Re: [zones-discuss] zones databases
On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 08:52:29AM +0200, Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Brian, Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 8:31:06 PM, you wrote: BK With the performance boosts included in recent solaris versions I'm BK told that there's not much of a difference between handing the database BK raw devices vs. using a filesystem anymore. BK To test this out, my customer would like to try both ufs and vxfs BK filesystems in the global zone and lofs mount them to a local zone BK and test the database on that lofs mount. BK Are there any options that should be supplied for the lofs mount and BK are there any options for the ufs and/or vxfs mounts that should be BK employed to assure the performance should be close to raw devices? 1. lofs is probably a bad idea - mount them directly into a zone lofs is the only supported option for vxfs. przemol ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
[zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, which personally I find insane and totally against my goal to build a run-time platform that is as lean and as flexible as possible. Why do zone packages and eventually their dependencies like the pool package end up needing Java? As soon as Java is in the game, I can forget a lean and mean run-time platform. Java belongs in the middleware layer, not in the core operating system layer. Is this a bug? Can this be fixed? When can it be fixed? This is in Solaris 10 6/06, and most likely in Solaris 10 1/06 as well. It is simply insane that I have to install Java and X-windows software to get zone functionality, i.e. satisfy package dependencies. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
On 21/08/06, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, Zones needs the 'resource pools' package. If you choose 'dynamic pools' (which aren't required by zones), you need Java. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:13:51AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, which personally I find insane and totally against my goal to build a run-time platform that is as lean and as flexible as possible. Why do zone packages and eventually their dependencies like the pool package end up needing Java? As soon as Java is in the game, I can forget a lean and mean run-time platform. Java belongs in the middleware layer, not in the core operating system layer. Is this a bug? Can this be fixed? When can it be fixed? This is in Solaris 10 6/06, and most likely in Solaris 10 1/06 as well. It is fixed in Nevada. Take a look at: http://scsh280r1.holland.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-1-5063672-1searchclause=5063672 for more details. Gary It is simply insane that I have to install Java and X-windows software to get zone functionality, i.e. satisfy package dependencies. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:03:40PM +0100, Gary Pennington wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:13:51AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, which personally I find insane and totally against my goal to build a run-time platform that is as lean and as flexible as possible. Why do zone packages and eventually their dependencies like the pool package end up needing Java? As soon as Java is in the game, I can forget a lean and mean run-time platform. Java belongs in the middleware layer, not in the core operating system layer. Is this a bug? Can this be fixed? When can it be fixed? This is in Solaris 10 6/06, and most likely in Solaris 10 1/06 as well. It is fixed in Nevada. Take a look at: http://scsh280r1.holland.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-1-5063672-1searchclause=5063672 I'm sorry, that was the wrong URL. That's an internal site and I doubt you can access it. This might be more useful: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=5063672 Gary for more details. Gary It is simply insane that I have to install Java and X-windows software to get zone functionality, i.e. satisfy package dependencies. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
Do you know if there is a plan to make this available as an S10 patch? Gary Pennington wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:03:40PM +0100, Gary Pennington wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:13:51AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, which personally I find insane and totally against my goal to build a run-time platform that is as lean and as flexible as possible. Why do zone packages and eventually their dependencies like the pool package end up needing Java? As soon as Java is in the game, I can forget a lean and mean run-time platform. Java belongs in the middleware layer, not in the core operating system layer. Is this a bug? Can this be fixed? When can it be fixed? This is in Solaris 10 6/06, and most likely in Solaris 10 1/06 as well. It is fixed in Nevada. Take a look at: http://scsh280r1.holland.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-1-5063672-1searchclause=5063672 I'm sorry, that was the wrong URL. That's an internal site and I doubt you can access it. This might be more useful: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=5063672 Gary for more details. Gary It is simply insane that I have to install Java and X-windows software to get zone functionality, i.e. satisfy package dependencies. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- -- Jeff VICTOR Sun Microsystemsjeff.victor @ sun.com OS AmbassadorSr. Technical Specialist Solaris 10 Zones FAQ:http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/faq -- ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] zones databases
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 08:52:29AM +0200, Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Brian, Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 8:31:06 PM, you wrote: BK With the performance boosts included in recent solaris versions I'm BK told that there's not much of a difference between handing the database BK raw devices vs. using a filesystem anymore. BK To test this out, my customer would like to try both ufs and vxfs BK filesystems in the global zone and lofs mount them to a local zone BK and test the database on that lofs mount. BK Are there any options that should be supplied for the lofs mount and BK are there any options for the ufs and/or vxfs mounts that should be BK employed to assure the performance should be close to raw devices? 1. lofs is probably a bad idea - mount them directly into a zone lofs is the only supported option for vxfs. przemol ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org While lofs is the only officially supported option, mounting directly in the zone can be accomplished with a work-around. see: http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/276134.htm ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
