Jim,
I just read your post to my wife and she told me to tell you that you are
her hero and she has a crush on you now! She studies mental illness very
seriously.
What an excellent post!
Paul O
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:58:46 + Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
My regular diatribe on
It was brought up in a larger discussion about the number of people in
the
ward suffering from depression, and the church's change to being more
supportive of people using drugs to overcome it.
Yep. I'm a big goof and shoot my mouth off all the time and tell people
about my problems to members
Add to this mess people whose families are controlling and a society that
does not care about that and you have a recipe for psychological
anxiety-producing events of such a magnitude we haven't seen in past ages.
Stacy.
At 06:42 AM 11/22/2002 -0600, you wrote:
It was brought up in a larger
Well, how many of them are diagnosed with true ADHD?
Stacy.
At 03:01 PM 11/21/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Dan R Allen wrote:
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This very subject came up in a meeting I attended recently, and a
statistic was thrown out that I found rather shocking: 40% of
missionaries from North America are
My first observation still stands. :Even though we feel we need some of
these chemicals, does it limit personal revelation? I wasn't trying to
ridicule, only trying to figure out whether or not these things would limit
our ability to get personal revelation.
Stacy.
At 06:58 PM 11/21/2002
My first observation still stands. :Even though we feel we need some of
these chemicals, does it limit personal revelation? I wasn't trying to
ridicule, only trying to figure out whether or not these things would
limit
our ability to get personal revelation.
Personal revelation without
Stacy:
Add to this mess people whose families are controlling and a society that
does not care about that and you have a recipe for psychological
anxiety-producing events of such a magnitude we haven't seen in past ages.
Dan:
Right. So what can the church do to help individuals and families
My regular diatribe on this question--
Those of us who now need or have needed psychotrophic drugs for personal
maintenance face serious enough challenges in life, without having to
contend with unqualified people who presume to know all about our
illnesses and afflictions. And sadly, there
Gary:
The Church's official position is that we should use some caution with
medications for mental illness. However, it has drastically backed off
from some statements made by General Authorities even 20 years or less
ago. Elder Packer had a speech (Be Ye Not Troubled), where he warned
about
Jim Cobabe wrote:
My regular diatribe on this question--
Those of us who now need or have needed psychotrophic drugs for personal
maintenance face serious enough challenges in life, without having to
contend with unqualified people who presume to know all about our
illnesses and
Dan R Allen wrote:
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This very subject came up in a meeting I attended recently, and a
statistic was thrown out that I found rather shocking: 40% of
missionaries from North America are supposably on Ritalyn. Has anyone
else heard this?
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It seems more likely that this report is conflated
--- From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
I sometimes feel that I have too many regrets about past misdeeds to be
able to enter the celestial kingdom even when I have repented of them.
--- Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---
Satan apparently has done a job on you. Don't you believe
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:55:36 -0600 Sandy and Melinda Rabinowitz
I want to agree with you totally, but I can relate to what Stacy is
speaking of. For while I try not to think about sin, every so
often
I trip upon it--sometimes in much the same way that someone might
step on a land mine.
Paul Osborne wrote:
I'm just the opposite. When I repent and follow the gospel plan my sins
become history.
Yer lucky. When I repent, my sins become part of my wife's history.
ducking
[Mom, you'll never believe what he did]
[actually, that's not true, I'm just throwing off
-Stacy-
I've long suspected that psychoactive drugs, while helping
someone to feel better, also lessens perception of personal
revelation. Am I right?
I'm no authority on the matter, but I believe you are. As a general
rule, it seems transparently obvious to me that altering one's brain
The question then remains: Can we legitimately use substances which would
lower our anxiety level, especially if those substances are said to be
nonaddictive?
Stacy.
At 05:52 PM 11/19/2002 +, you wrote:
-Stacy-
I've long suspected that psychoactive drugs, while helping
someone to feel
You know something I think of alot and wonder if any of y`all do is that
Joseph Smith would not even drink the whiskey they tried to give him to dull
the pain when they worked on his leg, do we rely on medicine instead of
priesthood blessings and our Heavenly Father too much?
Just wondered what
do we rely on medicine instead of
priesthood blessings and our Heavenly Father too much?
The Lord gave mankind the power to invent and find ways to help us with
our problems outside the bounds of prayers and blessings. Millions of
people who don't believe in prayer and blessings are reaping the
Amen. Stewardship over the Earth means to learn how to use what's here to improve
our lives, imo.
Paul Osborne wrote:
do we rely on medicine instead of
priesthood blessings and our Heavenly Father too much?
The Lord gave mankind the power to invent and find ways to help us with
our problems
to shake you out of it!
Jon
- Original Message -
From: Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:49 AM
Subject: RE: [ZION] Something Else To Ponder
I sometimes feel that I have too many regrets about past misdeeds to be
able to enter
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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:49 AM
Subject: RE: [ZION] Something Else To Ponder
I sometimes feel that I have too many regrets about past misdeeds to be
able to enter the celestial kingdom even when I have repented of them.
Stacy.
At 12:31 AM 11/18/2002 +, you wrote:
Stacy
Stacy Smith wrote:
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I've long suspected that psychoactive drugs, while helping someone to
feel better, also lessens perception of personal revelation. Am I
right?
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We can experience genuine spiritual manifestations that are a result of
the power and direct influence of God. Many make
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