Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-28 Thread Morten Mjelva
I think it's mostly about what type of message we send people, and how we're perceived. Now that we're also in KDE, and looking at other platforms besides that as well, it looks strange for us to be in the GNOME namespace. On 26 November 2010 23:12, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen

Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-28 Thread Seif Lotfy
Morten we should not break our current clients to satisfy upcoming clients... I know it seems weird but I think they can live with it since it just a freaking namespace. I could call it org.hunannyyumyum.Zeitgeist and it should not matter :) On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Morten Mjelva

Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-28 Thread Morten Mjelva
Dude, what the hell? You were the one who asked me to submit this proposal. Make up your mind. On 28 November 2010 16:24, Seif Lotfy 681...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Morten we should not break our current clients to satisfy upcoming clients... I know it seems weird but I think they can live

Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-28 Thread Seif Lotfy
The submission is to have the whole team discuss. I dont take the decision. On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Morten Mjelva 681...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: Dude, what the hell? You were the one who asked me to submit this proposal. Make up your mind. On 28 November 2010 16:24, Seif Lotfy

Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-28 Thread Morten Mjelva
I think mhr3's suggestion about using two namespaces for a while is a good solution. If we keep our existing gnome namespace, but deprecate it, and at the same time move to freedesktop for 0.7, we could remove the gnome namespace in some later release. On 28 November 2010 17:17, Seif Lotfy

Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-28 Thread Seif Lotfy
I agree with that approach Maybe we can do that over the next 3 releases. So for natty we will have 2 namespaces while for natty+1 we will have only one On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Morten Mjelva 681...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: I think mhr3's suggestion about using two namespaces for a

Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-28 Thread Siegfried Gevatter
I'm with Mikkel. -- Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/681887 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug

[Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-28 Thread Markus Korn
I don't agree with changing the namepsace for dbus names. There is simply no good reason why we should make this move. After all the gnome part is just a random string. And noone on KDE, Windows or whatever platform should have a problem using this string. Changing the name, maybe by even using

[Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-28 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Marking as wontfix since this seems to be the consensus of a majority of the maintainers ** Changed in: zeitgeist Status: New = Won't Fix -- Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/681887 You received this bug notification because you are

[Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-26 Thread Manish Sinha
I don't think it is any more possible (if yes, then very tough). It might break nearly all the applications. Fixing them would be a huge pain and someone needs to track all such instances. -- Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/681887 You

[Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-26 Thread Manish Sinha
I don't have any problems with moving to freedesktop dbus name as long as it does not break things. If it doesn't I don't have any objections to anything. -- Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/681887 You received this bug notification because

Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-26 Thread Morten Mjelva
There's no need to actually move our code and infrastructure to freedesktop.org hosting in order to be an official freedesktop project. We can certainly keep our code on Launchpad if we want to do that. Additionally, we're definitely in freedesktop.org's target audience, so it shouldn't be

[Zeitgeist] [Bug 681887] Re: Moving Zeitgeist dbus Bus name from gnome to Freedesktop

2010-11-26 Thread Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen
Honestly I don't see what good this bring us except breakage of existing libs. We could own two names, but that just seems silly. Application authors should never need to see these namespaces. And it's a *namespace* nothing more. I'm quite sure distributors and ISVs can see past this. FWIW