[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** No longer affects: null -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in Unity: Invalid Status in Unity Files Lens: Invalid Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Fix Released Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/612344/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Branch linked: lp:~zeitgeist-packagers/zeitgeist/debian -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Invalid Status in Unity: Invalid Status in Unity Files Place: Invalid Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Fix Committed Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Changed in: null Status: Triaged = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Invalid Status in Unity: Invalid Status in Unity Files Place: Invalid Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Fix Committed Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Branch unlinked: lp:~manishsinha/zeitgeist/fix-blacklist-api ** Branch linked: lp:~manishsinha/zeitgeist/new-blacklist-implementation -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity: Invalid Status in Unity Files Place: Invalid Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Changed in: unity-place-files Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Changed in: unity Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Changed in: unity-place-files (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity: Invalid Status in Unity Files Place: Invalid Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Changed in: unity Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: unity-place-files (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Changed in: zeitgeist Milestone: 0.7.0 = 0.8.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
After re-reading this bugreport, the discussion it includes and the merge proposal, I'm still not confident that the API which is proposed here is good enough. This is why I started working on a blacklist API spec. It is still work in progress, and I'm not sure if this points in the right direction (comments are welcome) but I at least have a good feeling. current version is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551001/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
On 6 January 2011 10:43, Markus Korn thek...@gmx.de wrote: After re-reading this bugreport, the discussion it includes and the merge proposal, I'm still not confident that the API which is proposed here is good enough. This is why I started working on a blacklist API spec. It is still work in progress, and I'm not sure if this points in the right direction (comments are welcome) but I at least have a good feeling. current version is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/551001/ I think there is some good stuff in there Markus, however I'm not entirely sold on the regex idea for lookups. I'd rather that we just support the same globbing semantics as we do for event templates; ie prefix-! for negation and postfix-* for truncation. I guess * will be the most common case. Not allowing general regexes also motivates app authors to choose more compatible blacklist ids. Ie, we'll be unlikely to see: org.gnome.bookmarksepiphany org.gnome.downloadsepiphany but we encourage something like: org.gnome.epiphany.bookmarks org.gnome.epiphany.downloads -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Seif Lotfy 612...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: While I actually like Markus's proposal alot (kudos on the awesome work) I am kind of hesitant on the BlacklistTemplateIdentifier. I feel more comfortable using an identifier like actor/#uid as in application://firefox.desktop/porn. This allows us to easily trace where the blacklist came from. I guess BlacklistTemplateIdentifier identifies a blacklist template instead of where it came from. I don't agree on this, ANy blacklist template is a event at the end of the day, so will have ID set which can be used as identifier. Tracing which applications set the application makes sense. We don't need application://firefox.desktop/porn Why? Identifiers should be atomic if possible. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
My first idea related to RegEx based matches was that I thought we need something very powerful there. But maybe I'm wrong, So I'm happy to change my proposal there and only allow prefix-search and negation. And if we need something more powerful later on we can always change it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
@Siegfried, how do you want to identify a template in the collection of all templates, for example, what do you propose as an argument for the RemoveTemplate() method? Do you want automatically generated identifier (e.g. auto-integer-id, maybe in combination with sender string)? or do you have a system in mind which does not use identifiers at all? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Changed in: zeitgeist Status: Triaged = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 Title: Blacklist API sucks Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: In Progress Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
So the final consensus is that the parameter s is any randomly chosen
identifier for an application.
* GetBlacklists() - ({sE})
* AddBlacklist(sE) -- Changed(sE)
* RemoveBlacklist(sE) -- Changed(sE)
I changed the name to Blacklist instead of Template for the method names
as it sounds better and is more clear
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Bug description:
Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an
asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on!
How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd
be actually usable...
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Project changed: unity = null -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in NULL Project: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
Let 'E' define the event dbus signature.
Methods:
- GetTemplates() - ({sE})
- AddTemplate(s, E)
- RemoveTemplate(s)
Signals:
- Changed({sE})
Apps would use their normal namespaced bus names to construct blacklist
names.
Like 'org.gnome.Epiphany.PrivateBrowsing' for the blacklist template epiphany
install when you enter private mode.
I was looking at this bug today and wanted to clarify some points.
1) s = 'org.gnome.Epiphany.PrivateBrowsing' ??
2) So ({sE}) means each blacklist template associated with the
application which set it
3) RemoveTemplate(s) would clear all the blacklists set by an
application. Should not it be RemoveTemplate(s, E) or RemoveTemplate(s,
{E}) meaning clearing more than one event template at a time
4) Similarly, how about AddTemplate(s, {E}) meaning adding more than one
template at a time
Have some more doubts on Changed() but will ask them after these 4
doubts are cleared.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Changed in: zeitgeist Milestone: 0.7.0 = None -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Unity: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
** Changed in: unity Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: unity Importance: Undecided = Low ** Also affects: unity-place-files Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: unity-place-files Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: unity-place-files Status: New = Triaged -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Unity: Triaged Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
At some point people will need to blacklist over Unity. I think that should be taken in consideration in the new design and development cycle. Example: What if I don't want my .py files to show up in Unity ** Also affects: unity Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Unity: New Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
with only a week left and no decision on the development method and API I postponed the bug to 0.7 ** Changed in: zeitgeist Milestone: 0.6 = 0.7 -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
thekorn it sucks, maybe. but do we need a new API for this, that's what I'm not sure about seiflotfy thekorn, u can see mhr3 and kamstrup got into the details of it seiflotfy they wrote the whoel api actually m4n1sh_ seiflotfy: look into #ubuntu-classroom * mvo has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) RainCT thekorn: what we should really add is AddBlacklistRule and DeleteBlacklistRule thekorn RainCT: yeah, thekorn after reading this bug, I tend to agree that we need some changes thekorn mikkel's proposal seems close to perfect to me thekorn so, whoever what's to work on it, should start with some paperwork, thekorn we are not ready to do the implementation yet seiflotfy thekorn, AFAIK m4n1sh is on it seiflotfy thekorn, also m4n1sh will do the implementation of it and propose it for merge seiflotfy he is very good with python seiflotfy maybe better than you :P m4n1sh_ seiflotfy: dont set the expectations too high thekorn I'm sure he is. seiflotfy m4n1sh, its marketing :P m4n1sh_ yeah. I was going through the code. The progress is slow as I am also on zg-sharp packaging and fixing the issues with meebey thekorn but I would like to design it properly first, thekorn to avoid extra roubndtrips of work m4n1sh_ thekorn: sure! m4n1sh_ seiflotfy: fuck man. OMG question on #ubuntu-classroom seiflotfy thekorn, lets use the first draft from mikkel m4n1sh_ seiflotfy: over to classroom thekorn seiflotfy: why? thekorn does it cover all possible usecases of the blacklist feature * RainCT doesn't like kamstrup's proposal of having names for them seiflotfy RainCT, why not thekorn haha, that's actually the only thing I *like* about this proposal ;) seiflotfy thekorn, +1 RainCT because it's not necessary and may cause conflicts between apps who have the same rule with different names (so one says it's enabled and another one it isn't) m4n1sh_ thekorn: RainCT seiflotfy I like kamstrup idea seiflotfy thekorn, whats up we have been getting along much better lately seiflotfy we tend to agree on stuff seiflotfy that is new to me RainCT what could be nice is a free form string for users to write their own name/description for the rule and maybe a boolean to enable/disable it (although i'm not sure if this later thing should really be in ZG or be a GUI thing) thekorn RainCT: if we set a naming convention, which is clearly defined somewhere, than it should be perfectly ok RainCT no, there is no naming convention for blacklists thekorn say who? thekorn says RainCT Me. thekorn ah ok. RainCT The Blacklist Management GUI would just resort to using unique IDs for user-defined stuff, which would be completely meaningless. thekorn in fact, in mikkels proposal the names are free form strings * meebey leaves work RainCT And the private browsing example isn't something which should be handled by blacklist but by the epiphany plugin itself RainCT and if you want to disable it centralized you can do it over the DataSourceRegistry and then the epiphany plugin is told it's been disabled thekorn ok, as you can all see, there needs to be alot of discussion RainCT ^^ thekorn so I don't expect we can do a change of the BL API until end of this year thekorn and as it seems that people consider the BL featur as important seiflotfy thekorn, we can work it off iteratively in a private branch thekorn people == our user seiflotfy until we feel comfortable with it seiflotfy so maybe wokring on ti now is a good idea * kep (~...@78.90.207.121) has joined #zeitgeist RainCT So this will be the new Origin discussion, until I get tired of it and say do whatever you want and we have the ORM experience all over again? * RainCT hides kep hi thekorn RainCT: that's exactly the problem RainCT Hey kep kep I am new to IRC chat thekorn hi kep kep can you tell me iz this a zeitgeist chat room kep and where are you from if so thekorn RainCT: and this is why the approach code until noone complains is bad RainCT kep: Yes, but another Zeitgeist (http://zeitgeist-project.com/) seiflotfy thekorn, actually i dont mind it kep can you give me more info kep I am from Bulagaria kep and I am just finding some info on IRC so I can find ppl seiflotfy thekorn, well having some code that is better than the current one is always an option seiflotfy i think we know what we have now is not working seiflotfy and what kamstrup suggested is a better solution although not perfect thekorn seiflotfy: but we are not there yet to understand what is better seiflotfy with the high demand i think its clear we need to work on it seiflotfy and working code samples is never a bad idea seiflotfy AFAIK you are more convinced when you see working code thekorn I disagree seiflotfy thekorn, explain please thekorn design happens on paper, and not in code thekorn and it's about designing a feature thekorn seiflotfy: please remember all the wiki work, over weeks which was done by us to define our current DBUS api thekorn the only thing which speeded things up was the in person meeting of us at the hackfest
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
If we had huge number of blacklists. This can be possible since people don't want fine grained privacy. We can set the default modes and give them option. E.g. For chrome, we will log all the events in normal browsing and no logging in incognito mode. Additionally people sometimes watch pr0n in normal mode too and would like to block the logging based on a list of websites (app adult based). So I recommend,one more methods Search(E) Additionally, does s stand for the application's D-Bus signature? I got a bit confused -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
Meh, type in last comment scrap This can be possible since people don't want fine grained privacy I meant This can be possible since many people do want fine grained privacy -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
Go Manish! Go Manish! Its your birthday :P (please ignore this comment) ** Changed in: zeitgeist Assignee: Seif Lotfy (seif) = Manish Sinha (manishsinha) -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
2010/9/10 Manish Sinha 612...@bugs.launchpad.net: Will this clear all the blacklists? I just want to remove one specific blacklist Ask for the list of blacklisting rules, remove the one you don't want from it, and set it again (with that rule removed). -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
@Manish: Right, that will clear all blacklists I am afraid. Which is also partially why we have this bug open to come up with something which is easier for apps to handle. -- Blacklist API sucks https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/612344 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Bug description: Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on! How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd be actually usable... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
On 5 August 2010 23:04, Siegfried Gevatter rai...@ubuntu.com wrote: 2010/8/5 Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen mikkel.kamst...@gmail.com: Apps would use their normal namespaced bus names to construct blacklist names. Like 'org.gnome.Epiphany.PrivateBrowsing' for the blacklist template epiphany install when you enter private mode. Why would it use blacklisting for that? The extension should just stop sending events. Because it's mode complex that way? ;-) The other reason would be that you could have third party apps easily control the privacy mode. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 612344] Re: Blacklist API sucks
So if we have 10 clients monitoring the blacklist the daemon it will
result in 10 GetTemplates() calls on the bus? ;-) How about putting the
new list of templates in the Changed() signal? That way there'll be no
extra noise on the buzz when the list changes.
Anyway, I am still not entirely convinced about this API. I think
clients need a way to identify which blacklists come from where. I think
maybe a naming scheme would provide a better API. Like fx:
Let 'E' define the event dbus signature.
Methods:
- GetTemplates() - ({sE})
- AddTemplate(s, E)
- RemoveTemplate(s)
Signals:
- Changed({sE})
Apps would use their normal namespaced bus names to construct blacklist
names. Like 'org.gnome.Epiphany.PrivateBrowsing' for the blacklist
template epiphany install when you enter private mode.
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Blacklist API sucks
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Guys, GetBlacklist and SetBlacklist (without any signals) for an
asynchrounous-by-nature API? Come on!
How about changing it to Get, Add, Remove and a changed signal? That way it'd
be actually usable...
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