Re: Antwort: [Zen] Six Dimensions For Each Encounter
Hi Heshou, Kai, The Six Dimensions For Ten Thousand Deeds. 六度萬行 -- 布施，持戒，忍辱，精進，禪定，智慧 To grow our Lotus, we must get our feet wet in the mud. A clean bottle of water, such as sitting at home, provides no mud. In Chan however, it is simpler in concept. It is 離相修行，佛心印心。 Detach from all forms. Sync heart to heart. Therefore we live every moment with Pure Heart, Equal Mind, Harmonious Spirit. 清凈心，平等心，和諧心。 You see, no mention of any FORM. Thank you for asking. JM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Jue-Miao, Could I ask you to post us the six dimensions in Chinese as well? I would enjoy looking at the Chinese text, too, when sitting at my office. Heshou, Kai Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 [EMAIL PROTECTED] An com [EMAIL PROTECTED]ps.com Gesendet von: Kopie [EMAIL PROTECTED] oups.com Thema [Zen] Six Dimensions For Each Encounter 23.06.2008 19:32 Bitte antworten an [EMAIL PROTECTED] oups.com Hi Al, Six Act Of Perfection is a term translated by western zen/buddhism. I would translate them differently from the original Chinese text. I would translate the title to be "Six Dimenions For Each Encounter" These are six guidelines for us whenever we encounters some incident or someone. Not six steps, but six simultaneous dimensions for actions and mindset. 1. Be helpful - offer to help/resolve/satisfy as our first act, before our judgment/assumptions take over. 2. Be respectful - act on a equal basis with discipline and best foot forward. 3. Be patient - give time for each to resolve without hurrying time itself. 4. Be committed - firm on our intentions and actions to learn from this encounter. 5. Be still - not be affected by its outcome and without any expectation. 6. Seek wisdom - absorb the wisdom and move on. These are just personal interpretation which could be different from the mainstream of Buddhist teaching. In short, just throw away the labels and concept, and live with our best foot forward would be enough to transform our lives for the true, equal and the beautiful. JM . (Embedded image moved to file: pic26500.gif) __._,_.___ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[Zen] Any ideas what this means?
I was trying to remember a very old chant that I was given over twenty years ago, but the only thing that popped in my mind was this phrase: O ahm naya bendigo. I don't even know if it actually means anything or if it's just gibberish. What makes a chant authentic? Does it depend on where the source is or how it comes to us? Or is it all BS? Cynth Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zen] Any ideas what this means?
It sounded like, "Om, Ma, Ni, Pei, Mi, Hom." A purification chant in Sanskrit. In our practice, if you focus on "Heart Chakra, root chakra, Sacrum chakra, kidney chakra, wisdom chakra, Zen chakra" as per each sound. Loop them into an Chi channel. Keep it at a steady pace and within 10 minutes, you shall witness its power. Nothing is BS, some more complete, some not. That's how the form world is. Heart and only the heart knows the truth. JM Cynth-Graphic Significance Music wrote: I was trying to remember a very old chant that I was given over twenty years ago, but the only thing that popped in my mind was this phrase: "O ahm naya bendigo." I don't even know if it actually means anything or if it's just gibberish. What makes a chant authentic? Does it depend on where the source is or how it comes to us? Or is it all BS? Cynth __._,_.___ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
Re: [Zen] Any ideas what this means?
From: Cynth-Graphic Significance Music I was trying to remember a very old chant that I was given over twenty years ago, but the only thing that popped in my mind was this phrase: O ahm naya bendigo. If you are talking about the old hippie chant, Om Nom Myo Renge Kyu or something like that. Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Zen] Aging Mother
V, I sympathize with you. I too have an ailing mother, and an ailing father. They are 91 and 92 respectively. My mother has Alzheimer's and is slowly slipping into some indescribable black hole. My father has lymphoma and a heart condition caused by his chemo treatments. There are times when I'm overwhelmed by the 'poor, poor, pitiful me' tape playing in my mind because of the burden they are for me and the restrictions their care places on me. During these times I allow myself to feel sorry for myself and even become depressed. I know that will pass. When it does pass, sometimes not for a couple days, I return to living my life a moment at a time. When I do that I am comforted to realize again that WHAT I'm doing is not important. WHERE I'm doing it is not important. WHAT I COULD BE DOING is not important. The only important thing is HOW I'm doing what I'm doing now - the QUALITY I put into every task, no matter how small and insignificant, or seemingly useless (like trying to talk your mom into going to the doctor), or how many times I've done the task before. There is only NOW, and you are only doing THIS. So do it the best you can. Do it with you whole being. This is your life. Live it to the fullest, with the most quality. This is zen. .Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of v Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:36 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Aging Mother My mother is getting very frail. She has back problems. She does not want to go to the doctor. She rarely follows any advice. If I pester her enough, I may get some response in terms of her seeing a doctor. However, I honestly do not want to put the energy into her and her problems any more. She is like an energy vampire. I love her, but I get so much more positive from spending the same time and energy with my daughter or doing something else. I love my mother, but I do not think she should expect me to beg her to see her doctor. I also do not think that she should put the blame on others for her decisions not to go to the doctor. It is hard to explain, but basically it all comes back to me, and I am tired of it. In the end, she does whatever she wants regardless of how much anyone pleads with her to do the right thing. She seems to enjoy having the power to ignore medical opinions and endanger her health. I love her, but I am tired of her bullshit. I feel sad that I do not care more. I don't know. I know I will miss her when she dies. She could have done so much more to improve her health and to stay alive. She did not want to, and that makes me feel sad. __ NOD32 3216 (20080625) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com
RE: [Zen] Buddha Nature (was: Practice, Psychosis and the Human)
Kai, I don’t recall a similar thread, but I might have missed it. I was very busy working about 6 months ago and was distracted to the point of not keeping up with all the postings on Yahoo! Zen Forum. If you want to thank someone for resurrecting this topic, thank Philomonk (Philosopher-Monk?). He’s yet to respond to my posting, but I invite him to also respond to this one. Before I start I want to make it very clear that Joshu did indeed completely respond to ALL questions about Buddha Nature in his laser reply ‘Mu!’. All of these things we’re discussing are just intellectual masturbation, rhetorical Sudoku – based entirely on manufactured human concepts, much like dreams or the shadows on the wall of Plato’s cave. They are all fantasies, little more than dreams. They really have nothing to do at all with Buddha Nature and in many cases only serve mislead. They are overflowing tea in your teacup. Now that I’ve warned you that the cakes I’m about to offer are dusty, tasteless and may make you sick (an Al analogy), I’ll serve you up a generous portion of them. Eat them at your peril. The phrase we’re trying to analyze is ‘it depends on YOU (the observer) if a being has Buddha Nature or not’. The first thing that jumps out at me in this phrase are the terms ‘you’, ‘observer’ and ‘being’. They are support a dualistic view of reality. If there is a ‘you’, then there is a ‘not-you’. If there is an ‘observer’, then there is an object, something that is separate from the observer that is being observed. ‘Being’ also seems to refer to some ‘other being’, perhaps the object being observed by the observer, which again supports a dualistic view. As already discussed, ‘Buddha Nature’ is a manufactured human concept, an illusion. So, what I interpret this phrase to mean is: If you are operating in a dualistic mode then there is a ‘you’ separate from everything else, like other ‘beings’. This ‘you’ creates concepts, like ‘Buddha Nature’. Since it is ‘you’ that creates this concept, it is also entirely up to ‘you’ to assign the existence of this concept in an ‘other being’. So I guess the statement is correct in its own context. But now that you’ve read all this intellectual gibberish and the dusty cakes sit heavy in your stomach, doesn’t Joshu’s ‘Mu!’ seem much more elegant and to the point? …Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:28 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Buddha Nature (was: Practice, Psychosis and the Human) Bill, Thank you for taking up this topic again. I remember we had a similar thread some time (half a year?) ago. I tried to look it up the other day but did not find it any more. There was one post the author of which wrote that it depended on you (the observer) if a being had the Buddha nature or not. This surprised me very much and I would be thankful for some clarification. Gasshoo / Heshou, Kai
Re: [Zen] Any ideas what this means?
No, not really. Cynth On Jun 25, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Al wrote: From: Cynth-Graphic Significance Music I was trying to remember a very old chant that I was given over twenty years ago, but the only thing that popped in my mind was this phrase: O ahm naya bendigo. If you are talking about the old hippie chant, Om Nom Myo Renge Kyu or something like that.
Re: [Zen] Aging Mother
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] too have an ailing mother, and an ailing father. They are 91 and 92 respectively. There are times when I'm overwhelmed by the 'poor, poor, pitiful me' tape playing in my mind because of the burden they are for me and the restrictions their care places on me. They live with you in Thailand? Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zen] Any ideas what this means?
From: Cynth-Graphic No, not really. Sounds like something you would chant. It is a Buddhist chant by the way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sqrtj9p7ZUeurl=http://buddhistmusic.blogspot.com/2007/06/nam-myoho-renge-kyo.html here is another link: http://buddhistmusic.blogspot.com/2007/06/nam-myoho-renge-kyo.html NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zen] Any ideas what this means?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPL_gU5KtxEamp;feature=related serious version
Re: [Zen] Any ideas what this means?
Sorry. Too many materialists have spoiled that rather clichéd chant. Looking for something new that can't be used for greedy gain. Cynth On Jun 25, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Al wrote: From: Cynth-Graphic No, not really. Sounds like something you would chant. It is a Buddhist chant by the way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sqrtj9p7ZUeurl=http:// buddhistmusic.blogspot.com/2007/06/nam-myoho-renge-kyo.html here is another link: http://buddhistmusic.blogspot.com/2007/06/nam-myoho-renge-kyo.html NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO
