At 19:16 11/4/2002 -0700, M Marc wrote:
Anyone here remember that old cartoon about the swing? There are about half a
dozen ridiculous drawings of a simple swing in ridiculous configurations,
which
go from: what the salesman booked, what the marketeer spec'ed, what the
engineer
built, and so
On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 00:59:01 -0900 John W. Redelfs
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After much pondering, Gary Smith favored us with:
Archaeology also shows that Jericho didn't have the walls tumbling
down
when Joshua fought it.
I don't believe archaeology knows what it is talking about. The
John W. Redelfs wrote:
After much pondering, Gary Smith favored us with:
No, it is postulating a theory. Once a theory is set out for all to read,
then it is up to the rest of us to disprove the theory by testing it
against known evidences. That does not yet make it a fact, as future
Archaeologists have recently discovered fossil evidence of evolutionary
transitional forms of modern sheep species. Of course, these illustrations
are not being promoted as absolutely accurate renderings, science being the
forever tentative discipline that it is.
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Mij Ebaboc
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At 15:23 11/3/2002 -0600, St Paul (not Minnesota) wrote:
Also, maybe our whole religious experience is self induced with naturally
occurring chemicals in our brains that make us wishy washy? Maybe the
whole thing is a joke?
Well, I see it like this. If my religious experiences are all in mind,
If it is all in your mind, then how about the thousands of others who have
not only experienced God but also written prophecies, etc.?
Stacy.
At 07:36 PM 11/05/2002 +, you wrote:
At 15:23 11/3/2002 -0600, St Paul (not Minnesota) wrote:
Also, maybe our whole religious experience is self
On Mon, 04 Nov 2002 14:03:17 -0800, Stacy Smith
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How does one get an arranged marriage if one might wish one? I'm mad it
seems it can't be done in this culture.
The trick to arranged marriages is that you don't do your own arranging.
That makes it pretty hard to
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:05:35 -0500, Valerie Nielsen Williams
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Oh Dear Scott:
I had no idea what you have been through. I get off of ZION for
a few years, and everything falls apart!!
That's right, so don't you leave again! You hear me?
As I read between
At 20:21 11/5/2002 +, Goodfriend Scott wrote:
On Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:01:45 -0500, Elmer L. Fairbank
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At 19:30 11/5/2002 +, Goodfriend Scott wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2002 07:39:36 -0500, Elmer L. Fairbank
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
At 18:04 11/2/2002 +, Gib Mij
After much pondering, Marc A. Schindler favored us with:
People think Churchill's remark that sometimes a truth is so precious that
it has
to be protected by numerous lies is a cynical reading of history, but
there's a
lot of wisdom to that. It doesn't matter when Jericho's walls came
tumbling
After much pondering, Stacy Smith favored us with:
If it is all in your mind, then how about the thousands of others who have
not only experienced God but also written prophecies, etc.?
Maybe they are all part of my vivid dream? --JWR
The resurrection of Christ is not a figure of speech -- there is no slippery
slope here. One just has to realize what the difference between sacred and
secular history is.
John W. Redelfs wrote:
After much pondering, Marc A. Schindler favored us with:
People think Churchill's remark that
Scaffolding is another good term -- thanks. We are given a wide variety of
toolsets with which to learn. To confuse the toolsets with the structures they
build is a mistake, imo. John Widstoe wrote a lot about this issue, and had some
very thought-provoking suggestions as to how to approach
Scott McGee wrote:
Man is that he might have JOy!
==
Grampa Bill comments:
Sorry! Letty's woman enough for me!
Love y'all
Grampa Bill in Savannah
/
/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at
One must be careful to note, however, that if it were my ancestors who made
those drawings, they had better not depend upon their accuracy. If I were
to draw a picture of modern sheep today, it could definitely be used to
prove that there was an evolutionary transition which occurred today!
Jon
The US has opposes Israeli attacks against individuals, even as a US
missile killed al-Qaeda operatives in Yemen:
http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/front/RTGAM/20021105/wyem2115a/Front/homeBN/breakingnews
--
Marc A. Schindler
Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal
After much pondering, Stacy Smith favored us with:
And the prophecies coming to pass? Somewhere we must come down to
objective measurements.
Stacy.
At 11:37 AM 11/05/2002 -0900, you wrote:
After much pondering, Stacy Smith favored us with:
If it is all in your mind, then how about the
http://www.zionsbest.com/mckay_on_war.html
This is a talk given in April General Conference in 1942 during the height
of WWII. At the time, President David O. McKay was the Second Counselor in
the First Presidency of President Heber J. Grant. Gary Smith posted the
talk to the list; but I
After much pondering, Dan R Allen favored us with:
The historical literalness of the bible is not as important as the
spiritual understanding behind the events told about.
- Whether or not Cain and Able were farmers and herders of sheep, and the
direct literal sons of Adam is not as critical as
This is a misrepresentation. Those who deny the historicity of the Book of Mormon
deny that it was the record of an ancient people, but rather that it was a result
of Joseph Smith's creativity. This is a lot different from realizing that the
scriptures are written in multiple layers, and that to
Scott Ritter is a key figure in this whole thing, and while others disagree with
him, I personally take what he says with a great deal of trust. He was there, he
was the senior USAmerican present and reported directly to Hans Blix, the
inspection team chief at IAEA, and knows whereof he speaks.
This is true. Each has their own challenges, opportunities, talents, gifts and
assignments in life. This is what I get from what Paul says in I Corinthians 13.
YOUR challenge and MY challenge are to use those to the best of our advantage. I
learned a very interesting lesson recently. I've been
Gary Smith wrote:
Elder McConkie wrote that Eve really wasn't created from the rib of Adam,
that it was symbolic of their equality. I guess that means it isn't a
secular history, eh?
SWK also said this. BY was much, much harsher on the 'secular history' of the
Bible. I assume most here on
After much pondering, Marc A. Schindler favored us with:
This is a misrepresentation. Those who deny the historicity of the Book of
Mormon
deny that it was the record of an ancient people, but rather that it was a
result
of Joseph Smith's creativity. This is a lot different from realizing that
Is global warming just symbolic? Like so many other theories, it seems
forever tentative.
Deseret News, Tuesday, November 05, 2002
Iceberg theories melting
By Jesse Hyde
Deseret News staff writer
PROVO In March 2000, the largest iceberg ever observed broke off an ice
shelf in Antarctica,
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