John W. Redelfs wrote:
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Don't we already know that John the Baptist ate locusts and honey?
Locusts are definitely animal protein, not plants.
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Apparently some believe locusts to be a mistranslation perpetuated
from very early manuscripts.
In certain early historical writings the phrase
I've always wanted to pursue a serious discussion of race issues, but I
am pretty sure we can't talk about such things without making someone
mad.
Who would take offense if we discussed Laminites in the Book of Mormon?
Can you explain why?
Perhaps I'm just an ignorant white man who can
John,
What is the final day or hour when posts can be posted on the Zion list?
Paul O
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I could probably work on spelling Lamanites correctly.
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Mij Ebaboc
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Intesting article in today's Deseret News.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,450022058,00.html?
PAGE, Ariz. For more than 20 years, R.D.'s Drive-In has been
serving burgers, fries and shakes here by Lake Powell, all in relative
calm and obscurity.
That changed when customers
It does not look like you need to do any more work now.
What I would work on is your own name. Something is just not right about
your signature.
Couz George
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From: Jim Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 9:59 AM
Subject:
No, it doesn't. You are creating doctrine that does not exist.
Apostasy alert! Apostasy alert! :-)
Jon
George the Babe wrote:
As God is, man may become by obeying the
laws that God (created) to (allow us to) become God.
Just a little change. :-) Then it becomes a truly correct
George the Babe wrote:
When God created this universe, and
this world, He created the Laws by which things work, which may be the
same
as what His Father created or they may be different. The bottom line is
that our Father is responsible for the Laws by which we live.
He did not create this
Wimps! You're all wimps!
Noj
- Original Message -
From: Val [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re:[ZION] World's Tallest Buildings
I agree, John. On NPR this morning, I heard that the original plans
submitted this summer, were
Thanks for the references. I had in mind only one, and I'm too lazy to go look it
up, but I'm sure it's well known to list members, and that's BRMcC's famous Seven
Deadly Heresies talk. Also, if I recall correctly, didn't the Nephites worship
Christ only to a point, after which he told them to
But I don't agree that we're under any compulsion whatsoever to worship the
highest entity or concept we can come up with. We're under compulsion only to
worship God.
George Cobabe wrote:
I do not see the connection between my quote and your comments.
My earlier, not copied comments,
Where were you people during the sixties, and have none of you ever gone to
a health food store? Look at a vegan brownie, and odds'll getcha that it
has carob rather than cocoa.
I know we're not supposed to be OF the world, but every once in a while you
can go out into it! :-)
Jon
P.S. I
No. He should have played golf, wherein you are actually fore-warned.
Jon
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From: Chet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ZION] Curiosity About Alma 1:21
Paul Osborne wrote:
Thomas Jefferson and
In fact, their clusters are in different areas than what we would call racial.
That is, there are several from different parts of Africa, for instance, as well
as a totally different group for Melanesians (who used to be considered blacks by
LDS until DOM's time).
Jim Cobabe wrote:
Stephen
I certainly wouldn't object to that.
Paul Osborne wrote:
Interesting -- I think you might have me there, at least partially, as I
was
unaware of the GBH quote. I suppose I should have defined the term more
tightly
and say that we don't *pray* to Jesus Christ.
Right. I can go along with
This is perhaps a small correction, and I would assume this is what you
meant: I am in support of a war against *Saddam*, hopefully with the
support of the Iraqi people. I am grateful to our leaders for the use of
smart weapons, which will minimize the number of innocent deaths. But for
those
Then, my friend, what is meant by the term eternal progression? Are we
being lied to?
Jon
Paul Osborne wrote:
There is much to learn. To complete the task requires an eternity on
the job.
Not so. When God lays his hands upon my head and ordains me God Almighty
there will be nothing that
Also, if I recall correctly, didn't the Nephites worship
Christ only to a point, after which he told them to worship the Father?
The Nephites worshipped Christ because he was the ETERNAL GOD and they
loved him with all their hearts. It is true that the mortal Jesus taught
the Jews how to pray to
Marc
I certainly wouldn't object to that.
You my friend, are indeed a Christian. :-)
Paul O
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Then, my friend, what is meant by the term eternal progression? Are we
being lied to?
Jon
No, we are not being lied to. You just don't understand what eternal
progression is, Jon. It is a state of never ending progress as worlds
come and go. The size of heavenly Father's kingdom grows with
I didn't ask for those who don't hold that opinion to post, I asked for
those who DO!
I know who made the post, and I do remember it quite well. If no one fesses
up, then I guess they changed their mind!
Jon
Mark Gregson wrote:
This does bring up an interesting topic. On this list,
To perhaps clarify a point, all seminary teachers (and above) are official
signed-on-the-dotted-line volunteer CES employees.
Jon
Geoff FOWLER wrote:
Jim mentioned:
There also seem to be a number of CES employees
who aptly fit the description of wolves among the
flock.
while Jon
-George-
When God created this universe
-Jon-
He did not create this universe. He caused it to be organized.
Big difference!
The prophets and the scriptures are unanimous in declaring that God did,
indeed, create the heavens and the earth. Cause to be organized is
what create means, just
George Cobabe favored us with:
I have followed instructions, receiving a confirming email, but still do not
know the email address to submit posts to. Will that be coming from
smartgroups in another notice forthwith? or do you have it to give to us?
Or have I been blind and just missed it?
To
Why? Since when do those who prefer peace bear responsibility for others' actions?
Do we also bear the responsibility for the thousands of people who have died in
Kashmir simply because they were trying to exercise their right to a free vote in
a democracy (India) from the hands of those who would
Jon Spencer favored us with:
Then, my friend, what is meant by the term eternal progression? Are we
being lied to?
Even though God is truly omniscient, and hence knows EVERYTHING and can no
longer learn new things, he progresses by bringing to pass the immortality
and eternal life of his
Stephen Beecroft favored us with:
The prophets and the scriptures are unanimous in declaring that God did,
indeed, create the heavens and the earth. Cause to be organized is
what create means, just like when you create an email or a songwriter
creates a song. George is right in his usage.
Not
Paul Osborne favored us with:
Bernard P. Brockbank, The Living Christ, Ensign, May 1977, 26
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints worships a God and a
Jesus Christ with bodies, with parts, and with passions.
Which is not to say that we are to pray to Jesus Christ. We are not
Jon Spencer favored us with:
Wimps! You're all wimps!
No, we are just modest and humble in spite of our reasons for being
arrogant. Wouldn't it be nice if our fellow Americans were the
same? Instead they indulge themselves in self-congratulations at every
turn, and build skyscrapers to
Paul Osborne favored us with:
John,
What is the final day or hour when posts can be posted on the Zion list?
I haven't set an exact day, but it will probably be in 5 to 7 days after
everyone has a chance to read their email telling them of the move. --JWR
Paul Osborne favored us with:
Both the Book of Mormon as scripture and Joseph Smith as a prophet bear
witness to Jesus Christ as Savior. The Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl
of Great Price bear that same great witness, as do all of the modern
prophets and apostles. Though all the world may say
The Zion list is moving.
Because of an unacceptable number of problems at Topica, I am moving the
Zion list to SmartGroups. (http://www.smartgroups.com/index.cfm?)
Also, because the software at SmartGroups will not accept a list name of
only four characters, while hosted at SmartGroups the
Jon, there is no difference. In our theology creation means to organize.
At least that is what I meant. :-)
However, He was still the one that organized the Law for this universe.
George
- Original Message -
From: Jon Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday,
I have a special request. Will those of you who have already subscribed to
the new list at SmartGroups.com please post and reply there
only? Complying with this request will help others on the Zion list make
the decision to move over. If we continue strong threads here, the move
will be
IMO:
Topica is no worse than many other free mailing-list services, and is
better than many. Its downtime is actually relatively small, all things
considered. Zion has a history on Topica that now stretches back three
and a half years -- quite a long time in Internet-speak. Finally, if the
You're saying there really are modern deists?
Stacy.
At 04:48 PM 12/18/2002 -0900, you wrote:
Marc A. Schindler favored us with:
Thomas Jefferson was a deist; these days he would probably be a
Unitarian, and Benjamin Franklin was not an observing Christian, either,
from what
I remember. I'm
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