RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-19 Thread Jim Cobabe
Sounds like we need not follow prophetic counsel as long as our circumstances make it inconvenient or uncomfortable for us. Am I getting this right? // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zion

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-19 Thread Jim Cobabe
With regard to applying prophetic counsel, where is the line between personal prerogative and inspiration, and personal apostasy? 2 Sam 6:6-7 And when they came to Nachon's threshingfloor, Uzzah put forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it. And the anger o

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-19 Thread Stacy Smith
The line must be decided individual case by individual case between the person and the bishop, I'm sure. Stacy. At 02:12 PM 09/19/2003 +, you wrote: With regard to applying prophetic counsel, where is the line between personal prerogative and inspiration, and personal apostasy? 2 Sam 6:6-7

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-19 Thread Stacy Smith
Not exactly. Sometimes it can be very uncomfortable to follow prophetic counsel and sometimes circumstantial change does not warrant a change. If there is any difficulty in this, as there has been with me and the fast, one counsels with the bishop. Stacy. At 01:35 PM 09/19/2003 +, you wr

[ZION] apostate working women {was}working woman

2003-09-19 Thread Val
-- Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds like we need not follow prophetic counsel as long as our circumstances make it inconvenient or uncomfortable for us. Am I getting this right? ___ WRONG! This is an unfair, sweeping, judgemental

RE: [ZION] apostate working women {was}working woman

2003-09-19 Thread J Stone
Val wrote: > > > -- Jim Cobabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds like we need not follow prophetic counsel as long as our > circumstances make it inconvenient or uncomfortable for us. > > Am I getting this right? > ___ > > WRONG! > This

Re: [ZION] Language

2003-09-19 Thread Jon Spencer
I read it through as a challenge, and was able to read it fairly quickly, although not as quickly as I could have if the words were properly spelled. Why? I think it is because, for me at least, I pattern match words. When the words are misspelled, the pattern matching is more difficult. Contex

[ZION] confiding in bishops

2003-09-19 Thread Jim Cobabe
"Counsel with the bishop" is a standard answer. As a problem solving strategy, it usually doesn't work at all, at least in my experience. Bishops don't have effective answers for any but the most routine problems. Many of them are good at running LDS wards, but terrible as personal counselo

RE: [ZION] working woman

2003-09-19 Thread Jim Cobabe
Stacy Smith wrote: --- Not exactly. Sometimes it can be very uncomfortable to follow prophetic counsel and sometimes circumstantial change does not warrant a change. If there is any difficulty in this, as there has been with me and the fast, one counsels with the bishop. --- Not sure I under

RE: [ZION] apostate working women {was}working woman

2003-09-19 Thread Jim Cobabe
Val wrote: --- So it depends on which prophetic counsel you are referencing. --- In my view, prophetic counsel is consistent in letter and spirit from one day to the next, through all ages of time. If I see conflicts in the pronouncements from one prophet to another, I must assume that there i

Re: [ZION] confiding in bishops

2003-09-19 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Jim Cobabe wrote: "Counsel with the bishop" is a standard answer. As a problem solving strategy, it usually doesn't work at all, at least in my experience. Bishops don't have effective answers for any but the most routine problems. Many of them are good at running LDS wards, but terrible as