Re: [Zen] Zazen Instruction for Geeks...

2013-06-01 Thread Merle Lester
  love this bill merle   ...Bill!

Re: [Zen] Zazen

2013-03-02 Thread Bill!
Mike, Yes, I was just saying that virtually any action COULD lead to realization of Buddha Nature, or be an expression of Buddha Nature. Of course they might not be also. It depends on your state of mind ...or state of no-mind. This even applies to zazen. Just because you're sitting cross-le

Re: [Zen] Zazen

2013-03-02 Thread uerusuboyo
Bill!,Thing is tho, not all meditation leads to the same thing. Some simply calm the mind (mantras, chanting, jhanas etc) and others lead to insight wisdom. Although many arts have come out of Zen (martial, calligraphy, flower arranging etc), all the masters of those arts have in common the many

Re: [Zen] Zazen

2013-03-02 Thread Bill!
Merle, I've stayed out of that discussion, but as you know I do sit (zazen) on a fairly regular schedule. I couldn't argue with you though. You can realize Buddha Nature through virtually any activity including zazen, walking in the forest and creating art - and lots of other things too like

Re: [Zen] Zazen

2013-03-01 Thread Joe
Merle, "yet there are those amongst us that insist on the mat sitting and the group zenfest" Let it go, already. Since you don't know our way of training, and our periodically joining others in training, don't try to make it seem that your ignorance is so special. It doesn't suit you, an

Re: [Zen] Zazen

2013-03-01 Thread Joe
Merle, Merle incorrectly quoted but poetically expressed a mangled adage: "as the saying goes the sands of time wait for no man!" That's a new one, you mean! The indication of time on the sundials I make waits for gnomon. --Joe > Merle Lester wrote: > > bill!!!.. > > well that is how it as

Re: [Zen] Zazen

2013-03-01 Thread Merle Lester
bill!!!.. well that is how it as i see it... yet there are those amongst us that insist on the mat sitting and the  group zenfest my option here is the rainforestfest... quiet contemplation and drawing mandalas as my meditation  practise i witnessed at the art gallery of sydney years ag

Re: [Zen] Zazen

2013-03-01 Thread Bill!
Merle, I'd say it much more applicable to zen than to Buddhism in general. Most Buddhists are mired down in dogma like all other religions. Zen is not. Zen is the ultimate WYSIWYG - Just THIS! ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester wrote: > > good one bill!..buddhist howeve

Re: [Zen] Zazen

2013-03-01 Thread Merle Lester
good one bill!..buddhist however is it zen??? merle                                                              ...Bill!

Re: [Zen] Zazen Instruction for Geeks

2012-01-07 Thread dan_guzy
That was great, very funny but at the same time inspiring. --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen wrote: > > Actually pretty good and useful instructions... > > Edgar > > > > On Nov 27, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Bill! wrote: > > > > > Many people have asked for zazen instruction. I've found

Re: [Zen] Zazen Instruction for Geeks

2011-11-28 Thread Edgar Owen
Actually pretty good and useful instructions... Edgar On Nov 27, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Bill! wrote: > > Many people have asked for zazen instruction. I've found a new link with > instructions especially for geeks: > > http://www.billsmart.com/misc/zazen%20for%20geeks.jpg > > Hope it helps...B

RE: [Zen] Zazen Instruction for Geeks

2011-11-27 Thread Myoken4
Oh dear;- Myoken. From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill! Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011 10:38 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zen] Zazen Instruction for Geeks Many people have asked for zazen instruction. I've found a

Re: [Zen] zazen, satori seekers(to Kristy/list)

2011-02-10 Thread Kristy McClain
Hi Mel,   Reading your words below reminds me why I've never looked for a guru.  There are many  reasons, some of which I am writing in a post to Anthony , along with an article. But perhaps the problem lies in the "seeking" itself.  Looking for answers, security, guidance, protection..  Is a ma

RE: [Zen] Zazen

2010-08-20 Thread BillSmart
DP, Like any activity, zazen is most effective when it is comfortable for you. It's better to sit WELL for 5 minutes than HALF-ASS for 45 minutes; and better to sit 6 periods of 5 minutes each sprinkled throughout the day then trying to struggle through 1 period of 30 minutes. Zen always stresses

Re: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-21 Thread Edgar Owen
ing has ever happened prior, nor will anything ever happen subsequently. Just THIS! Only THIS! Thanks for the seed crystal that prompted me to better express this understanding (feeling). ...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edgar Owen Sent: Wednesda

RE: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-21 Thread BillSmart
and relationships, and then just let the pieces 'lay there' spread out all over my mind as see 'how they feel'. Am I comfortable with all the concepts and especially the way you have connected them together? That's how I 'think more about' things.) Later...Bill

Re: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-20 Thread Edgar Owen
pecially the way you have connected them together? That's how I 'think more about' things.) Later...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edgar Owen Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:56 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] zazen

Re: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-20 Thread Edgar Owen
ost which correctly >> calls me on my use of the word 'transmission'. I am guilty of just >> regurgitating popular, but inaccurate, terms used in describing zen. As >> you've pointed out there is nothing transmitted. There is only a >> realization or disc

RE: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-19 Thread BillSmart
how I 'think more about' things.) Later...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edgar Owen Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:56 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] zazen Bill, Thanks for your response. First I wasn't intending

Re: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-19 Thread Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
er with the second paragraph of your post which correctly >> calls me on my use of the word 'transmission'. I am guilty of just >> regurgitating popular, but inaccurate, terms used in describing zen. As >> you've pointed out there is nothing transmitted. There is only a >> r

Re: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-19 Thread Edgar Owen
m: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edgar Owen Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:25 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] zazen Bill, Good post with which I'm pretty much in agreement. Zen, or satori, is certainly nothing above anyone

RE: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-19 Thread BillSmart
nted out there is nothing transmitted. There is only a realization or discovery. I agree with the all the rest of that paragraph. Thanks...Bill! From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edgar Owen Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:25 PM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Su

Re: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-19 Thread Edgar Owen
Bill, Good post with which I'm pretty much in agreement. Zen, or satori, is certainly nothing above anyone's head as it is the natural state of all being. Satori is simply a matter of looking and seeing what is actually there right now unmediated by intellect or emotion - but that is with

RE: [Zen] zazen

2008-08-12 Thread BillSmart
Sean, I think the fundamental meditation practices of both zen and Vispassana Buddhism are the same. There is a zen saying that when you're meditating and thoughts appear, you should treat them like you would treat a visitor knocking on your door while you are busy doing some important task. You

Re: [Zen] Zazen & Menstruation

2008-02-01 Thread Charlie
There are some zen meditation websites that sell zazen pads. Have any of the ladies used these? Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/gr

Re: [Zen] Zazen & Menstruation

2008-01-31 Thread Al
From: "Cynth" <> What is the practice of zazen when encountering puns? > I went to a three-day sesshin once, and at the end of it, after three days of crappy food and sleepless nights on the floor, we had to listen to the Roshi crack jokes in half-baked English as he got around to telling everyone

Re: [Zen] Zazen & Menstruation

2008-01-31 Thread Cynth
What is the practice of zazen when encountering puns? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Oh, for the love of ... > > --- Frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > How does menstruation affect your zazen practice? Do > > hormonal > > fluctuations affect sat

Re: [Zen] Zazen & Menstruation

2008-01-31 Thread pandabananasock
Oh, for the love of ... --- Frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How does menstruation affect your zazen practice? Do > hormonal > fluctuations affect satori? Does a zen master who is > having her period > reach higher or lower levels? Does she become One > with The Flow? _

RE: [Zen] Zazen & Penis Size

2008-01-31 Thread Bill Smart
: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:43 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Zazen & Penis Size From: "Bill Smart" <> Cut it off, cut it all off! .Bill! > You joke, but if someone is too attached to their penis, then Bankei would have cut it off. On the other hand, t

RE: [Zen] Zazen & Penis Size

2008-01-30 Thread Bill Smart
Cut it off, cut it all off! .Bill! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:54 AM To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Zen] Zazen & Penis Size Last time I posted a bunch of penis jokes and later a felt all bad and stuff. Is discom

Re: [Zen] Zazen & Penis Size

2008-01-30 Thread pandabananasock
Last time I posted a bunch of penis jokes and later a felt all bad and stuff. Is discomfort really any more of an "obstacle" than comfort is an "opportunity"? Methinks when you're cold, be cold buddha. When you're hot, be hot buddha. But that is just what methinks. --- Jackson Masters <[EMAIL