[zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Tiernan OToole
Good morning. I am in the process of planning a system which will have 2 ZFS servers, one on site, one off site. The on site server will be used by workstations and servers in house, and most of that will stay in house. There will, however, be data i want backed up somewhere else, which is where

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing rpool device paths/drivers

2012-10-05 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-05 4:57, Jerry Kemp wrote: Its been awhile, but it seems like in the past, you would power the system down, boot from removable media, import your pool then destroy or archive the /etc/zfs/zpool.cache, and possibly your /etc/path_to_inst file, power down again and re-arrange your

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-05 11:17, Tiernan OToole wrote: Also, as a follow up question, but slightly unrelated, when it comes to the ZFS Send, i could use SSH to do the send, directly to the machine... Or i could upload the compressed, and possibly encrypted dump to the server... Which, for resume-ability and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks for that Jim! Sounds like a plan there... One question about the storing ZFS dumps in a file... So, the idea of storing the data in a SFTP server which has an unknown underlying file system... Is that defiantly off limits, or can it be done? and should i be doing a full dump or just an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-05 13:13, Tiernan OToole wrote: Thanks for that Jim! Sounds like a plan there... One question about the storing ZFS dumps in a file... So, the idea of storing the data in a SFTP server which has an unknown underlying file system... Is that defiantly off limits, or can it be done?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks again Jim. Very handy info. This is now my weekend project, so hopefully things go well! --Tiernan On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jim Klimov jimkli...@cos.ru wrote: 2012-10-05 13:13, Tiernan OToole wrote: Thanks for that Jim! Sounds like a plan there... One question about the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Ian Collins
On 10/05/12 21:36, Jim Klimov wrote: 2012-10-05 11:17, Tiernan OToole wrote: Also, as a follow up question, but slightly unrelated, when it comes to the ZFS Send, i could use SSH to do the send, directly to the machine... Or i could upload the compressed, and possibly encrypted dump to the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Tiernan OToole
Thanks Ian. That sounds like an option also. The plan was to break up the file systems anyway, since some i will want to be replicated remotely, and others not as much. --Tiernan On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: On 10/05/12 21:36, Jim Klimov wrote:

Re: [zfs-discuss] vm server storage mirror

2012-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov Well, it seems just like a peculiar effect of required vs. optional dependencies. The loop is in the default installation. Details: # svcprop filesystem/usr | grep scheduler

Re: [zfs-discuss] Making ZIL faster

2012-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: Neil Perrin [mailto:neil.per...@oracle.com] In general - yes, but it really depends. Multiple synchronous writes of any size across multiple file systems will fan out across the log devices. That is because there is a separate independent log chain for each file system. Also large

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tiernan OToole I am in the process of planning a system which will have 2 ZFS servers, one on site, one off site. The on site server will be used by workstations and servers in house, and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Frank Cusack
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: I do have to suffer a slow, glitchy WAN to a remote server and rather than send stream files, I broke the data *on the remote server* into a more fine grained set of filesystems than I would do normally. In this case, I

Re: [zfs-discuss] vm server storage mirror

2012-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey I must be missing something - I don't see anything above that indicates any required vs optional dependencies. Ok, I see that now. (Thanks to the SMF FAQ). A dependency

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Frank Cusack On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: I do have to suffer a slow, glitchy WAN to a remote server and rather than send stream files, I broke the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Ian Collins
On 10/06/12 07:57, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Frank Cusack On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:17 AM, Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com wrote: I do have to suffer a slow,

[zfs-discuss] How many disk in one pool

2012-10-05 Thread Albert Shih
Hi all, I'm actually running ZFS under FreeBSD. I've a question about how many disks I «can» have in one pool. At this moment I'm running with one server (FreeBSD 9.0) with 4 MD1200 (Dell) meaning 48 disks. I've configure with 4 raidz2 in the pool (one on each MD1200) On what I understand I

Re: [zfs-discuss] How many disk in one pool

2012-10-05 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Albert Shih I'm actually running ZFS under FreeBSD. I've a question about how many disks I can have in one pool. At this moment I'm running with one server (FreeBSD 9.0) with 4 MD1200

Re: [zfs-discuss] How many disk in one pool

2012-10-05 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 5, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote: Hi all, I'm actually running ZFS under FreeBSD. I've a question about how many disks I «can» have in one pool. At this moment I'm running with one server (FreeBSD 9.0) with 4 MD1200 (Dell) meaning 48 disks. I've

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building an On-Site and Off-Size ZFS server, replication question

2012-10-05 Thread Frank Cusack
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: I do have a lot of what would appear to be unnecessary filesystems, but after loosing the WAN 3 days into a large transfer, a change of tactic was required! I've recently (last year or so) gone the other way, and have made