Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing Af

2002-12-01 Thread Stacy Smith
Wouldn't this also mean confession of sin and serious sin where committed? Doesn't that person have an obligation to discuss this with the presiding authority before baptism? If he doesn't, shouldn't he be suspect? Stacy. At 11:05 AM 11/30/2002 -0800, you wrote: As I have been reading this

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing Af

2002-11-30 Thread vicgh25
As I have been reading this issue, the one thing that keeps coming to mind is that phrase: Judge not, lest ye be judged. As I contemplate the numerous helpful tips being given, the one that it appears to me is so many people are trying to get God to renege on his agreement to that individual.

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing Afte

2002-11-27 Thread Elmer L. Fairbank
At 20:18 11/26/2002 -0800, St Stace wrote: Suppose I suspect this individual failed to disclose this information before baptism? If he is now living a good life, does any of this information need to come out? It's a standard question in the temple recommend interview, if there are any past

RE: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing

2002-11-27 Thread larry . jackson
Stacy Smith: Suppose I suspect this individual failed to disclose this information before baptism? If he is now living a good life, does any of this information need to come out? ___ To be baptized, a person who has violated the laws of the land must have completed the terms of

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing

2002-11-27 Thread Paul Osborne
Larry talking about XXX The Church will, however, see that he is never given a calling or position of responsibility involving the youth or the children in the ward. And for good reason. First, it protects children from possible harm. Second it relieves further burden of the former perpetrator

RE: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing

2002-11-27 Thread Stacy Smith
Well, it has been said that he was not honest at his baptismal interview. However, I currently have only second-hand information of this. Stacy. At 08:52 PM 11/27/2002 -0600, you wrote: Stacy Smith: Suppose I suspect this individual failed to disclose this information before baptism? If he

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing After Hav

2002-11-26 Thread Jon Spencer
Certainly, if a person who has committed a crime has satisfied society's requirements as far as punishment and restitution, and the person has also satisfied any Church imposed punishments, s/he can be restored to full membership. Could that man be a Bishop? I guess so, if the Lord wanted him to

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing Afte

2002-11-26 Thread Stacy Smith
Suppose I suspect this individual failed to disclose this information before baptism? If he is now living a good life, does any of this information need to come out? Stacy. At 05:45 PM 11/25/2002 -0600, you wrote: This doesn't violate the charter. All people have the opportunity to repent

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing After

2002-11-26 Thread Stacy Smith
Then what about the safety of blind people who wish to travel? Truly I'm beginning to wonder about our liberties. Stacy. At 12:35 PM 11/25/2002 -0600, you wrote: Jim It is a complicated world we live in. Indeed it is. It wasn't too long ago that a young person could commit murder here in

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing After

2002-11-26 Thread Paul Osborne
Suppose I suspect this individual failed to disclose this information before baptism? If he is now living a good life, does any of this information need to come out? Yes, if the original information was something that should have been referred to the Mission President via the Zone Leaders who

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing Afte

2002-11-26 Thread Stacy Smith
If I tried to make this public what could happen to me? Is this considered gossip? and heresay? Stacy. At 11:22 PM 11/26/2002 -0600, you wrote: Suppose I suspect this individual failed to disclose this information before baptism? If he is now living a good life, does any of this information

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing After

2002-11-26 Thread Stacy Smith
This would be dangerous for us as any assailant could use the mace against us. Stacy. At 11:25 PM 11/26/2002 -0600, you wrote: Then what about the safety of blind people who wish to travel? Truly I'm beginning to wonder about our liberties. Carry mace. I do. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing Afte

2002-11-26 Thread Paul Osborne
If I tried to make this public what could happen to me? Is this considered gossip? and heresay? I don't know about your situation but if I was close to someone whom I was pretty sure had committed a serious sin and was not repenting I would probably let the bishop know about it and leave it in

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing After (NO

2002-11-25 Thread Paul Osborne
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 08:12:26 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My understanding is that there is no policy. I had always thought that God would forgive that individual for past transactions providing he/she goes through the process of rependence. Isn't that what the Gospel is all

Re: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing After H

2002-11-25 Thread Paul Osborne
Jim It is a complicated world we live in. Indeed it is. It wasn't too long ago that a young person could commit murder here in Dallas and walk the streets on parole in a few years. Really. If a person is caught with LSD (acid) doing it on their own time-- they spent more time in jail then those

RE: [ZION] Can Anyone Become A Fully Qualified Member In Good Standing After H

2002-11-24 Thread Jim Cobabe
Stacy, some practical thoughts. If you reflect on this question with any degree of honesty, you already know that there are some things we simply do not ever forgive, notwithstanding the doctrines of the Church and the principles of repentence. It seems to me that societies and cultures deem