET/M

- W8NET/MM

- W8NET/7

Your example is:
- K1ABC/VE1
... doesn’t conform. 

Better:
- VE1/K1ABC

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> On Apr 12, 2018, at 6:42 AM, Игорь Ч via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> .
> It is either lack of code or just bad example in the documentation:
> "QSOs involving Type 2 compound callsigns might look like either of the 
> following sequences:
> 
> CQ K1ABC/VE1 FN75"
> where country is not being recognized properly for this callsign in WSJT-X 
> 1.9-rc3:
> .
> 102200 21 0.0 970 ~ CQ K1ABC/VE1 FN75  !U.S.A.
> .
> As it is up to local authorities to grant a licence, probably some extended 
> support is required in the code to recognize country properly for type 2 
> compound callsigns.
> .
> 73 Igor UA3DJY
> 
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

2018-04-07 Thread Gene Marsh

Joe and the group:

First, no propagation in northeast OH for the first test. Bummer. 

Second, maybe I’m confused (as usual):  
-  I thought signals below 1000Hz are ignored?  Many are. Some are not. 
-  I thought the Hounds were expected to transmit above 1000Hz and the Fox 
would ignore below?

See the attached picture. 

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> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode* 
> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.  You are cordially invited to 
> participate -- the more participants, the better!
> 
> Our main goal is to simulate pileups in which many "Hounds" call and attempt 
> to work a desirable rare DX station, the "Fox".  The test will help us to 
> improve our software so as to maximize the practical QSO rate in such 
> situations.  We hope you can be there and try to work both Foxes.
> 
> Here's the detailed schedule:
> 
> Date  UTC   FrequencyFox Callsign  Operator
> ---
> April 7  1400   14.105 MHzW1/KH7Z   N1DG
> April 7  1500   14.105W7/KH7Z   AA7A
> 
> All participating stations must use program version WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3. If you 
> don't yet have it, download links are available near the bottom of the page 
> here:
> https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
> 
> [If you are compiling the program for yourself, be sure to use code revision 
> r8576 or later, taken from the repository's WSJT-X development branch.  All 
> revisions since r8576 will perform identically in FT8 DXpedition Mode.]
> 
> Detailed instructions for both Fox and Hound are posted here:
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf
> Some details in these instructions have changed, so be sure to read and 
> follow the latest instructions carefully!  Don't just try to wing it.
> 
> As you will know after reading the instructions, Fox can conduct up to 5 QSOs 
> simultaneously, using frequency slots spaced by 60 Hz.  Fox transmissions 
> always occur in the frequency range 300-900 Hz above dial frequency.
> 
> If you (as a Hound) can legitimately use more than one callsign -- your 
> spouse's call, club call, etc. -- feel free to work each Fox multiple times.  
> No dupe QSOs with the same call, though.
> 
> Real-time liaison will be available on the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat page 
> (PJB), https://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalkB .  Everyone should 
> monitor this page for possible last-minute announcements of a frequency 
> change, etc.  To ensure that announcements from Fox stations are easily 
> visible, Hounds should monitor PJB but not post messages there during the 
> test.
> 
> The deepest pileups will help us tune the final-release software version for 
> optimum performance on both Fox and Hound sides.  After the test, please post 
> any comments you feel will be helpful to one of our two email forums, 
> wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com or wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net .  You will 
> need to be subscribed to the list in order to post there.
> 
> We sincerely hope you can join us for this test, and that you will work both 
> Foxes!
> 
>-- 73, Joe, K1JT (for the WSJT Development Group)
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

2018-04-07 Thread Gene Marsh

BTW, I checked “Rx All Freqs” AFTER I made the screen cap. 

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> On Apr 7, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Gene Marsh <w8...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Joe and the group:
> 
> First, no propagation in northeast OH for the first test. Bummer. 
> 
> Second, maybe I’m confused (as usual):  
> -  I thought signals below 1000Hz are ignored?  Many are. Some are not. 
> -  I thought the Hounds were expected to transmit above 1000Hz and the Fox 
> would ignore below?
> 
> See the attached picture. 
> 
> 73 de W8NET Gene
> 3905 Century Club Master #47
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode* 
>> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.  You are cordially invited 
>> to participate -- the more participants, the better!
>> 
>> Our main goal is to simulate pileups in which many "Hounds" call and attempt 
>> to work a desirable rare DX station, the "Fox".  The test will help us to 
>> improve our software so as to maximize the practical QSO rate in such 
>> situations.  We hope you can be there and try to work both Foxes.
>> 
>> Here's the detailed schedule:
>> 
>> Date  UTC   FrequencyFox Callsign  Operator
>> ---
>> April 7  1400   14.105 MHzW1/KH7Z   N1DG
>> April 7  1500   14.105W7/KH7Z   AA7A
>> 
>> All participating stations must use program version WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3. If 
>> you don't yet have it, download links are available near the bottom of the 
>> page here:
>> https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
>> 
>> [If you are compiling the program for yourself, be sure to use code revision 
>> r8576 or later, taken from the repository's WSJT-X development branch.  All 
>> revisions since r8576 will perform identically in FT8 DXpedition Mode.]
>> 
>> Detailed instructions for both Fox and Hound are posted here:
>> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf
>> Some details in these instructions have changed, so be sure to read and 
>> follow the latest instructions carefully!  Don't just try to wing it.
>> 
>> As you will know after reading the instructions, Fox can conduct up to 5 
>> QSOs simultaneously, using frequency slots spaced by 60 Hz.  Fox 
>> transmissions always occur in the frequency range 300-900 Hz above dial 
>> frequency.
>> 
>> If you (as a Hound) can legitimately use more than one callsign -- your 
>> spouse's call, club call, etc. -- feel free to work each Fox multiple times. 
>>  No dupe QSOs with the same call, though.
>> 
>> Real-time liaison will be available on the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat page 
>> (PJB), https://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalkB .  Everyone should 
>> monitor this page for possible last-minute announcements of a frequency 
>> change, etc.  To ensure that announcements from Fox stations are easily 
>> visible, Hounds should monitor PJB but not post messages there during the 
>> test.
>> 
>> The deepest pileups will help us tune the final-release software version for 
>> optimum performance on both Fox and Hound sides.  After the test, please 
>> post any comments you feel will be helpful to one of our two email forums, 
>> wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com or wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net .  You will 
>> need to be subscribed to the list in order to post there.
>> 
>> We sincerely hope you can join us for this test, and that you will work both 
>> Foxes!
>> 
>>   -- 73, Joe, K1JT (for the WSJT Development Group)
>> 
>> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Second Public Test of FT8 DXpedition Mode: April 7, 1400-1600 UTC

2018-04-06 Thread Gene Marsh

I second that!  At Portage County Amateur Radio Service (OH), we have MANY new 
hams. Sometimes, the deluge of new information for them is daunting. 

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> On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Earle D Hancock  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
>   As I watch the mail around the development of Expedition mode I am 
> reminded that there are many new HAMs that, like me, are struggling to “catch 
> up” with the guys who have been HAMs for many years. Just here in my club, 
> The Villages ARC, we have trained over 100 new Technicians in the last 3 
> years - some are just now getting an antenna (HOA restrictions).
>   My point is this: once your happy with the software could someone on 
> your team create a step by step guide on operating for rank beginners? 
>   I see FT8 as a solution for a number of converging issues namely: 
> compromised antennas, poor propagation, local noise (my s meter hovers around 
> s-8 - none of it in my QTH) and newly minted HAMs reluctant to make phone 
> contacts due to age and poor hearing (yes that's me too). You have created 
> the right solution at the right time.
> 
> Earle KM4ISN
> 
>> On Apr 5, 2018, at 10:49 AM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I write to remind you of the second public test of *FT8 DXpedition Mode* 
>> scheduled for Saturday, April 7, 1400-1600 UTC.  You are cordially invited 
>> to participate -- the more participants, the better!
>> 
>> Our main goal is to simulate pileups in which many "Hounds" call and attempt 
>> to work a desirable rare DX station, the "Fox".  The test will help us to 
>> improve our software so as to maximize the practical QSO rate in such 
>> situations.  We hope you can be there and try to work both Foxes.
>> 
>> Here's the detailed schedule:
>> 
>> Date  UTC   FrequencyFox Callsign  Operator
>> ---
>> April 7  1400   14.105 MHzW1/KH7Z   N1DG
>> April 7  1500   14.105W7/KH7Z   AA7A
>> 
>> All participating stations must use program version WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3. If 
>> you don't yet have it, download links are available near the bottom of the 
>> page here:
>> https://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html
>> 
>> [If you are compiling the program for yourself, be sure to use code revision 
>> r8576 or later, taken from the repository's WSJT-X development branch.  All 
>> revisions since r8576 will perform identically in FT8 DXpedition Mode.]
>> 
>> Detailed instructions for both Fox and Hound are posted here:
>> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/FT8_DXpedition_Mode.pdf
>> Some details in these instructions have changed, so be sure to read and 
>> follow the latest instructions carefully!  Don't just try to wing it.
>> 
>> As you will know after reading the instructions, Fox can conduct up to 5 
>> QSOs simultaneously, using frequency slots spaced by 60 Hz.  Fox 
>> transmissions always occur in the frequency range 300-900 Hz above dial 
>> frequency.
>> 
>> If you (as a Hound) can legitimately use more than one callsign -- your 
>> spouse's call, club call, etc. -- feel free to work each Fox multiple times. 
>>  No dupe QSOs with the same call, though.
>> 
>> Real-time liaison will be available on the "Ping Jockey Relief" chat page 
>> (PJB), https://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalkB .  Everyone should 
>> monitor this page for possible last-minute announcements of a frequency 
>> change, etc.  To ensure that announcements from Fox stations are easily 
>> visible, Hounds should monitor PJB but not post messages there during the 
>> test.
>> 
>> The deepest pileups will help us tune the final-release software version for 
>> optimum performance on both Fox and Hound sides.  After the test, please 
>> post any comments you feel will be helpful to one of our two email forums, 
>> wsjtgr...@yahoogroups.com or wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net .  You will 
>> need to be subscribed to the list in order to post there.
>> 
>> We sincerely hope you can join us for this test, and that you will work both 
>> Foxes!
>> 
>>  -- 73, Joe, K1JT (for the WSJT Development Group)
>> 
>> 
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[wsjt-devel] 1.90-rc2 issue

2018-03-30 Thread Gene Marsh

First, awesome program. Thank you.

Attached you will see one example the issue. 

Environment:
Win7 Pro Svc Pack 1 - 32bit
Intel Pentuim M 2.00GHz
1.50GB RAM

At first, I thought someone was pranking me.  Then, I saw it BEFORE I had 
transmitted.  In my example, I had not been on for 3 days. 

I work FT8 approximately 10 hours a week, and approximately 10 hours of 
standing by on the program and radio.  In that time, 5-6 instances occur.  50% 
were good call signs, 50% were bogus.  ALL were properly formed and legitimate 
grid coords (but some were in the middle of nowhere).

If you know the issue, please email me!  Maybe I’m going crazy!

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Re: [wsjt-devel] 1.90-rc2 issue

2018-03-30 Thread Gene Marsh

Thank you Bill.  That makes sense. 

I read the manual cover to cover, but I didn’t correlate everything for AP. I 
will read it again, more closely. 

I was a CIO/CSO for many years, specializing in DoD security and encryption.  
I’m fascinated by FT8. 

Thank you and the team for the responses. 

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> On Mar 30, 2018, at 11:36 AM, Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 30/03/2018 15:44, Gene Marsh wrote:
>> At first, I thought someone was pranking me.  Then, I saw it BEFORE I had 
>> transmitted.  In my example, I had not been on for 3 days.
>> 
>> I work FT8 approximately 10 hours a week, and approximately 10 hours of 
>> standing by on the program and radio.  In that time, 5-6 instances occur.  
>> 50% were good call signs, 50% were bogus.  ALL were properly formed and 
>> legitimate grid coords (but some were in the middle of nowhere).
>> 
>> If you know the issue, please email me!  Maybe I’m going crazy!
> 
> Hi Gene,
> 
> you have "Menu->Decode->Enable AP" checked. Please read this section of the 
> WSJT-X User Guide:
> 
> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.8.0.html#_ap_decoding
> 
> A priori decoding assumes parts of the candidate incoming messages using 
> information already known and tries to construct messages containing that 
> information. WSJT-X assumes you are waiting for CQ replies when you are not 
> in a QSO (DX Call cleared) so it assumes your callsign might be part of an 
> incoming message. If it can pull out a plausible message with a valid 
> checksum after making that assumption it will show a decode. It also tags 
> that decode to show it was obtained using AP information by appending a 
> marker, in this case 'a2', it may also append a '?' if the decode is marginal 
> even using AP.
> 
> If you make your WSJT-X main window a little wider you will see these 
> appended markers (note the scroll bar at the bottom of the window). Of course 
> you could also disable AP decoding but you would lose around 1.5% of useful 
> decodes, that may not sound much but those 1.5% are the most interesting 
> decodes, i.e. stations calling you.
> 
> WSJT-X v1.9 will stop considering AP type 2 decodes a few decodes after you 
> stop calling, this should reduce the already low rate of false AP type 2 
> decodes to a very small one.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
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[wsjt-devel] 2nd and 3rd CQ requests

2018-04-25 Thread Gene Marsh

Hi all,

Puzzling. FT8. I have seen this, maybe 20 times in ~2 weeks. Always on 20m and 
40m. Here is a fictional example:

144330 -14 -0.1 1550 - CQ K1ABC EN91  ~U.S.A.
144330 -16 -0.1 1552 - CQ K1ABC EN91  ~U.S.A.

Another:

013545 -6 0.2 445 - CQ W9XYZ FN51 ~U.S.A.
013545 -8 0.2 447 - CQ W9XYZ FN51 ~U.S.A.
013545 -7 0.2 448 - CQ W9XYZ FN51 ~U.S.A.

- I have seen it in the Band Activity and the Rx Frequency panes. 

- always 2-6 Hz between each other.

- always for CQ only.

- doesn’t make a difference if it is a relatively strong or weak signal. 

- always a valid call sign.

- sometimes it repeats for the next cycle. 

Questions:
- program bug?
- propagation signal image?
- soundcard/computer issue (for 2 different computers- nah)?
- 2 or more real signals sent (I don’t think so)?

Running rc3, deep and AP enabled, Win7 2GHz Celeron and Win10 2.25GH i7. 

Any ideas?  I can try to capture one if it helps. 

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Re: [wsjt-devel] F/H demo at local hamfest

2019-01-02 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

That’s BRILLIANT!

73 de W8NET Miles / “Gene”
Secretary, Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS)

> On Jan 2, 2019, at 9:22 PM, Gary Hinson  wrote:
> 
> Hi George,
>  
> Another approach is to use AUDIO instead of RF for your demo.  No radios 
> needed, just laptops.  Deliberately route the FT8 audio output to the 
> loudspeaker and use the microphone for audio input.  In a typical meeting 
> room, there is generally enough audio level for decoding, above the usual 
> hubbub of excited hams.   [An interesting point that!  FT8 handles weak sigs 
> and QRM very nicely.]
> I’ve run a workshop like that.  The first part of the session involves 
> getting the software installed, running and configured on all the attendees’ 
> laptops, with appropriate audio & station settings and accurate clocks.  
> Ideally that should be a separate pre-session, with competent helpers on hand 
> to deal with the inevitable issues …  or maybe a set of ‘loaner’ laptops 
> pre-configured.
> The second part gets everyone at least receiving and decoding FT8, and 
> hopefully most of them transmitting too, making QSOs within the room. 
> The third part moves into fox-n-hounds, contesting and whatever, for those 
> who have the stamina and interest!
> 73 GL
> Gary  ZL2iFB
>  
>  
> From: WB5JJJ  
> Sent: 03 January 2019 12:10
> To: WSJT software development 
> Subject: [wsjt-devel] F/H demo at local hamfest
>  
> I have been asked to set up a F/H demo for our hamfest in March.  I'm 
> thinking run the power all the way down on some rigs set up around the room 
> and transmitting into dummy loads on a very discrete frequency so as to not 
> get people too excited elsewhere.  This way the local hams could actually see 
> what is going on with the Fox and maybe understand the operation a bit 
> better.  
>  
> Since none of us here are experienced "Foxes", some guidance in this area 
> would be really great.  I know RTFM and I have done that, but experience is a 
> better teacher, in my view.  So, does anyone have a step by step guide on how 
> to set up the Fox and what to expect on the Fox side during this demo?  
>  
> Help would be greatly appreciated to those that are in the know on this 
> subject.  
>  
> Please answer off list.  I'm good on QRZ.  
>  
> Thanks.
> George - WB5JJJ
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - my 2 cents

2019-04-03 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

.-.  .-. 

... as a massive stroke survivor (7/25/14).

Keep pounding away!

73 de W8NET Miles / “Gene”
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Licensed since 1974

> On Apr 3, 2019, at 6:10 PM, Topher Petty  wrote:
> 
> Jari:
> 
> Just keep doing what you're doing. As a fellow handicapped HAM, I say do what 
> you enjoy. 
> 
> I've been known to send off the occasional email to other operators who are 
> experiencing issues with their rigs, and I do so in as helpful of a tone as I 
> can... Some really try to fix it, and others could care less...
> 
> If you know you're not a robot, then those emails mean nothing, and you can 
> just smile and realize that the people sending those emails have nothing 
> better to do than to bother you with meaningless messages about things they 
> don't know anything about.
> 
> Hopefully we'll get the chance to work!
> 
> 73 de AI8W, Chris
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 3:32 PM Gary Hinson  wrote:
>> Hi Tom.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Yes, a robot FT8 CQer that instantly jumped to the frequencies of its chosen 
>> callers would be a nightmare, especially if it then stayed put to call CQ.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> There are still quite a few [human|robot] stations who either don’t 
>> understand or simply disagree with split-by-default on FT8 … but month by 
>> month ever since FT8 was released the proportion has steadily fallen.  
>> Today, I suspect many of them are newcomers to FT8, used to 
>> simplex-by-default on the legacy modes.   [Personally, I’d welcome the 
>> option for the auto-responder to drop simplex callers to the bottom of its 
>> priority list, but maybe that’s just me.]
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Re propagation, I believe we are at the bottom of the solar cycle about now. 
>>  About a year ago I saw a report of the first new-cycle sunspot (with a 
>> different magnetic polarity?) so hopefully we’re on the up.  Now’s a good 
>> time to get your fill of low-band DX!   [In just a few years when 
>> propagation is better and the FT8 frequencies become crowded, 
>> auto-responding to the weakest callers first will make even more sense.]
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 73
>> Gary  ZL2iFB
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Tom Ramberg via wsjt-devel  
>> Sent: 04 April 2019 00:38
>> To: WSJT software development 
>> Cc: Tom Ramberg 
>> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - my 2 cents
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello Jari, I’m happy to see  that we’ve made contact on my little 
>> JW-expedition. These days it seems that SSB is closed from here, but a few 
>> FT8 signals are maiking it. As far as robots are concerned, I cannot do 
>> coding, but I wonder if the urge to have the «hold tx freq» unticked is 
>> robotic or human? Anyway, that is the most annoying habit of all, wether its 
>> a human or a robot. As soon as I’ve found a clear spot, you can bet on 
>> someone either calling me on the frequency, or starts calling somebody else. 
>> And believe me, propagation being what it is these days on 78 degrees 
>> northern latitude, that is more than enough to make me lose a qso. If the 
>> frequency was Clear, no qsy should be necessary (like in SSB), but here I 
>> have to jump all the time. Gary, so much  for Your point no. 4.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 73 de Tom from JQ78tf
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sendt fra E-post for Windows 10
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Fra: Gary Hinson
>> Sendt: onsdag 3. april 2019 kl. 02:18
>> Til: 'WSJT software development'
>> Emne: Re: [wsjt-devel] Someone released an Auto CQ mod - my 2 cents
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Jari,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I look forward to making contact with you some day.   You’re definitely not 
>> the only disabled DXer and, yes, you should be flattered that we can’t 
>> readily tell as much from the far side.  Amateur radio is a great leveler!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So, how might we identify fully-automated/robotic FT8 stations?  That’s a 
>> good question.  We could do with an amateur radio version of the Turing test.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here are some possible indicators of automation/robotic FT8 operation:
>> 
>> · Operating 24x7, or at least for extended periods whereas most hams 
>> would need or choose to take breaks;
>> 
>> · Operating simultaneously on several bands and/or modes – not just 
>> CQing on repeat but making conventional QSOs in parallel, beyond SO2R;
>> 
>> · Always and only using auto-sequencing with standard messages – no 
>> friendly greetings or off-the-cuff comments and responses during or at the 
>> end of their QSOs, easily confused by out-sequence-of and custom messages;
>> 
>> · Static audio frequency for all transmissions – no QSYing to avoid 
>> QRM;
>> 
>> · Regularly timed band-changes e.g. moving to LF at 1700z daily, or 
>> exactly one hour before local sunset maybe;
>> 
>> · Absence from DXpedition fox-n-hounds pileups – for now, at least 
>> (and hopefully forever!);
>> 
>> · Frank admissions by their operators, or evasive/dubious answers if 
>> challenged about this.
>>

Re: [wsjt-devel] Error in Sound Output Message

2019-04-06 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Check your Device Mangler for your sound card. It’s working?

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> On Apr 6, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Richard Solomon  wrote:
> 
> One more thing I noticed. The waterfall shows no signals and the receive  
> strength meter (vertical meter on left) is blank. 
> 
> Looks like no signal getting to FT8 ???
> 
> A Microsoft update issue ??
> 
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ
> 
> Sent from Outlook
>  
> From: Richard Solomon 
> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2019 7:30 AM
> To: wsjt-devel
> Subject: [wsjt-devel] Error in Sound Output Message
>  
> Everything was working fine yesterday, turned the rig on tday, tried to call 
> a station, Transmit was aborted about 1-2 seconds into the call. 
> 
> This error message popped up:
> 
> 
> 
> Any idea on the cause ?
> 
> Tnx, Dick, W1KSZ
> 
> Sent from Outlook
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on decoding

2019-06-04 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Yes, I did that - after I saw the doubles. Hopefully, I will catch it again. 

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> On Jun 4, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Gene --
> 
> Remember that release candidates are intended for test purposes.  When 
> running any -rc# version, you should always run with "Save All" selected.  
> It's easy enough to delete all those unwanted files, later.
> 
>-- Joe, K1JT
> 
>> On 6/4/2019 12:39, Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel wrote:
>> Joe,
>> My setup:
>> Windows 10 Pro - see the pic:
>> image1.jpeg
>> -rc7
>> IC-7300
>> USB audio codec @66% volume
>> Need more info?
>> I will try to save a wav file next time I see it.
>> 73 de W8NET Miles / “Gene”
>> Secretary, Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS)
>> 3905 Century Club - Master #47
>> DV2/W8NET in the Philippines
>> Licensed since 1974
>>> On Jun 4, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Joe Taylor >> <mailto:j...@princeton.edu>> wrote:
>>> Hi Gene,
>>> 
>>> I have seen nothing like the duplicate decodes you report.  Please send us 
>>> the .wav file for one or two of your examples, and tell us something about 
>>> your computer setup.
>>> 
>>>-- 73, Joe, K1JT
>>> 
>>>> On 6/4/2019 11:39, Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel wrote:
>>>> FT4: I have seen 7-8 times, double decoding.  Always a strong signal. 
>>>> Example:
>>>> image1.png
>>>> I saw that in the early days of FT8.
>>>>  Except for that, it’s working really well. (Thank you Joe and your team)
>>>> 73 de W8NET Miles / “Gene”
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on decoding

2019-06-04 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Mike,

My ALC is ~25% @80W.  But, I have no issues with transmit.  Only observing the 
double decode.  Everything else is good. 

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> On Jun 4, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Black Michael  wrote:
> 
> I do believe 63% audio on the IC7300 is wayy too much audio.  What does 
> your ALC meter say?
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 4, 2019, 11:44:04 AM CDT, Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Joe,
> 
> My setup:
> 
> Windows 10 Pro - see the pic:
> 
> 
> 
> -rc7
> IC-7300
> USB audio codec @66% volume
> 
> Need more info?
> 
> I will try to save a wav file next time I see it. 
> 
> 
> 73 de W8NET Miles / “Gene”
> Secretary, Portage County Amateur Radio Service (PCARS)
> 3905 Century Club - Master #47
> DV2/W8NET in the Philippines
> Licensed since 1974
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2019, at 12:12 PM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Hi Gene,
>> 
>> I have seen nothing like the duplicate decodes you report.  Please send us 
>> the .wav file for one or two of your examples, and tell us something about 
>> your computer setup.
>> 
>>-- 73, Joe, K1JT
>> 
>>> On 6/4/2019 11:39, Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel wrote:
>>> FT4: I have seen 7-8 times, double decoding.  Always a strong signal. 
>>> Example:
>>> image1.png
>>> I saw that in the early days of FT8.
>>>  Except for that, it’s working really well. (Thank you Joe and your team)
>>> 73 de W8NET Miles / “Gene”
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[wsjt-devel] Broken “good” QSO?

2019-06-04 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Ok

I called IZ0CUV
He responded with -13
I didn’t decode his report 
He didn’t hear his response 
His next transmission I heard was his CQ - and was GREEN. 

No 73 or RR73.  No log entry. 

???

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[wsjt-devel] Mock contest observations

2019-06-04 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Joe,

Ramblings from Kent, Ohio:

- as this was a “mock contest”, I think was a: 1) good indication of 
functionality, and 2) not a good indicator of contest conditions. Because we 
had a small sample of stations for “congestion” in a contest, we need more real 
life contest conditions.  SUGGESTION: for purposes of “making congestion” can 
you limit the bandwidth on FT4 for the next -rc# to use only (for example) 
1000-1500?  It could make it more realistic. 

- less than 10% of stations use the second “73”.  

- three times I didn’t get a response from a station, but yet the stations were 
marked GREEN, like it was confirmed. 

- I only missed 4-5 stations I heard, out of ~80. If it decides, I worked them. 
Nice percentage. 

- my weakest signals were -18.  No problem working them. Maybe, the threshold 
can be “loosened”???

- you need logs or anything?

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Bug report: WSJT-X fails to output sound after several minutes idle

2019-06-15 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Check your Windows 10 updates first.  I had the same issue.  Now, no problem. 

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> On Jun 15, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Tom M0LTE  wrote:
> 
> This happens to me from time to time.
> 
>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 22:43, Steve Masticola via wsjt-devel 
>>  wrote:
>> Program version: 2.0.1 7ddcb7
>> 
>> Operating system: Windows 10, ver. 1809 (OS Build 17763.503)
>> 
>> Description: After sitting idle with Monitor on for several minutes, WSJT-X 
>> will key the transceiver on Tune or transmit, but does not generate sound to 
>> the soundcard. I have confirmed that the issue is in WSJT-X, not Windows or 
>> the soundcard. Confirmation was by testing the soundcard with the Windows 
>> Speaker Properties popup to eliminate Windows or the soundcard as the cause. 
>> 100% reproducible for users who are seeing this. Have identified a small 
>> number of other users who are affected. Can obtain additional logs if 
>> helpful. Please advise.
>> 
>> Sequence of steps to repeat:
>> 
>> Note: Only a small number of users reproduce this AFAICT. 
>> 
>> 1. Disable Windows screen saver and all USB power-saving options.
>> 2. Start WSJT-X.
>> 3. Confirm proper operation of Tune control.
>> 4. Let WSJT-X idle for 10-30 minutes.
>> 5. Key the Tune control. Rig will be placed in transmit mode but no audio 
>> will go to the soundcard.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X/IC-7300 Power Issue

2019-08-19 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

I had the same issue before. Check your Windows 10 sound “USB Mic Codec” level. 
 And, in your 7300 mod level needs to be 35-50% or less. 

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> On Aug 19, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Look at the audio mixer control and adjust the audio level there for WSJT-X.
> 
> What I'm not sure of is if this is a Windows 10 update that caused it or a Qt 
> library change.
> I think Bill has mentioned it's a recent Windows 10 update that put the mixer 
> in the path now.
> 
> Does the 32-bit version cause the same problem?  That's an older version of 
> Qt.
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, August 19, 2019, 11:54:58 AM CDT, Christopher Diederich via 
> wsjt-devel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> First - regret sending from an e-mail address that is different from my 
> registered account. 
>  
> After upgrading to the subject version of the software, I noticed that my 
> output power levels were very low. With my IC-7300 power maxed and the power 
> slider on the program maxed, I can only get 50 watts output. 
>  
> I use JTAlert-X v2.14.1 in conjunction with WSJT-X. I am using Win 10 Pro for 
> my OS. 
>  
> Once I increased my USB modulation on my IC7300, I was able to increase my 
> power out. 
>  
> There is not specific sequence that results in the issue. It’s merely a power 
> out issue. The only thing that changed was the version of WSJT-X.
> 
> I have the latest firmware/software on my IC7300. I connect via USB cable 
> from the rear of the radio to my computer. All other digital mode programs 
> function normally. 
>  
> There is another local Ham who is experiencing the same issue.
>  
> Thank you.
> 
> 73
> de K1LDO
> Chris Diederich
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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 Frequency on 40-m

2019-07-27 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

No!

FT8 is WAY MORE sensitive! (~8db)

FT4 is awesome for MORE contacts (i.e. contests).

I’m sticking with FT8 for QUALITY. 

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> On Jul 27, 2019, at 5:47 PM, Roy Gould  wrote:
> 
> Gentlemen:
> 
> Bandwidth and weak signal performance are important considerations when 
> comparing the relative merits of FT8 and FT4. Perhaps an even more important 
> consideration is which of these is the most fun to operate.
> 
> I have been using FT4 since the release of 2.1.0 and find that I like it a 
> lot better than FT8. It is twice as fast and features such as Best S+P are 
> great. I have abandoned FT8 in favor of FT4. I anticipate that others will 
> come to the same conclusion and eventually FT4 will replace FT8.
> 
> I do not like having FT4 on the same frequency as W1AW (7.0475 MHz). I often 
> copy the code practice and the bulletins from W1AW. I do not usually copy 
> these CW broadcasts by ear. I use them for code practice for CW programs such 
> as Fldigi and CW Decoder. I have these programs copy the bulletins for me as 
> if this was a digital mode signal. I would like to be able to receive W1AW 
> without interference from any other nearby signals.
> 
> It does not seem to me that there is any reason that FT4 and FT8 cannot 
> operate together in the same channel. If this is so, then why have separate 
> channels for them?
> 
> Therefore, I propose that the default 40-m frequency for FT4 be 7.074 MHz.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> 73, Roy, W7IDM
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[wsjt-devel] SUGGESTION: Display or not, confirmed QSOs

2019-07-30 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Joe (and the team),

First, the last (new) rev of WSJT-X is WAY FASTER to decode a busy band.  THANK 
YOU!

My suggestion: Because I made thousands of FT8 contacts (especially on 20m, 30m 
and 40m), a huge amount of the CQ decodes on a busy band are GREEN (confirmed 
QSO for call/band/etc). Even if I check CQ Only, I have 2 pages of CQs.  

Can you change (maybe in settings, or a check box on the main screen) to  
filter out decodes for confirmed calls? Only for CQs.  Easy to do - you have 
the logic for parsing.

If I missed it, and the program has this logic, please explain how and reply to 
me with a “DOH!”

;)

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Re: [wsjt-devel] FT4 Frequency on 40-m

2019-07-28 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Hi Steve, 

I didn’t calculate everything - and thank you for doing “my work” for me.  ;)

In the real world, we need more empirical data to support my thought = FT8 is 
superior for weak signal/DX/“valuable” contacts (and, of course, “value” is 
purely subjective).  We know is “better” qualitatively, but in the real world, 
how much?  We don’t have the history for FT4 DX pileups. In fact, we have only 
a smattering of good FT8 data. 

I *believe*, in more than 8000+ FT8 contacts (vs ~175 FT4 contacts!), FT8 is 
clearly better than FT4 for weak signals.  But, how much value can be used for 
a QUANTITATIVE assessment (rare DX vs many more contacts).  I need more data. 

Thanks for your response!

I’m staying tuned

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> On Jul 28, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Steven Franke  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gene,
> 
>> FT8 is WAY MORE sensitive! (~8db)
> 
> That number is not right. On the additive white Gaussian noise (AWGN) 
> channel, the 50% decode probability of FT8 occurs at SNR=-20.8 dB and the 50% 
> decode probability of FT4 occurs at SNR=-17.5 dB.  The sensitivity difference 
> is therefore 3.3 dB. 
> 
> On channels with severe Doppler spreading, the threshold SNR is higher for 
> both modes, and the difference between FT8 and FT4 will decrease somewhat 
> because FT4’s larger tone separation tends to give it an advantage in those 
> cases.
> 
> It might be of interest to some to consider that FT8 uses symbols with 
> duration 160 ms to send 3 bits apiece. FT4 uses symbols with duration 48 ms 
> to send 2 bits apiece. For a given average transmitter power, the energy that 
> is transmitted per bit for FT8 is larger than the energy transmitted per bit 
> for FT4 by the factor (160/3)/(48/2) = 2.22. Thus, the theoretical 
> sensitivity difference (ignoring any differences in signal detection, 
> synchronization or LDPC decoding efficiency) is 10*log10(2.22) = 3.46 dB, 
> very close to the actual difference of 3.3 dB that I quoted above.
> 
> I have no strong feelings one way or the other about your main point, but I 
> think that it’s preferable to base the discussion on accurate numbers.
> 
>> 
>> FT4 is awesome for MORE contacts (i.e. contests).
>> 
>> I’m sticking with FT8 for QUALITY. 
>> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Question, FT8

2021-10-03 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Allen and Andy,

Yes, it is not required.  However, many stations (especially fox and hound)  
MUST receive a 73 to acknowledge a contact for a card. 

73 de W8NET Miles “Gene” Marsh 

> On Oct 3, 2021, at 7:20 PM, Allan Downie via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Andy...Yes it happens all the time..BY DESIGN, apparently. I find it 
> most frustrating and bordering on rude. Technically the return 73 is not 
> required for a valid QSO, however it is the polite thing to do. At the very 
> least if confirms to your operating partner that all was received. I would 
> like to at least see it as an operator option.
> 
> Allan - VK4QG
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> On 3/10/2021 12:05 am, Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel wrote:
>> Hello to the group,
>> 
>> I am using WSJTx, version 2.5, using the version for Ubuntu 20.04.  When 
>> operating FT8 and in contact with a station, once that station sends 73 my 
>> transmit becomes disabled, so my station does not send 73 unless I manually 
>> send it.  I am using auto sequence.  So, the question is, should my station 
>> progress automatically to send 73?  I have seen this happen a number of 
>> times, but not sure if it is happening all the time.  So, I just thought I 
>> would ask.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Andy, ka2uqw
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Re: [wsjt-devel] “Disable Tx after sending 73” not working

2022-07-18 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Reino, if that is the case, why do you need to check the box “Disable Tx after 
sending”?

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> On Jul 18, 2022, at 3:55 PM, Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
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> 
>> 
>> For clarity: I am trying to set it to the UNCHECKED  function.   
> 
>> Checked or unchecked, it is still the same: “Enable Tx” is OFF when a QSO is 
>> complete. 
> 
> Hi Gene
> 
> To my understanding this the normal behavior for FT8. If Tx Enable would stay 
> active, then you would have a robot functionality built into FT8.
> 
> 73, Reino OH3mA
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Re: [wsjt-devel] “Disable Tx after sending 73” not working

2022-07-18 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

For clarity: I am trying to set it to the UNCHECKED  function.   

Checked or unchecked, it is still the same: “Enable Tx” is OFF when a QSO is 
complete. 

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> On Jul 18, 2022, at 1:43 PM, Gene Marsh  wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Toggled it, checked and unchecked, several times. Each time I always press OK.
> 
> 73 de W8NET Miles “Gene” Marsh
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>> On Jul 18, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Jim Preston via wsjt-devel 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Gene,
>> 
>> Did you click "OK" after clicking "Disable"? The reason I ask is that the 
>> "Disable" box in your picture is not checked.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Jim N6VH
>> 
>>>> On 7/16/2022 7:12 AM, Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> My setup:
>>> Windows 10/i5/8GB
>>> WSJT-X v2.5.4 d38164
>>> FTDX10
>>> I checked “Disable…” again, then closed the app.  Then tried again.  Same. 
>>> Rebooted.  Same thing.
>>> I saw the same thing on the last version (2.5.1?).  Also tried to 
>>> reinstall.  Same thing.
>>> Am I missing something simple ( I do have many DOH! moments)?
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Re: [wsjt-devel] “Disable Tx after sending 73” not working

2022-07-18 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

Jim,

Toggled it, checked and unchecked, several times. Each time I always press OK.

73 de W8NET Miles “Gene” Marsh
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> On Jul 18, 2022, at 1:38 PM, Jim Preston via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> Gene,
> 
> Did you click "OK" after clicking "Disable"? The reason I ask is that the 
> "Disable" box in your picture is not checked.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jim N6VH
> 
>> On 7/16/2022 7:12 AM, Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> My setup:
>> Windows 10/i5/8GB
>> WSJT-X v2.5.4 d38164
>> FTDX10
>> I checked “Disable…” again, then closed the app.  Then tried again.  Same. 
>> Rebooted.  Same thing.
>> I saw the same thing on the last version (2.5.1?).  Also tried to reinstall. 
>>  Same thing.
>> Am I missing something simple ( I do have many DOH! moments)?
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Re: [wsjt-devel] ARRL Digi contest log converting to Cabrillo

2023-06-05 Thread Gene Marsh via wsjt-devel

You can use ADIF Master as well. A great ADIF tool box app.  It’s free.73 de W8NET Miles “Gene” MarshARRL A1 Operator 3905 Century Club Master #47Hurricane Watch Net member On Jun 5, 2023, at 5:23 AM, Dennis W1UE via wsjt-devel  wrote:HannuUse N1mM+.  Setup the contest i nN1mM+, then import the adi file into N1MM+.  Then you canwrite the Cabrillo file from that.Dennis W1UEOn Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 2:48 AM Hannu Eloranta via wsjt-devel  wrote:So Cabrillo log creation didn't work.How do I convert wsjtx_log.adi to Cabrillo format? (Easiest way)73 OG3Z Hannu
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