[zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-07-24 Thread Ross
Has anybody here got any thoughts on how to resolve this problem: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=261204tstart=0 It sounds like two of us have been affected by this now, and it's a bit of a nuisance your entire server hanging when a drive is removed, makes you worry about

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-24 Thread Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi
We do not use raidz*. Virtually, no raid or stripe through OS. We have 4 disk RAID1 volumes. RAID1 was created from CAM on 2540. 2540 does not have RAID 1+0 or 0+1. cheers tharindu Brandon High wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Steve
many on HD setup: Thanks for the replies, but actual doubt is on MB. I would go with the suggestion of different HD (even if I think that the speed will be aligned to the slowest of them), and may be raidz2 (even if I think raidz is enough for a home server) bhigh: It seems than 780G/SB700

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And interesting of booting from CF, but it seems is possible to boot from the zraid and I would go for it! It's not possible to boot from a raidz volume yet. You can only boot from a single drive or a mirror. -B -- Brandon High

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-24 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We do not use raidz*. Virtually, no raid or stripe through OS. So it's ZFS on a single LUN exported from the 2540? Or have you created a zpool from multiple raid1 LUNs on the 2540? Have you tried

[zfs-discuss] Pool setup suggestions

2008-07-24 Thread Stefan Palm
As I used OpenSolaris for some time I wanted to give SXCE (snv_93) a change on my home server. Now I' wondering what would be the best setup for my disks. I have two 300GiB PATA disks* in stock, two 160G SATA disks** in use by my old linux server and - maybe for temporary use - an external 160G

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Steve
Following the VIA link and googling a bit I found something that seems interesting: - MB: http://www.avmagazine.it/forum/showthread.php?s=threadid=108695 - in the case http://www.chenbro.com/corporatesite/products_detail.php?serno=100 Are they viable?? This message posted from

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Ross
Hi Jorgen, This isn't an answer to your problem I'm afraid, but a request for you to do a test when you get your new x4500. Could you try pulling a SATA drive to see if the system hangs? I'm finding Solaris just locks up if I pull a drive connected to the Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 card, and I

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-24 Thread Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi
Do you have any recommend parameters should I try ? Ellis, Mike wrote: Would adding a dedicated ZIL/SLOG (what is the difference between those 2 exactly? Is there one?) help meet your requirement? The idea would be to use some sort of relatively large SSD drive of some variety to absorb

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Jorgen Lundman
We have had a disk fail in the the existing x4500 and it sure froze the whole server. I believe it is an OS problem which (should have) been fixed in a version newer than we have. If you want me to test it on the new x4500 because it runs Sol10 508 I can do. Ross wrote: Hi Jorgen, This

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Glaser, David
We had the same problem, at least a good chunk of the zfs volumes died when the drive failed. Granted, I don't think the drive actually failed, but a driver issue/lockup. A reboot 2 weeks ago brought the machine back up and the drive hasn't had a problem since. I was behind on two patches that

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Charles Menser
Yes, I am vary happy with the M2A-VM. Charles On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for all the replays! (and in the meantime I was just having a dinner! :-) To recap: tcook: you are right, in fact I'm thinking to have just 3/4 for now, without

[zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Burlison
I'm upgrading my B92 UFS-boot system to ZFS root using Live Upgrade. It appears to work fine so far, but I'm wondering why it allocates a ZFS filesystem for swap when I already have a dedicated swap slice. Shouldn't it just use any existing swap slice rather than creating a ZFS one? -- Alan

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-24 Thread David Collier-Brown
Hmmn, that *sounds* as if you are saying you've a very-high-redundancy RAID1 mirror, 4 disks deep, on an 'enterprise-class tier 2 storage' array that doesn't support RAID 1+0 or 0+1. That sounds weird: the 2540 supports RAID levels 0, 1, (1+0), 3 and 5, and deep mirrors are normally only

Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me?

2008-07-24 Thread Ross
Great news, thanks for the update :) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me?

2008-07-24 Thread Aaron Botsis
Nevermind -- this problem seems like it's been fixed in b94. I saw a bug that looked like the description fit (slow clone removal, didn't write down the bug number) and gave it a shot. imported and things seem like they're back up and running. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Alan, ZFS doesn't swap to a slice in build 92. In this build, a ZFS root environment requires separate ZFS volumes for swap and dump devices. The ZFS boot/install project and information trail starts here: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/ Cindy Alan Burlison wrote: I'm

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-24 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi wrote: We do not use raidz*. Virtually, no raid or stripe through OS. We have 4 disk RAID1 volumes.  RAID1 was created from CAM on 2540. What ZFS block size are you using? Are you using synchronous writes for each 700byte message? 10k

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Florin Iucha
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:38:49AM -0400, Charles Menser wrote: I installed it with snv_86 in IDE controller mode, and have since upgraded ending up at snv_93. Do you know what implications there are for using AHCI vs IDE modes? I had the same question and Neal Pollack [EMAIL PROTECTED] told

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Charles Menser
I installed it with snv_86 in IDE controller mode, and have since upgraded ending up at snv_93. Do you know what implications there are for using AHCI vs IDE modes? Thanks, Charles On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Florin Iucha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 08:22:16AM -0400,

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Florin Iucha
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 08:22:16AM -0400, Charles Menser wrote: Yes, I am vary happy with the M2A-VM. You will need at least SNV_93 to use it in AHCI mode. The northbridge gets quite hot, but that does not seem to be impairing its performance. I have the M2A-VM with an AMD 64 BE-2400 (45W) and

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-24 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Brandon High wrote: Have you tried exporting the individual drives and using zfs to handle the mirroring? It might have better performance in your situation. It should indeed have better performance. The single LUN exported from the 2540 will be treated like a single

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot attach mirror to SPARC zfs root pool

2008-07-24 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rainer, Sorry for your trouble. I'm updating the installboot example in the ZFS Admin Guide with the -F zfs syntax now. We'll fix the installboot man page as well. Perhaps it also deserves a mention in the FAQ somewhere near

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Burlison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZFS doesn't swap to a slice in build 92. In this build, a ZFS root environment requires separate ZFS volumes for swap and dump devices. The ZFS boot/install project and information trail starts here: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/ Is this going to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot attach mirror to SPARC zfs root pool

2008-07-24 Thread Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)
Mike Gerdts wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rainer, Sorry for your trouble. I'm updating the installboot example in the ZFS Admin Guide with the -F zfs syntax now. We'll fix the installboot man page as well. Perhaps it also deserves a mention in the FAQ

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Peak every 4-5 second

2008-07-24 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Tharindu Rukshan Bamunuarachchi wrote: Do you have any recommend parameters should I try ? Using an external log is really not needed when using the StorageTek 2540. I doubt that it is useful at all. Bob == Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot attach mirror to SPARC zfs root pool

2008-07-24 Thread Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)
Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland) wrote: Mike Gerdts wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 11:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rainer, Sorry for your trouble. I'm updating the installboot example in the ZFS Admin Guide with the -F zfs syntax now. We'll fix the installboot man page as

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Alan, Just make sure you use dumpadm to point to valid dump device and this setup should work fine. Please let us know if it doesn't. The ZFS strategy behind automatically creating separate swap and dump devices including the following: o Eliminates the need to create separate slices o Enables

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, Just make sure you use dumpadm to point to valid dump device and this setup should work fine. Please let us know if it doesn't. The ZFS strategy behind automatically creating separate swap and dump devices including the following: o Eliminates the need to

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Lori Alt
Alan Burlison wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZFS doesn't swap to a slice in build 92. In this build, a ZFS root environment requires separate ZFS volumes for swap and dump devices. The ZFS boot/install project and information trail starts here:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Burlison
Lori Alt wrote: In designing the changes to the install software, we had to decide whether to be all things to all people or make some default choices. Being all things to all people makes the interface a lot more complicated and takes a lot more engineering effort (we'd still be developing

Re: [zfs-discuss] can anyone help me?

2008-07-24 Thread Victor Latushkin
Aaron Botsis пишет: Hello, I've hit this same problem. Hernan/Victor, I sent you an email asking for the description of this solution. I've also got important data on my array. I went to b93 hoping there'd be a patch for this. I caused the problem in a manner identical to Hernan; by

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Rainer Orth
Lori Alt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: use of swap/dump zvols? If your existing swap/dump slice is contiguous with your root pool, you can grow the root pool into that space (using format to merge the slices. A reboot or re-import of the pool will cause it to grow into the newly-available

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-07-24 Thread Dave
I've discovered this as well - b81 to b93 (latest I've tried). I switched from my on-board SATA controller to AOC-SAT2-MV8 cards because the MCP55 controller caused random disk hangs. Now the SAT2-MV8 works as long as the drives are working correctly, but the system can't handle a drive

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Lori Alt
Alan Burlison wrote: Lori Alt wrote: In designing the changes to the install software, we had to decide whether to be all things to all people or make some default choices. Being all things to all people makes the interface a lot more complicated and takes a lot more engineering effort

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2008-07-24 Thread mike
Did you have success? What version of Solaris? OpenSolaris? etc? I'd want to use this card with the latest Solaris 10 (update 5?) The connector on the adapter itself is IPASS and the Supermicro part number for cables from the adapter to standard SATA drives is CBL-0118L-02 IPASS to 4 SATA

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 hang when drive removed

2008-07-24 Thread Ross
Yeah, I thought of the storage forum today and found somebody else with the problem, and since my post a couple of people have reported similar issues on Thumpers. I guess the storage thread is the best place for this now: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=42507tstart=0

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Ross
Have any of you guys reported this to Sun? A quick search of the bug database doesn't bring up anything that appears related to sata drives and hanging or hot swapping. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best practice for Solaris as an NFS-server sharing a number of ZFS file sys

2008-07-24 Thread Richard Elling
Rex Kuo wrote: Dear All : We are looking for best practice for Solaris as an NFS-server sharing a number of ZFS file systems and nfs clients are RHEL 5.0 OS to mount NFS-server. Any S10 NFS-server and RHEL 5.0 NFS-client tuning guide or suggestion are welcome. We try to keep

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Steve
PS: I scaled down to mini-ITX form factot because it seems that the http://www.chenbro.com/corporatesite/products_detail.php?serno=100 is the PERFECT case for the job! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or Atom maybe viable? The atom CPU has pretty crappy performance. At 1.6 GHz performance is somewhere between a 900MHz Celeron-M and 1.13 Pentium 3-M. It's also single-core. It would probably work, but it could be CPU bound on

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Burlison
Lori Alt wrote: What if you turned slice 1 into a pool (a new one), migrated your BE into it, then grow that pool to soak up the space in the slices that follow it? You might still need to save some stuff elsewhere while you're doing the transition. Doesn't work, because LU wants to

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Miles Nordin
s == Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: s About freedom: I for sure would prefere open source drivers s availability, let's account for it! There is source for the Intel gigabit cards in the source browser.

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Richard Elling
There are known issues with the Marvell drivers in X4500s. You will want to pay attention to the release notes, SRDBs, InfoDocs, and SunAlerts for the platform. http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/SunFireX4500/SunFireX4500 You will want to especially pay attention

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Brett Monroe
Ross, The X4500 uses 6x Marvell 88SX SATA controllers for its internal disks. They are not Supermicro controllers. The new X4540 uses an LSI chipset instead of the Marvell chipset. --Brett This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Lori Alt
Alan Burlison wrote: Lori Alt wrote: What if you turned slice 1 into a pool (a new one), migrated your BE into it, then grow that pool to soak up the space in the slices that follow it? You might still need to save some stuff elsewhere while you're doing the transition. Doesn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Lori Alt
I will look into this. I don't know why it would have failed. Lori Rainer Orth wrote: Lori Alt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: use of swap/dump zvols? If your existing swap/dump slice is contiguous with your root pool, you can grow the root pool into that space (using format to merge the

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Ross
Ross, The X4500 uses 6x Marvell 88SX SATA controllers for its internal disks. They are not Supermicro controllers. The new X4540 uses an LSI chipset instead of the Marvell chipset. --Brett Yup, and the Supermicro card uses the Marvell Hercules-2 88SX6081 (Rev. C0) SATA Host

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot attach mirror to SPARC zfs root pool

2008-07-24 Thread Charles Meeks
Hoping this is not too off topic.Can anyone confirm you can break a mirrored zfs root pool once formed. I basically want to clone a boot drive, take it to another piece of identical hardware and have two machines ( or more ). I am running indiana b93 on x86 hardware. I have read

Re: [zfs-discuss] disk names?

2008-07-24 Thread Steve
Aaargh! My perfect case not working!! The back-pane should not be just a pass-trough? There was something unmounted? The power was not enough for all the disks? Can it depend on the disks? Did you have some replies? I would tell also to tech support of Chenbro directly

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot - upgrade from UFS swap slices

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Burlison
Lori Alt wrote: Sounds like LU needs some of the same swap/dump flexibility that we just gave initial install. I'll bring this up within the team. The (partial) workaround I tried was: 1. create a ZFS BE in an existing pool that has enough space 2 lumount the BE, edit the vfstab to use the

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Steve
Thank you very much Brandon for pointing out the issue for the case!! (anyway that's really a peaty, I hope it will find a solution!...) About Atom a person from Sun was pointing out the only good version for ZFS would be N200 (64bit). Anyway I wouldn't make a problem of money (still ;-), but

[zfs-discuss] Replicating ZFS filesystems with non-standard mount points

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Burlison
I have 4 filesystems in a pool that I want to replicate into another pool, so I've taken snapshots prior to replication: pool1/home1 14.3G 143G 14.3G /home1 pool1/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.57M - 14.3G - pool1/home2 4.31G 143G 4.31G /home2 pool1/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Steve
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And interesting of booting from CF, but it seems is possible to boot from the zraid and I would go for it! It's not possible to boot from a raidz volume yet. You can only boot from a single drive or a mirror. If I

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Brett Monroe
Yup, and the Supermicro card uses the Marvell Hercules-2 88SX6081 (Rev. C0) SATA Host Controller, which is part of the series supported by the same driver: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-5177/marvell88sx 7d?a=view. I've seen the Supermicro card mentioned in connection with the

Re: [zfs-discuss] The best motherboard for a home ZFS fileserver

2008-07-24 Thread Steve
s And, if better I'm open also to intel! intel you can possibly get onboard AHCI that works, and the intel igabit MAC, and 16GB instead of 8GB RAM on a desktop board. Also the video may be better-supported. but it's, you know, intel. Miles, sorry, but probably I'm missing something to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Supermicro AOC-USAS-L8i

2008-07-24 Thread Brandon High
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 3:37 AM, Bryan Wagoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was a little confused on what to get, so I ended up buying this off the Provantage website where I'm getting the card. The card was like $123 and each of these cables was like $22. CBL-0118L-02IPASS to 4 SATA

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Jorgen Lundman
Since we were drowning, we decided to go ahead and reboot with my guesses, even though I have not heard and expert opinions on the changes. (Also, 3 mins was way under estimated. It takes 12 minutes to reboot our x4500). The new values are: (original) set bufhwm_pct=10(2%) set

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Lida Horn
Richard Elling wrote: There are known issues with the Marvell drivers in X4500s. You will want to pay attention to the release notes, SRDBs, InfoDocs, and SunAlerts for the platform. http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/validateUser.do?target=Systems/SunFireX4500/SunFireX4500 You will want

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot attach mirror to SPARC zfs root pool

2008-07-24 Thread Boyd Adamson
Enda O'Connor ( Sun Micro Systems Ireland) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [..] meant to add that on x86 the following should do the trick ( again I'm open to correction ) installgrub /boot/grub/stage1 /zfsroot/boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c1t0d0s0 haven't tested the z86 one though. I used

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs write cache enable on boot disks ?

2008-07-24 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello andrew, Thursday, April 24, 2008, 11:03:48 AM, you wrote: a What is the reasoning behind ZFS not enabling the write cache for a the root pool? Is there a way of forcing ZFS to enable the write cache? The

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Neal Pollack
Lida Horn wrote: Richard Elling wrote: There are known issues with the Marvell drivers in X4500s. You will want to pay attention to the release notes, SRDBs, InfoDocs, and SunAlerts for the platform.

Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 performance tuning.

2008-07-24 Thread Eric Schrock
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 08:38:21PM -0700, Neal Pollack wrote: As of build 94, it does not automatically bring the disk online. I replaced a failed disk on an x4500 today running Nevada build 94, and still had to manually issue # cfgadm -c configure sata1/3 # zpool replace tank cxt2d0