Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[soundsgoodtome]

since i'm experiencing this -- with only 19 items in my database, and  
*without* performing any searches -- i'm going to go ahead and write  
support about this issue. if i commit to yojimbo, i'll have hundreds  
of items before too long, and i'm concerned about the issue worsening  
as my database grows.


thanks,

-merv
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On May 3, 2007, at 2:07pm, Jim Correia wrote:

if you are affected by this issue please either takes Steve up on  
his offer, or write to support, so we can diagnose your specific  
problem and log a new issue about it if necessary.

Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[soundsgoodtome]

yes, i'm using .mac syncing. that is, i *plan* to. but so far, i only  
have yojimbo installed on one machine. but perhaps the app is still  
communicating with whatever data is stored on .mac. but even when  
i've made no changes to the database -- i'm just opening it to refer  
to documents within -- i get this problem. but i suppose it may still  
be comparing data. i wish it could do so without preventing us from  
interacting with the app


-merv
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On May 3, 2007, at 6:06am, Steve Kalkwarf wrote:

i'm enjoying yojimbo (still in the evaluation period), but i have  
a problem:


each time i launch yojimbo, i get the SBBOD (spinning beach ball  
of death) off and on for about a minute. during this time, it is  
very difficult (or sometimes impossible) for me to interact with  
the application. but after a minute or so, the SBB goes away, and  
i can work.


Are you using .Mac syncing? Typically this happens as Yojimbo is  
catching up with syncs that occurred in the background.


If not, write to me directly, and I have a couple questions that  
might help us narrow it down.


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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[soundsgoodtome]

thanks!
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On May 3, 2007, at 5:38am, Patrick Gilmour wrote:

I think the fix is to wait for the next version upgrade - this is a  
common problem ;-)


Hold on in there!



On May 3, 2007, at 8:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hello,

i'm enjoying yojimbo (still in the evaluation period), but i have  
a problem:


each time i launch yojimbo, i get the SBBOD (spinning beach ball  
of death) off and on for about a minute. during this time, it is  
very difficult (or sometimes impossible) for me to interact with  
the application. but after a minute or so, the SBB goes away, and  
i can work.


needless to say, this is extremely annoying. i don't launch  
yojimbo at login, so when i do launch it, that means i need to use  
it *then*. but i typically have to wait a minute or so before i can.


why is this happening? or, more specifically, how can i get it to  
*stop* happening?


-merv


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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[soundsgoodtome]

you may have a point, there. i'm one of those guys who likes to keep  
the number of items in his dock to a minimum. lol. but i can see the  
merits of keeping yojimbo open. still, i'm glad to hear that this  
issue is being investigated and addressed.  :-)

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On May 3, 2007, at 12:45pm, Patrick Gilmour wrote:


Best solution i've found is to keep Yj open at all times!


On May 3, 2007, at 15:38 PM, Steven Fernandez wrote:

Same here and my DB is really not very big. Very annoying when you  
are on the phone and somebody wants to give you some info you want  
to jot down quickly.


Steven



On May 3, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Patrick Gilmour wrote:


Mine too - I heard this was a database issue that needed fixing.


On May 3, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Garlock wrote:

My SBBOD usually appears shortly after I launch, and start a  
search.



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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Jim Correia]

On May 3, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Kenneth Kirksey wrote:


On May 3, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Steven Fernandez wrote:

Same here and my DB is really not very big. Very annoying when you  
are on the phone and somebody wants to give you some info you want  
to jot down quickly.


If you have the unsorted items and untagged items smart collections  
active, you might try turning those off. They use pretty expensive  
queries.


While it is correct that Untagged Items and Unsorted Items use  
relatively expensive queries, I'd be surprised to find out that this  
was the cause of a minute startup delay for modest database sizes.


Rather than second guessing what may be going on, if you are affected  
by this issue please either takes Steve up on his offer, or write to  
support, so we can diagnose your specific problem and log a new issue  
about it if necessary.


It is not necessary to write to us about a delay after your initial  
search. (We are aware of the problem and are working on a solution.)


Jim


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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Kenneth Kirksey]

On May 3, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Steven Fernandez wrote:

Same here and my DB is really not very big. Very annoying when you  
are on the phone and somebody wants to give you some info you want  
to jot down quickly.


If you have the unsorted items and untagged items smart collections  
active, you might try turning those off. They use pretty expensive  
queries.




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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Patrick Gilmour]

Best solution i've found is to keep Yj open at all times!


On May 3, 2007, at 15:38 PM, Steven Fernandez wrote:

Same here and my DB is really not very big. Very annoying when you  
are on the phone and somebody wants to give you some info you want  
to jot down quickly.


Steven



On May 3, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Patrick Gilmour wrote:


Mine too - I heard this was a database issue that needed fixing.


On May 3, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Garlock wrote:


My SBBOD usually appears shortly after I launch, and start a search.



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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Steven Fernandez]

Same here and my DB is really not very big. Very annoying when you  
are on the phone and somebody wants to give you some info you want to  
jot down quickly.


Steven



On May 3, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Patrick Gilmour wrote:


Mine too - I heard this was a database issue that needed fixing.


On May 3, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Garlock wrote:


My SBBOD usually appears shortly after I launch, and start a search.



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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Patrick Gilmour]

Mine too - I heard this was a database issue that needed fixing.


On May 3, 2007, at 9:16 AM, Bruce Garlock wrote:


My SBBOD usually appears shortly after I launch, and start a search.



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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Bruce Garlock]

On May 3, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Steve Kalkwarf wrote:



In that case, I can assure you we're working on it.

As a stopgap, if you can reduce the search to Name (or anything  
that isn't Contents) you'll see a huge improvement.




Usually, it will only let me get in about three letters, before I get  
the SBBOD, and then it takes about 30-45 seconds, and everything  
seems fine.  I also notice a lot of memory being sucked up when this  
happens, so it must be loading a lot into memory.


Thanks for addressing this.  I don't know what I would do without  
Yojimbo, and knowing that small issues like this are being worked on  
is even better :-)


Thank you,

Bruce

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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Steve Kalkwarf]

My SBBOD usually appears shortly after I launch, and start a search.


In that case, I can assure you we're working on it.

As a stopgap, if you can reduce the search to Name (or anything 
that isn't Contents) you'll see a huge improvement.


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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Bruce Garlock]

On May 3, 2007, at 9:06 AM, Steve Kalkwarf wrote:



Are you using .Mac syncing? Typically this happens as Yojimbo is  
catching up with syncs that occurred in the background.


If not, write to me directly, and I have a couple questions that  
might help us narrow it down.





My SBBOD usually appears shortly after I launch, and start a search. 
 


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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Steve Kalkwarf]

i'm enjoying yojimbo (still in the evaluation period), but i have a problem:

each time i launch yojimbo, i get the SBBOD (spinning beach 
ball of death) off and on for about a minute. during this time, 
it is very difficult (or sometimes impossible) for me to 
interact with the application. but after a minute or so, the 
SBB goes away, and i can work.


Are you using .Mac syncing? Typically this happens as Yojimbo is 
catching up with syncs that occurred in the background.


If not, write to me directly, and I have a couple questions that 
might help us narrow it down.


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Steve Kalkwarf
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Bruce Garlock]

I have this problem as well, so it will certainly be a welcome fix.

- Bruce


On May 3, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Patrick Gilmour wrote:

I think the fix is to wait for the next version upgrade - this is a  
common problem ;-)


Hold on in there!



On May 3, 2007, at 8:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hello,

i'm enjoying yojimbo (still in the evaluation period), but i have  
a problem:


each time i launch yojimbo, i get the SBBOD (spinning beach ball  
of death) off and on for about a minute. during this time, it is  
very difficult (or sometimes impossible) for me to interact with  
the application. but after a minute or so, the SBB goes away, and  
i can work.


needless to say, this is extremely annoying. i don't launch  
yojimbo at login, so when i do launch it, that means i need to use  
it *then*. but i typically have to wait a minute or so before i can.


why is this happening? or, more specifically, how can i get it to  
*stop* happening?


-merv



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Re: SBBOD when Yojimbo launches

[Patrick Gilmour]

I think the fix is to wait for the next version upgrade - this is a  
common problem ;-)


Hold on in there!



On May 3, 2007, at 8:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hello,

i'm enjoying yojimbo (still in the evaluation period), but i have a  
problem:


each time i launch yojimbo, i get the SBBOD (spinning beach ball of  
death) off and on for about a minute. during this time, it is very  
difficult (or sometimes impossible) for me to interact with the  
application. but after a minute or so, the SBB goes away, and i can  
work.


needless to say, this is extremely annoying. i don't launch yojimbo  
at login, so when i do launch it, that means i need to use it  
*then*. but i typically have to wait a minute or so before i can.


why is this happening? or, more specifically, how can i get it to  
*stop* happening?


-merv

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