[Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

2010-07-25 Thread mapturtle74
Jody W. Ianuzzi It is my understanding that Suzuki Roshi's wife was frightened by a visitor or a workman's eyes and actions and Suzuki Roshi told her that she should have compassion for everyone. He came home one day to find her murdered by the man she was afraid of. I remember when I read

[Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

2010-07-25 Thread mapturtle74
maitreya003 But, like every human being they have the capacity for change. They were not born monsters but bread to be them. I think that people who murder others may have the capacity for change, but once they take a life they forfeit the right to that consideration.

[Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

2010-07-25 Thread maitreya003
I think that people who murder others may have the capacity for change, but once they take a life they forfeit the right to that consideration. I think that people who have the capacity to help others more profoundly by changing themselves to help remove suffering from the world yet judge those

[Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

2010-07-21 Thread ED
Like the mind-state recommended in the Judeo-Christian holy books, when a parent spanks his/her child? --ED --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu wu...@... wrote: Bill, I think the key is when you hang a person, you should not have hatred. Anthony

RE: [Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

2010-07-16 Thread BillSmart
Anthony, My comments are embedded below: Bill, Take Hitler and Pol Pot for example. In what way can you exterminate them with compassion? [Bill!] Take your pick: lethal injection, gas chamber, .45 Glock… One way or the other, they need to be wiped out. The idea of compassion can

RE: [Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

2010-07-16 Thread Anthony Wu
Bill,   I think the key is when you hang a person, you should not have hatred.   Anthony --- On Fri, 16/7/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote: From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child To: Zen_Forum

RE: [Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

2010-07-15 Thread Anthony Wu
Jody,   I have not heard of Suzuki's wife murdered by a sociopath. Can you describe in a terse way.\?   Anthony --- On Thu, 15/7/10, Jody W. Ianuzzi j...@thewhitehats.com wrote: From: Jody W. Ianuzzi j...@thewhitehats.com Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

RE: [Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

2010-07-15 Thread Anthony Wu
...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 15 July, 2010, 9:39 AM   Jody, I certainly understand why you would be disgusted at what the individual you described did; and that you would want to take

RE: [Zen] Re: Frustration with Job and Teenage Child

2010-07-15 Thread Jody W. Ianuzzi
Hello Anthony, It is my understanding that Suzuki Roshi's wife was frightened by a visitor or a workman's eyes and actions and Suzuki Roshi told her that she should have compassion for everyone. He came home one day to find her murdered by the man she was afraid of. I remember when I read this