RE: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-11 Thread Stacy Smith
My churches always taught no sexual union before marriage and no extramarital affairs either. It's what they didn't teach about the other doctrines I've come to appreciate. Stacy. At 06:12 PM 11/06/2003 -0900, you wrote: Jim Cobabe wrote: John W. Redelfs wrote: --- How can we teach 1) that

Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-11 Thread Stacy Smith
I'll have to remember this one. The fact is that some people are confused and do not feel they are being totally taught correctly on this point. I have a friend who took the missionary discussions and decided not to join. Because missionaries are taught not to put down any other churches

Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-06 Thread Stacy Smith
I understand all of the above, however, I go back to Joseph Smith in which he was commanded to join none of them. Helping them on some project may appear to be wonderful, but doesn't it suggest to some who have gotten mixed signals that we no longer hold the doctrine of the restoration of the

RE: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-06 Thread Jim Cobabe
John W. Redelfs wrote: --- How can we teach 1) that all the other churches contain some truth, and 2) that we are the only true church? The two statements are not incompatible, but they might easily be confused by those of inadequate education. --- I believe it is being done as we speak. Do

Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-06 Thread Valerie Nielsen Williams
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:14:18 -0900 John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a concern that I have, probably a futile concern. How can we teach 1) that all the other churches contain some truth, and 2) that we are the only true church? The two statements are not incompatible, but

RE: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-06 Thread John W. Redelfs
Jim Cobabe wrote: John W. Redelfs wrote: --- How can we teach 1) that all the other churches contain some truth, and 2) that we are the only true church? The two statements are not incompatible, but they might easily be confused by those of inadequate education. --- I believe it is being done as

Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-02 Thread Chet Cox
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 17:45:22 -0700 George Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thought you might like to read a short paper I wrote which may have some application to the question. George [Nothing by George follows.] Wow! That WAS a short paper! *jeep! --Chet PS: The actual paper

Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-02 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 23:43:26 + Tom Matkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I note that the Church is independent of all other churches in terms of doctrine, programs, missionary work, ordinances, and other matters of theology and administration... Ok, Tom. I buy your explanation.

[ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-01 Thread Paul Osborne
The Catholics are using the Mormon building for their own release time seminary per Church News article. I'm sure the relationship between the LDS and Catholic church will grow and strengthen because of things like this. I'm hoping that it will put us on a road of mutual respect and

Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-01 Thread Rusty Taylor
Paul-- your posting should certainly liven up things on Zion for a while :) I am not very articulate, and certainly am not a scriptorian. that said, here's my take on your comment. the two churches are still here, but I think you are mistaken in stating that the LDS position has changed. we

Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-01 Thread John W. Redelfs
Bob Taylor wrote: the two churches are still here, but I think you are mistaken in stating that the LDS position has changed. we still hold to the same doctrine that we always have taught. President Hinckley, from the start has encouraged all of us, and led out by example, to befriend those not of

RE: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-01 Thread Tom Matkin
John W. Redelfs wrote: I have mixed feelings about befriending other churches. It seems to me that we should befriend individuals and not false churches. After all, false churches teach false doctrine and in doing so they fight against the truth. If false churches aren't the church

Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-01 Thread Harold Stuart
On Nov 1, 2003, at 8:08 AM, Paul Osborne wrote: What is going on here? What about the two churches spoken of in the Book of Mormon, i.e. the Church of the Lamb and the Church of the Devil? I guess no one believes it anymore. The Church sure has changed. Paul, I'm not convinced that much has

Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-01 Thread George Cobabe
Thought you might like to read a short paper I wrote which may have some application to the question. George - Original Message - From: Harold Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

RE: [ZION] Catholics Mormons unite

2003-11-01 Thread Tom Matkin
George Cobabe wrote: Whoops - No attachments allowed. Here is the paper: The Only True Church Nice work George. I especially like that you included this passage: . Every serious seeker for the truth needs to ask what a testimony of a living prophet would do in their lives?