Re: Ideas for the Xubuntu desktop (Was: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes)

2016-08-23 Thread Sean Davis
Much of what has been discussed so far is regarding panel layouts. We introduced a new tool to Xubuntu a few releases back that allows you to import, export, and apply various panel layouts. This is installed by default and available from 1) the panel preferences > backup and restore, or 2)

Re: Ideas for the Xubuntu desktop (Was: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes)

2016-08-23 Thread Benoit THIBAUD
Have you tried the XFCE panel switch in the setting manager ? It's not a whole answer to your request but it's here in Xubuntu. The looking is also a theme. Perhaps a windows flavor for example the last one (windows10 for example) and the last Mac OS should be added in the default themes list

Re: Ideas for the Xubuntu desktop (Was: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes)

2016-08-23 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Hello Mark, again, comments inline. On 2016-08-23 03:21, Mark F wrote: """ This means if enough people want change (and are there to do the tasks needed), then it's likely to happen as well. """ I guess what I'm trying to imply is that there are (apparently) enough people when you count all

Re: Ideas for the Xubuntu desktop (Was: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes)

2016-08-22 Thread Mark F
""" This means if enough people want change (and are there to do the tasks needed), then it's likely to happen as well. """ I guess what I'm trying to imply is that there are (apparently) enough people when you count all those using different Xfce implementations. It seems like a chicken/egg

Re: Ideas for the Xubuntu desktop (Was: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes)

2016-08-22 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
On 2016-08-23 01:31, Mark F wrote: Whether that box is ever re-opened and things that are accepted as "this is Xubuntu" are reconsidered. As I said in a previous mail, Xubuntu is ultimately defined by the people who contribute to Xubuntu (this is equally true for all volunteer-based

Re: Ideas for the Xubuntu desktop (Was: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes)

2016-08-22 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Hello Mark, again, find my comments inline. On 2016-08-23 01:05, Mark F wrote: Pasi wrote: """ That said, I don't understand how such surveys could replace testimonials or how they are comparable. """ What I am trying to get at is that testimonials and marketing imply increasing "market"

Re: Ideas for the Xubuntu desktop (Was: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes)

2016-08-22 Thread Mark F
Another thought: I was looking at Zorin OS. They have a few desktop configurations (XP, 7, 2000, Mac OS). Something like that would be cool. (Not mimicking Windows that tightly, but, making what's available in other distros available in Xubuntu -- with a click?). Again, I was focusing on the

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-22 Thread Mark F
Thanks for replying, Jack. Maybe I misunderstood what's involved with MintX. In what way is not pure Xfce? I looked at xfce.org and they show a different-appearing desktop than MintX or Xubuntu. I thought it was more a matter of default configuration, choices about application categories, making

Re: Ideas for the Xubuntu desktop (Was: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes)

2016-08-22 Thread Mark F
Pasi wrote: """ That said, I don't understand how such surveys could replace testimonials or how they are comparable. """ What I am trying to get at is that testimonials and marketing imply increasing "market" share. But, testimonials only query those who are already sold -- not those who

Ideas for the Xubuntu desktop (Was: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes)

2016-08-22 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Hello Mark, please find my comments inline. On 2016-08-22 22:28, Mark F wrote: I'm a new Xubuntu user. I've been using Lubuntu for over a year. I saw this topic in the mailing-list archives and thought this post (questions, observations) might be welcome here. I think it ties into marketing?

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-22 Thread Jack Jr.
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[TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-22 Thread Mark F
I'm a new Xubuntu user. I've been using Lubuntu for over a year. I saw this topic in the mailing-list archives and thought this post (questions, observations) might be welcome here. I think it ties into marketing? I looked at Mint Xfce and, to be honest, I like it *much* more. The only reason I

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-10 Thread Adam Eveleigh
>From: PK >I have one suggestion to make: the perceived quality of the "brand" Xubuntu >can perhaps be improved when the only codebase is Ubuntu LTS and its point >releases. So no more short-lived intermediate releases. Comparable with the >release policy that Linux Mint

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-08 Thread Adam Eveleigh
> I realise that this is a big and wide debate, but I strongly disagree with > going just with LTS unless if significant effort is put into Ubuntu Backports > (as far as I know, Backports aren't frequently updated) or Xubuntu adopts > Snappy (which could have hard drive size issues) Of

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-08 Thread flocculant
It's also worth noting that you can do the LTS->LTS upgrades only; nobody is forcing you to upgrade to regular releases between. Also getting back on-topic, please note that this thread IS NOT the thread for "testimonials"; this is discussion to plan how/where to collect them. If we set up

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-08 Thread flocculant
On 08/08/16 16:07, JMZ wrote: I don't mind a Xubuntu LTS-only policy so long as a few other Ubuntu flavors maintain intermediate releases. Have other Ubuntu flavors discussed going to LTS only? With intermediate releases, it's possible to mix and match different ppa's to create hybrid

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-08 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I am not sure how useful the following is: ( Acknolwedge that Linux should be written as GNU/Linux btw ) I run the Torbay Tech jam, we were donated about 25 netbooks HP110 and 210 models, I am in the slow process of installing Xubuntu 16.04 on

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-08 Thread JMZ
I don't mind a Xubuntu LTS-only policy so long as a few other Ubuntu flavors maintain intermediate releases. Have other Ubuntu flavors discussed going to LTS only? With intermediate releases, it's possible to mix and match different ppa's to create hybrid systems. For example: I download

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-08 Thread Willem Hobers
The aftermarket route is certainly the route I've taken, for the reasons Pjotr described, and I would indeed prefer the LTS-only-release cycle. Seems Pjotr read my mind just now. :-) Xeep going strong. ;-) thanks for all the work. W Op 8 aug. 2016 15:12 schreef "PK" :

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-08 Thread PK
In my experience, marketing-wise, Xubuntu is an excellent *aftermarket* product. People first start out with the Ubuntu or Linux Mint they've heard about, find out that performance on older hardware is a bit disappointing, and start looking for lightweight replacements. Then they find Xubuntu:

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-08 Thread michael meelis
Hi, For what is worth, that is what I have been going (as a lead) for 5 years full time with http://www.freshbook.nl/faq/ (check with google translate Dutch-English (or your language)) (Note: Site design is now also 5 years old. Also click through to youtube for timestamps). I can tell you the

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-06 Thread Rudi Servo
Hello, Actually not a bad idea and I see what Pasi is trying to do. Get the word out by social media so people will gather around and see what really happening with Xubuntu and it is not just another distro. It's important for people, not only who is looking for Distro, but specially for the

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-06 Thread JMZ
Hi Pasi, I apologize for the rather pessimistic tone of my original post. Despite all my evangelization efforts over the years, no person I know has "stuck with it" and become an avid Linux user. You are right. Sow the seeds of Linux widely. Who knows where it will bloom? Good luck with

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-06 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
If you look at it from the other side of the coin, why create something that you don't want to spread to as many people as possible? Cheers, Pasi On 2016-08-06 03:13, JMZ wrote: Pardon my confusion, but why market something that's not for sale? I've been using desktop Linux for quite some

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-05 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Note: Top-posting reverted. Comments at the end of the message. On 05/08/16 15:04, Sean Davis wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, 5:24 PM Pasi Lallinaho > wrote: > > Hello team, > > especially during the #LoveXubuntu campaign we've got

Re: [TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-05 Thread Sean Davis
This sounds like a good idea to me. If there's any way we can simplify the process (copy and paste template, online submission form, etc) I feel like that would improve the quality and quantity of submissions. On Mon, Aug 1, 2016, 5:24 PM Pasi Lallinaho wrote: > Hello

[TEAM] Gathering "testimonials" for marketing purposes

2016-08-01 Thread Pasi Lallinaho
Hello team, especially during the #LoveXubuntu campaign we've got quite a bunch of "thanks" from our users. These include stories about how Xubuntu has made the users' computing experience better, good arguments for why Xubuntu is the best OS for them (and potentially others) etc.