Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Peter Lai
why do I get the feeling apple made everything worse by not sticking with either UTF-16 or UTF-8 encodings and posix collation for Finder etc.? On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Bjoern Kahl wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > To late in the night, hit "send" to early :-

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Bjoern Kahl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To late in the night, hit "send" to early :-( Am 18.03.14 00:31, schrieb Bjoern Kahl: > > I apologize for this being a bit longer, but I tried to really > clarify what normalization is all about nd how it affects ZFS on > OSX. > > Am 17.03.14 20:5

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Bjoern Kahl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I apologize for this being a bit longer, but I tried to really clarify what normalization is all about nd how it affects ZFS on OSX. Am 17.03.14 20:56, schrieb Philip Robar: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dave Cottlehuber > wrote: > >> On 17.

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Ridd
On 17 Mar 2014, at 19:56, Philip Robar wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On 17. März 2014 at 19:17:23, Philip Robar (philip.ro...@gmail.com) wrote: > > I admit to being one whose eyes glaze over when the discussion turns to > > i18n/l10n. So why should

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Philip Robar
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On 17. März 2014 at 19:17:23, Philip Robar (philip.ro...@gmail.com) wrote: > > I admit to being one whose eyes glaze over when the discussion turns to > > i18n/l10n. So why should I use formD normalization? > > Because (as you point out ;

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On 17. März 2014 at 19:17:23, Philip Robar (philip.ro...@gmail.com) wrote: > I admit to being one whose eyes glaze over when the discussion turns to > i18n/l10n. So why should I use formD normalization? Because (as you point out ;-) poorly written software won’t work. iTunes is one of them, sadly

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Jason Belec
Well technically, setting up your own Dropbox, Box, AWS, etc., is not hard. But hey, people can pay someone for the service so they do. ;) -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 17, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Alex Wasserman wrote: > > > Media: > ZFS mounted locally - iPhoto/Aperture, and iTunes bo

[zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Wasserman
Media: ZFS mounted locally - iPhoto/Aperture, and iTunes both quite happy. Laptops/Syncing: I have DropBox running just fine on my desktop. No reason I couldn't run it on the laptop and use it to sync documents. Wouldn't be as good for serious volume, but for just work docs, it handles that ju

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Philip Robar
I admit to being one whose eyes glaze over when the discussion turns to i18n/l10n. So why should I use formD normalization? I've been using case sensitive filesystems on my Mac for as long as there was a choice (I grew up in UNIX land where this was made correctly from the start.) and I've never h

Re: [zfs-macos] pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Jason Belec
My wife and I have both our iTunes libraries on ZFS on the basement server, each of our systems user data also is ZFS which backs up every 20 minutes to the basement server. This has been running for years under OSX and the current/stable and old MacZFS. That server then forwards all the snapsho

Re: [zfs-macos] pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Jason Belec
Good man. -- Jason Belec Sent from my iPad > On Mar 17, 2014, at 3:35 AM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > >> On 17. März 2014 at 05:00:25, roemer (uwe.ro...@gmail.com) wrote: >> Thanks for the detailed example! >> >>> On Monday, 17 March 2014 07:34:45 UTC+11, dch wrote: >>> >>> I've been a happy m

Re: [zfs-macos] pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Philip Robar
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On 17. März 2014 at 05:00:25, roemer (uwe.ro...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > How does a 'copies=2' filesystem play together with a 'RAIDZ1' (or even > > > RAIDZ2) pool? RAIDZ would have all data stored redundantly already, so > > > would 'co

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On 17. März 2014 at 09:15:55, Geoff Smith (luciditymu...@gmail.com) wrote: > My iTunes library is stored in ZFS, all you have to do is point iTunes to a > pre-existing > library and it figures itself out, works really well. > > Sent from my iPhone +1 Just make sure you use formD normalisatio

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Geoff Smith
My iTunes library is stored in ZFS, all you have to do is point iTunes to a pre-existing library and it figures itself out, works really well. Sent from my iPhone > On 17 Mar 2014, at 04:15, roemer wrote: > > Thanks for sharing this info. Very interesting. > I am currently developing a very si

Re: [zfs-macos] pros/cons of multiple zfs filesystems

2014-03-17 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On 17. März 2014 at 05:00:25, roemer (uwe.ro...@gmail.com) wrote: > Thanks for the detailed example! > > On Monday, 17 March 2014 07:34:45 UTC+11, dch wrote: > > > > I've been a happy maczfs and also zfsosx user for several years now. > > [...] > > zfs send is a very easy way to do a very trustab