On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 07:26:35AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:21:28 +0100, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote:
Can we get some more details here please? Alanc also mentioned ssl
certificates, FOSDEM 2010 and Videohackfest from the top of his head.
We haven't paid
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 01:05:14PM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Chris Ball wrote:
expo (the 2U machine) was there originally, and this serves the
needs of *.x.org fairly well. The 3U machines were donated by
Sun and were earmarked for backup, redundancy, sharing fd.o
Hi,
Last time I looked at OSUOSL for hosting, they wouldn't let
people have root on hosted machines -- do you know if that's
still the case?
That's a good question. I know at least one admin, warthog9, has
full control of his machines. I think it varies depending on the
Hi,
(Speaking as an ex-Board member.)
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 08:54:27AM +0100, ps wrote:
As X.Org is the successor of the XConsortium, I expect there should be a
roadmap of where X Window development is heading and how much money is
needed to reach these goals and how these funds are
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:21:28 +0100, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote:
Can we get some more details here please? Alanc also mentioned ssl
certificates, FOSDEM 2010 and Videohackfest from the top of his head.
We haven't paid for any SSL certificates, or a video hackfest. The sum
total of our
Keith Packard wrote:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:21:28 +0100, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote:
Can we get some more details here please? Alanc also mentioned ssl
certificates, FOSDEM 2010 and Videohackfest from the top of his head.
We haven't paid for any SSL certificates, or a video
On Feb 16, 10 07:26:35 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
Our outstanding obligations today are MIT hosting for this year ($3000)
and travel expenses for FOSDEM 2010 ($660).
Not that it matters too much, but $3000 sounds pretty hefty for hosting.
OTOH I don't know hardware, bandwidth, or what is
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote:
Not that it matters too much, but $3000 sounds pretty hefty for hosting.
yes; that's fifteen linode instances for instance.
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 07:26:35AM -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:21:28 +0100, Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be wrote:
Can we get some more details here please? Alanc also mentioned ssl
certificates, FOSDEM 2010 and Videohackfest from the top of his head.
We haven't paid
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:07:32 +0100
Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote:
On Feb 16, 10 07:26:35 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
Our outstanding obligations today are MIT hosting for this year ($3000)
and travel expenses for FOSDEM 2010 ($660).
Not that it matters too much, but $3000 sounds
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 04:45:09PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:07:32 +0100 Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote:
On Feb 16, 10 07:26:35 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
Our outstanding obligations today are MIT hosting for this year ($3000)
and travel expenses for FOSDEM 2010
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 05:01:28PM +, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 04:45:09PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:07:32 +0100 Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote:
On Feb 16, 10 07:26:35 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
Our outstanding obligations today are MIT
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:54:56 +0100, Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote:
But something like $100 / month sounds like a reasonable upper limit for
me, and you should actually get by for half of it.
We've got three servers and a switch; the 3U servers are $1200/year, and
the 2U server + switch is
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 06:11:38PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 05:01:28PM +, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 04:45:09PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
Seems pretty extrodinary. Exactly what can't say bluehost provide at
$3.95 a month that MIT can at
On Feb 16, 10 09:20:44 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:54:56 +0100, Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote:
But something like $100 / month sounds like a reasonable upper limit for
me, and you should actually get by for half of it.
We've got three servers and a switch; the
On Feb 16, 10 11:54:35 -0600, Jeremy White wrote:
Keith Packard wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:54:56 +0100, Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote:
But something like $100 / month sounds like a reasonable upper limit for
me, and you should actually get by for half of it.
We've got three servers
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 07:00:40PM +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote:
On Feb 16, 10 09:20:44 -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:54:56 +0100, Matthias Hopf mh...@suse.de wrote:
But something like $100 / month sounds like a reasonable upper limit for
me, and you should
Since there's been a lot of other server stuff thrown around, anyone
have any idea how much bandwidth fd.o uses?
Cody Maloney
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 07:00:40PM +0100, Matthias Hopf wrote:
On Feb 16, 10 09:20:44
Hi,
Sun Fire V40z AMD Opteron 3U Rack Mnt x86 Server:2xAMD Opteron
850 CPUs, 4 DDR1/333 Registered ECC DIMMs (4x1GB), 1x73GB 10K RPM
Thanks; somewhat entry-level by 2010 standards (unsurprisingly), then.
Sounds like the decision is between:
(a) get them going anyway, perhaps use for
There is a good expression for that in Russian. распил бабла =
raspil babla ~= split the loot ;) That's a usual thing with the
budgets in (new-Soviet) Russia - when it is spent on inadequately
expensive things (and part of the price returns to the govt people as
a form of bribes, named откат =
Regarding hosting, the possibility of OSUOSL is still on the table. At least
one sysadmin is on our side, and I'm increasingly looking towards the
seven-year plan, so there are two of us here.
Posting from a mobile, pardon my terseness. ~ C.
On Feb 16, 2010 1:05 PM, Alan Coopersmith
Hi Corbin,
Regarding hosting, the possibility of OSUOSL is still on the
table. At least one sysadmin is on our side, and I'm increasingly
looking towards the seven-year plan, so there are two of us here.
Last time I looked at OSUOSL for hosting, they wouldn't let people
have root on
That's a good question. I know at least one admin, warthog9, has full
control of his machines. I think it varies depending on the group and the
extent of the hosting.
Posting from a mobile, pardon my terseness. ~ C.
On Feb 16, 2010 2:58 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
Hi Corbin,
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:02:21PM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
#xorg-bod on OFTC, fortnightly. I think it's something like 10AM
Wednesdays, Portland time?
For TZ=US/Pacific, 2pm on every other Tuesday. (My calendar shows
the next ones are 2/16 3/2.)
We should
Luc Verhaegen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:02:21PM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
#xorg-bod on OFTC, fortnightly. I think it's something like 10AM
Wednesdays, Portland time?
For TZ=US/Pacific, 2pm on every other Tuesday. (My calendar shows
the next ones are 2/16
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:29:04PM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Luc Verhaegen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:02:21PM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
#xorg-bod on OFTC, fortnightly. I think it's something like 10AM
Wednesdays, Portland time?
For TZ=US/Pacific,
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 05:26:46PM -0600, David Nicol wrote:
It seems that the X bylaws allow for outsider participation,
Yeah, they do.
perhaps
to provide oversight to mitigate developer-driven coolitis (not as bad
a malady as featuritis, but still suboptimal), and that has attracted
me.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote:
(If
people want to get paid for hacking X, just mention it and you'll have
quite a few companies beating down your door ...)
You must be exaggerating. Anyway, I'm running as the outsider.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:46:21PM -0600, David Nicol wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote:
(If
people want to get paid for hacking X, just mention it and you'll have
quite a few companies beating down your door ...)
You must be exaggerating.
I think I'm allowed to disclose at least three serious job offers I've
received just for my Mesa contributions. I don't think I will have an
employment problem when I finally leave school.
Posting from a mobile, pardon my terseness. ~ C.
On Feb 15, 2010 11:53 AM, David Nicol davidni...@gmail.com
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:48:48AM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:22:12PM -0800, Barton C Massey wrote:
In message 20100210173132.gb3...@skynet.be you wrote:
This is what the bylaws state: The Board shall keep
minutes of its meetings in which shall be recorded all
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 09:26:56PM -0800, Keith Packard wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:47:11 +, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote:
[0]: Namely, it's been incredibly difficult to even get a statement out
out of our current bank. We've been hoping to switch for quite
On 15 February 2010 20:08, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 01:46:21PM -0600, David Nicol wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote:
(If
people want to get paid for hacking X, just mention it and you'll have
quite a few
--
From: David Nicol davidni...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election
To: Luc Verhaegen l...@skynet.be
Cc: Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org, memb...@x.org,
xorg@lists.freedesktop.org
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Luc
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Matt Turner matts...@gmail.com wrote:
So, who are you, why do you want to run for the board, what have been
your contributions to X and why should I take you seriously?
Matt Turner
I am an outsider to X development -- sure, I've been using an X
display for
Hello, xorg@lists.freedesktop.org
I'm running for a position on the BOD.
Please vote for me.
-- Forwarded message --
From: David Nicol davidni...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: X.Org Foundation Board of Directors 2010 Election
To: Luc Verhaegen l
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 11:17:22PM -0800, Barton C Massey wrote:
Voting for the 2010 Election of the X.Org Foundation Board
of Directors opens Friday 5 Feb 2010 at 0100 UTC, and closes
Thursday 18 Feb 2010 at 2300 UTC. All current Members of
the X.Org Foundation are eligible to vote in this
(tl;dr: Yes, I agree that the Foundation needs to be doing a lot more,
but nothing we've done is hidden from our members, i.e. board
members know basically as much as you, and that this is a result
of lack of time/etc, rather than any desire to keep any
information
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 07:47:11PM +, Daniel Stone wrote:
(tl;dr: Yes, I agree that the Foundation needs to be doing a lot more,
but nothing we've done is hidden from our members, i.e. board
members know basically as much as you, and that this is a result
of lack of
Daniel Stone wrote:
Bear in mind though that the channel is open and meetings are held at a
regular time, so everyone has as much opportunity to find out what goes
on during the meetings as me. :)
I don't think anyone outside of the Board and the Treasurer were ever told
the meeting time or
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 13:12, Alan Coopersmith
alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
Bear in mind though that the channel is open and meetings are held at a
regular time, so everyone has as much opportunity to find out what goes
on during the meetings as me. :)
I don't think
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:42:33AM -0600, David Nicol wrote:
A vote for David Nicol is a vote for transparency!
Full transparency into exactly what all the board members know still
wouldn't tell you much more than what you already know.
Cheers,
Daniel
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 09:43:04PM +, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:42:33AM -0600, David Nicol wrote:
A vote for David Nicol is a vote for transparency!
Full transparency into exactly what all the board members know still
wouldn't tell you much more than what you
Hi,
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 09:56:08PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
I have no idea when such meetings are supposed to be held, how regular
there are. No such information is available publically, or at least not
available to my knowledge.
#xorg-bod on OFTC, fortnightly. I think it's
Daniel Stone wrote:
#xorg-bod on OFTC, fortnightly. I think it's something like 10AM
Wednesdays, Portland time?
For TZ=US/Pacific, 2pm on every other Tuesday. (My calendar shows
the next ones are 2/16 3/2.)
We should be able to add it to the X.Org google calendar whot set up.
--
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 02:02:21PM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
#xorg-bod on OFTC, fortnightly. I think it's something like 10AM
Wednesdays, Portland time?
For TZ=US/Pacific, 2pm on every other Tuesday. (My calendar shows
the next ones are 2/16 3/2.)
We should
On 02/10/10 11:47 AM, Daniel Stone wrote:
(tl;dr: Yes, I agree that the Foundation needs to be doing a lot more,
but nothing we've done is hidden from our members, i.e. board
members know basically as much as you, and that this is a result
of lack of time/etc, rather
In message 20100210173132.gb3...@skynet.be you wrote:
This is what the bylaws state: The Board shall keep
minutes of its meetings in which shall be recorded all
action taken by it, and at least a summary thereof shall
be submitted to the Members at least annually. [1]
I have submitted an
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:17:16PM -0800, Stuart Kreitman wrote:
On 02/10/10 11:47 AM, Daniel Stone wrote:
(tl;dr: Yes, I agree that the Foundation needs to be doing a lot more,
but nothing we've done is hidden from our members, i.e. board
members know basically as much as
In message 4b732120.50...@sun.com you wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
Bear in mind though that the channel is open and
meetings are held at a regular time, so everyone has as
much opportunity to find out what goes on during the
meetings as me. :)
I don't think anyone outside of the Board
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:22:12PM -0800, Barton C Massey wrote:
In message 20100210173132.gb3...@skynet.be you wrote:
This is what the bylaws state: The Board shall keep
minutes of its meetings in which shall be recorded all
action taken by it, and at least a summary thereof shall
be
Barton C Massey wrote:
In message 4b732120.50...@sun.com you wrote:
Daniel Stone wrote:
Bear in mind though that the channel is open and
meetings are held at a regular time, so everyone has as
much opportunity to find out what goes on during the
meetings as me. :)
I don't think anyone
On 02/10/10 03:43 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:17:16PM -0800, Stuart Kreitman wrote:
On 02/10/10 11:47 AM, Daniel Stone wrote:
(tl;dr: Yes, I agree that the Foundation needs to be doing a lot more,
but nothing we've done is hidden from our members,
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 05:01:11PM -0800, Stuart Kreitman wrote:
On 02/10/10 03:43 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:17:16PM -0800, Stuart Kreitman wrote:
On 02/10/10 11:47 AM, Daniel Stone wrote:
(tl;dr: Yes, I agree that the Foundation needs to be doing a lot
On 02/10/10 05:14 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 05:01:11PM -0800, Stuart Kreitman wrote:
On 02/10/10 03:43 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:17:16PM -0800, Stuart Kreitman wrote:
On 02/10/10 11:47 AM, Daniel Stone wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 03:17:16PM -0800, Stuart Kreitman wrote:
On 02/10/10 11:47 AM, Daniel Stone wrote:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 06:31:32PM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
The X.org Foundation exists to best represent the interests of the X.org
Foundation members, by being the legal
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:14:58AM +0100, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
Disclaimer: All of this is off the top of my head. I could be and am
probably wrong on some of the details. This does not represent an
official statement on behalf of the Foundation, etc, etc.
There should be no puzzle about the bank records.
With the original Board and attorney's knowledge, I set up the XOrg accounts
with OSBC. Those accounts contained all XOrg funds. Keith became treasurer
and I co-signed until Stuart became co-signer.
During that period very little money was
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 05:26:15PM -0800, Stuart Kreitman wrote:
On 02/10/10 05:14 PM, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
Like last year, there are no FOSDEM costs. After some questions were
raised about the social event, I decided to also forgo asking X.org
sponsorship for that.
No point in debating
Luc Verhaegen wrote:
Well, i am worried about the general state of affairs when people are
just guessing about the amount left. I would like to see how funds were
used in the last year to be able to decide on the future direction.
Keith would have the full report. From memory and a quick
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:47:11 +, Daniel Stone dan...@fooishbar.org wrote:
[0]: Namely, it's been incredibly difficult to even get a statement out
out of our current bank. We've been hoping to switch for quite
some time, but unfortunately this is basically predicated on the
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 08:03:09AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
This is explained if you follow the link in the The Elections overview page
describes the voting methods and process. statement on the wiki page Bart
included in the announcement.
Near the bottom of the linked
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 11:17:22PM -0800, Barton C Massey wrote:
Voting for the 2010 Election of the X.Org Foundation Board
of Directors opens Friday 5 Feb 2010 at 0100 UTC, and closes
Thursday 18 Feb 2010 at 2300 UTC. All current Members of
the X.Org Foundation are eligible to vote in this
Luc is right, there is a limit of 2 board members who work for a given
company.
And company affiliations should be clearly visible on the candidate list.
The procedure followed in a prior election, was that after tallying votes,
only the two highest-scoring reps were approved as members of
Voting for the 2010 Election of the X.Org Foundation Board
of Directors opens Friday 5 Feb 2010 at 0100 UTC, and closes
Thursday 18 Feb 2010 at 2300 UTC. All current Members of
the X.Org Foundation are eligible to vote in this election.
Members may vote by logging in to the web app at
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