Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-09 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jim Fulton wrote at 2006-10-5 08:50 -0400: >Russ Ferriday wrote: >> I'll provide some time for this, Jim. >> I'm no expert on the ZODB, which might be spun as an advantage, and I'm >> prepared to play a supporting role cleaning up doctests, or helping with >> doc organization. This means I don't

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-09 Thread Dieter Maurer
Russ Ferriday wrote at 2006-10-5 13:45 +0100: >I'll provide some time for this, Jim. >I'm no expert on the ZODB, which might be spun as an advantage, and >I'm prepared to play a supporting role cleaning up doctests, or >helping with doc organization. This means I don't mind gathering >spippet

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-09 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jim Fulton wrote at 2006-10-5 08:32 -0400: > ... >I think this is an area where a lot of volunteers could make >contributions. Perhaps we could even schedule some ZODB "Doc days", >similar bug days, but with a different emphasis. > >I won't insist that new work should wait for this effort Good!

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-06 Thread Dmitry Vasiliev
Jim Fulton wrote: Dmitry Vasiliev wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: Thoughts? Is anyone willing to help out? Anybody interested in a ZODB Doc Day? I'll ready to help with the docs. I guess we'll can made some minor API/code cleanup at the same time. But I think "ZODB Doc Days" is unnecessary. The

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Fred Drake
On 10/5/06, Dmitry Vasiliev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What do you think about to use an API documentation tool, epydoc (http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/) for example? Unfortunately I haven't used it myself yet, but the examples looks promising (for example: http://epydoc.sourceforge.net/api/epydoc

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Jim Fulton
Dmitry Vasiliev wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: When I originally developed the ZODB, I created a UML model: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Developer/Models/ZODB This provided a fairly thorough and clear documentation of the ZODB architecture at the time. It still contains useful information. U

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Dmitry Vasiliev
Jim Fulton wrote: When I originally developed the ZODB, I created a UML model: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Developer/Models/ZODB This provided a fairly thorough and clear documentation of the ZODB architecture at the time. It still contains useful information. Unfortunately, the UML mo

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Russ Ferriday
Do you have some favorite documents that you would point me to as most accurate or up to date? Decent clues will be enough to get started.  - Doc in test or source files  - web pages,   - forums chats,   - email threadsWhat should one not bother with (out of date, incorrect, etc.)Anyone else feel f

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Gary Poster
On Oct 5, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: Russ Ferriday wrote: Do you have some favorite documents that you would point me to as most accurate or up to date? No, because I haven't used ZODB documentation much myself. :) Decent clues will be enough to get started. - Doc in test or so

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Russ Ferriday
On 5 Oct 2006, at 14:37, Jim Fulton wrote:Note that I suggest we want new documentation that is executable. Perhaps we can reuse some of this other material, but I'm mainly pointing out that this other content might give some hints about scope or organization. got it.--r Russ Ferriday - Topia S

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Jim Fulton
Russ Ferriday wrote: Do you have some favorite documents that you would point me to as most accurate or up to date? No, because I haven't used ZODB documentation much myself. :) Decent clues will be enough to get started. - Doc in test or source files - web pages, - forums chats, -

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Jim Fulton
Russ Ferriday wrote: I'll provide some time for this, Jim. I'm no expert on the ZODB, which might be spun as an advantage, and I'm prepared to play a supporting role cleaning up doctests, or helping with doc organization. This means I don't mind gathering spippets from those who have them and

Re: [ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Russ Ferriday
I'll provide some time for this, Jim.I'm no expert on the ZODB, which might be spun as an advantage, and I'm prepared to play a supporting role cleaning up doctests, or helping with doc organization. This means I don't mind gathering spippets from those who have them and pulling them together.--rOn

[ZODB-Dev] We need to pay down debt

2006-10-05 Thread Jim Fulton
I'm happy that there is interest in improving ZODB. I think, however, that the most pressing need is for documentation. When I originally developed the ZODB, I created a UML model: http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Developer/Models/ZODB This provided a fairly thorough and clear documentatio