RE: [Zappa-List] Re: 40th anniversary of Zappa's albums
No, here in the UK there's a lovely chap called Dave at a place called G&S Music (www.gandsmusic.com) who specialise in Zappa and I just drop him an e-mail and say 'when it turns up send me one' and then I don't have to think about anything ever again - and I support a fellow one Englishman small business type thing at the same time... Ashley. From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of zav_sto Sent: 07 November 2008 04:06 To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: 40th anniversary of Zappa's albums Ashley: I've got my copy reserved already. Bri: Did you do that at zappa.com Ashley?
[Zappa-List] Re: 40th anniversary of Zappa's albums
Ashley: I've got my copy reserved already. Bri: Did you do that at zappa.com Ashley? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I read the same interview as Bri, where Gail says: "These two records happen to be Frank's masterworks," Zappa tells Billboard.com, "so this is the most ambitious of all the (40th anniversary) projects. The challenge is how to educate the audience to understand what 'Lumpy Gravy' and 'We're Only in It for the Money' are, and what they're part of. "So in this particular case we have to be more about the process than the outtakes. You're going to be listening to how Frank worked, all the little developments of these pieces as opposed to just an outtake or another performance of that particular piece. You're going to hear how he got there from here." which did suggest it wasn't going to be outtakes and such - it sounds like maybe it's incomplete outtakes - examples or something... We'll just have to wait and hear what it's *actually* all about - whatever it turns out to include (besides the obvious) I've got my copy reserved already. Ashley www.afharrold.co.uk From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of zav_sto Sent: 06 November 2008 21:37 To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: 40th anniversary of Zappa's albums >> I saw the opposite stated, that outtakes wouldn't be on the set. > > Well, this is what the press release says: > http://www.shorefire.com/index.php?a=pressrelease <http://www.shorefire.com/index.php?a=pressrelease&o=2388> &o=2388 OK, here's the interview I read. http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp? vnu_content_id=1003876040 I guess I misinterpreted Gail's line "we have to be more about the process than the outtakes" <><>
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In a message dated 11/6/2008 3:57:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I saw the opposite stated, that outtakes wouldn't be on the set. Well, this is what the press release says: _http://www.shorefirhttp://www.shttp://www.shoreht&o=2388_ (http://www.shorefire.com/index.php?a=pressrelease&o=2388) Noticed in the press release that David Fricke from Rolling Stone will be contributing liner notes, which I think is cool. He appeared in the Overnite/Apostrophe "Classic Albums" DVD and did some liner notes for the MOFO set, as well. Wonder when it was exactly that he got in touch with ZFT or vice versa and started getting involved in these projects. I've read his writing and stuff here and there for some years and never really knew he was much interested in Zappa before seeing him on that DVD. --Milhouse **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001)
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>> I saw the opposite stated, that outtakes wouldn't be on the set. > > Well, this is what the press release says: > http://www.shorefire.com/index.php?a=pressrelease&o=2388 OK, here's the interview I read. http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp? vnu_content_id=1003876040 I guess I misinterpreted Gail's line "we have to be more about the process than the outtakes" For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> I saw the opposite stated, that outtakes wouldn't be on the set. Well, this is what the press release says: http://www.shorefire.com/index.php?a=pressrelease&o=2388 best wishes, Marco For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Marco: The press release clearly states that "The project is devoted to various mixes, outtakes & materials dating from the original sessions & time period for both recordings". So yes, there will be outtakes and other related stuff recorded around the same time, just like on the MOFO-set. Bri: I saw the opposite stated, that outtakes wouldn't be on the set. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> Lumpy Gravy and the Capitol Lumpy Gravy clock in at around 59 minutes, > and the 2 mixes of Money at 67 minutes. So why the third CD for Lumpy > Money? It would be nice if the third CD contained the 1980s mixes of > Lumpy and Money with bass and drum overdubs (so far there is no solid > evidence that an entire Lumpy exists with the 1980s overdubs, tho). > That would be better than three foreshortened CDs. I don't think you'll need to worry about that. The press release clearly states that "The project is devoted to various mixes, outtakes & materials dating from the original sessions & time period for both recordings". So yes, there will be outtakes and other related stuff recorded around the same time, just like on the MOFO-set. Best wishes, Marco For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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In a message dated 11/5/2008 11:18:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...uhh, not to be redundant, but I must ask---are these available at Barfko-Swill?...uhh Haven't been released (and, I'm assuming, not even completed) yet. --Milhouse **AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear0001)
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...uhh, not to be redundant, but I must ask---are these available at Barfko-Swill?--JGiK - Original Message - From: zav_sto To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:53 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: 40th anniversary of Zappa's albums >The "Lumpy Money" package will feature two separate mixes of each album Bri: Lumpy Gravy and the Capitol Lumpy Gravy clock in at around 59 minutes, and the 2 mixes of Money at 67 minutes. So why the third CD for Lumpy Money? It would be nice if the third CD contained the 1980s mixes of Lumpy and Money with bass and drum overdubs (so far there is no solid evidence that an entire Lumpy exists with the 1980s overdubs, tho). That would be better than three foreshortened CDs. >So in this particular case we have to be more about the process than the outtakes. You're going to be listening to how Frank worked, all the little developments of these pieces as opposed to just an outtake or another performance of that particular piece. You're going to hear how he got there from here. >a "sister" project will be released shortly after "Lumpy Money" that will contain more music from those sessions. Bri: I assume the "sister" project will be outtakes or other performances then, seeing as how there won't be any on Lumpy Money? Perhaps an expanded Mothermania? The Money Demos? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1765 - Release Date: 11/3/2008 4:59 PM
[Zappa-List] Re: 40th anniversary of Zappa's albums
>The "Lumpy Money" package will feature two separate mixes of each album Bri: Lumpy Gravy and the Capitol Lumpy Gravy clock in at around 59 minutes, and the 2 mixes of Money at 67 minutes. So why the third CD for Lumpy Money? It would be nice if the third CD contained the 1980s mixes of Lumpy and Money with bass and drum overdubs (so far there is no solid evidence that an entire Lumpy exists with the 1980s overdubs, tho). That would be better than three foreshortened CDs. >So in this particular case we have to be more about the process than the outtakes. You're going to be listening to how Frank worked, all the little developments of these pieces as opposed to just an outtake or another performance of that particular piece. You're going to hear how he got there from here. >a "sister" project will be released shortly after "Lumpy Money" that will contain more music from those sessions. Bri: I assume the "sister" project will be outtakes or other performances then, seeing as how there won't be any on Lumpy Money? Perhaps an expanded Mothermania? The Money Demos? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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A pain in the Talin perhaps...? --- On Wed, 10/22/08, Dawayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Dawayne Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: 40th anniversary of Zappa's albums To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 11:07 AM --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Milhouse481@ ... wrote: > > Could be that there wasn't a sufficient amount of material in the vault > related to the creation of that album, but I guess it's hard to know > unless Gail or Joe gives a specific answer about that at some point. "Say it ain't so, Joe" damnFrank would have had a heyday with flailin' Palin. Take the L out of Palin and she's a pain in the
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--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Could be that there wasn't a sufficient amount of material in the vault > related to the creation of that album, but I guess it's hard to know > unless Gail or Joe gives a specific answer about that at some point. "Say it ain't so, Joe"damnFrank would have had a heyday with flailin' Palin. Take the L out of Palin and she's a pain in the For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Eddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "These two records happen to be Frank's masterworks," Zappa tells Billboard, "so this is the most ambitious of all the (40th anniversary) projects. I've been reading this comment in the various articles online and find it kind of 'thin' to believe that those 2 were his ultimate "masterworks". Knowing the whole "Conceptual Continuity" theme from FZ's entire body of work, for me it's all one big giant masterwork with some moments being more masterful than others. Lather (Greggary Peccary), Roxy & Elsewhere, Absolutely Free belongs in the trilogy of Lumpy Money for my...money. Uncle Meat, Waka Jawaka/Grand Wazoo, Overnite/Apostrophe, One Size, Jazz From Hell, all the 88 stuff (Broadway, Jazz Noise, Best Band), Yellow Shark, etcall masterworks. The modern day version of We're Only In It being Tinseltown/You Are What You Is. Anyway, I'm just blabbin'. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Could be that there wasn't a sufficient amount of material in the vault related to the creation of that album, but I guess it's hard to know unless Gail or Joe gives a specific answer about that at some point. --Milhouse -Original Message- From: Steve Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: No Reply Sent: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 8:18 am Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: 40th anniversary of Zappa's albums This is great news! But what happened to the 40th anniversary of Absolutely Free? That should come out before these.. Steve For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> This is great news! But what happened to the 40th anniversary of > Absolutely Free? That should come out before these.. Apparently there's no - or not much - extra material left from the Absolutely Free sessions. We should remember that this album was done relatively quick and cheap, after the double album extravaganza of Freak Out. I would still welcome a remastered CD edition with both mono and stereo versions though... best wishes, Marco Kalnenek http://www.weirdomusic.com Weirdomusic.com PO Box 26 6400 AA Heerlen The Netherlands [EMAIL PROTECTED] For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Yeah, I thought they skipped one, which you'd hardly expect given the ZFT penchant for squeezing every cent out of us by issuing two versions of every release each with exclusive material. Just imagine the marketing potential of two different Lather 40th anniversary boxes! David See my profile at http://www.myspace.com/davidblanglois or http://www.youtube.com/dblspace -Original Message- From: Steve Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: No Reply Sent: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 6:18 am Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: 40th anniversary of Zappa's albums This is great news! But what happened to the 40th anniversary of Absolutely Free? That should come out before these.. Steve Steve Marshall Editor - The Night Owl [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Member - National Music Critics Association -- The best place on the web for music reviews
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This is great news! But what happened to the 40th anniversary of Absolutely Free? That should come out before these.. Steve Steve Marshall Editor - The Night Owl [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Member - National Music Critics Association - The best place on the web for music reviews For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> The Zappa Family Trust will kick off a comprehensive campaign to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the > late Frank Zappa's albums next month. Two words: Wowie Zowie! I'm really looking forward to these releases. Thanks for posting, Marco http://www.weirdomusic.com Weirdomusic.com PO Box 26 6400 AA Heerlen The Netherlands [EMAIL PROTECTED] For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you.Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
