Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-25 Thread Hiram Chirino
Have you guys setup a zookeeper-private list for the zookeeper ppmc + hadoop pmc to have private discussions? If not, I highly recommend it since it would be the only practical viecel for the ppmc to nominate new commiters or raise sensitive issues the the pmc. Regards, HIram On Wed, Jul 23, 2008

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Hiram Chirino
Ok good... as long as the PMC folks are participating it should not be a problem. Regards, Hiram On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Doug Cutting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hiram Chirino wrote: >> >> looks like you guys are not in the PMC. Sorry about that. But it >> bring us a weird governance

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Doug Cutting
Hiram Chirino wrote: looks like you guys are not in the PMC. Sorry about that. But it bring us a weird governance issue which is very anti Apahe.. usually an Apache project is self governed, but from the look of the authorization file, it seems like the zookeeper committers cannot properly sel

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Hiram Chirino
> > Are all you guys also PMC members on Hadoop? > Never mind.. I just looked it up in the asf-authorization file. hadoop-zookeeper=akornev,breed,fpj,mahadev,phunt hadoop-pmc=ab,cutting,dhruba,enis,jimk,nigel,omalley,stack,taton,tomwhite looks like you guys are not in the PMC. Sorry about that.

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Hiram Chirino
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Mahadev Konar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are fully aware of that Hiram. We are still a sub project of Hadoop and > have been on sourceforge for a while. For being a sub project the Hadoop PMC > needs to vote for it. Zookeeper is in the future roadmap of Hadoop

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Mahadev Konar
We are fully aware of that Hiram. We are still a sub project of Hadoop and have been on sourceforge for a while. For being a sub project the Hadoop PMC needs to vote for it. Zookeeper is in the future roadmap of Hadoop for High Availability/ configuration management and mounting of different filesy

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Doug Cutting
Hiram Chirino wrote: Hope your mentors have mentioned that diversity is a good thing. Indeed. Also how did you guys bypass the incubator? The IP title was clear (entirely covered by a software grant from Y!) and the Hadoop PMC was willing to guide the project. Doug

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Doug Cutting
Hiram Chirino wrote: So all the commiters are Yahoo folks? Yes, so far. Hadoop's PMC oversees Zookeeper, and it's not all Y!. http://hadoop.apache.org/who.html Zookeeper hasn't yet been at Apache long. We hope to soon add non-Y! committers to Zookeeper, and are on the watch for folks with

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Hiram Chirino
Hope your mentors have mentioned that diversity is a good thing. Also how did you guys bypass the incubator? On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Mahadev Konar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes they are! > > mahadev > > > On 7/23/08 11:47 AM, "Hiram Chirino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So all the

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Mahadev Konar
Yes they are! mahadev On 7/23/08 11:47 AM, "Hiram Chirino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So all the commiters are Yahoo folks? > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Patrick Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Good question, according to the PoweredBy wiki not too much ;-) >> http://wiki.apache.o

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Patrick Hunt
Yes, it's documented on the web site: http://hadoop.apache.org/zookeeper/credits.html Patrick Hiram Chirino wrote: So all the commiters are Yahoo folks? On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Patrick Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good question, according to the PoweredBy wiki not too much ;-) ht

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Hiram Chirino
So all the commiters are Yahoo folks? On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Patrick Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good question, according to the PoweredBy wiki not too much ;-) > http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/ZooKeeper/PoweredBy > (please update this if your company is using...) > > So far we hav

Re: ZooKeeper community

2008-07-23 Thread Patrick Hunt
Good question, according to the PoweredBy wiki not too much ;-) http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/ZooKeeper/PoweredBy (please update this if your company is using...) So far we have 5 committers (Ben, Andrew, Flavio, Mahadev and myself) and just a few contributors. There are a number of teams usin