[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
(snip)
All said and done, I prefer to use Java over Python
for large applications
Good for you; there are others that share your tastes, but that's all it is:
preference. A good coder could create an equally powerful suitably large
application in either
Rocky Burt wrote:
David H wrote:
Python is also object oriented. In python, x = 10 creates an object not
a simple type - if I recall the same is true in Java.
In fact this is not quite right. In java, int x = 10 produces a
primitive type. Not a class instance at all. In this case x
Well, the class is simply a construct that Java uses to define an object.
Also, the concept of object is well defined in Java which makes it easier
for the programmer to know what can and cannot be done. In Python, it is
not as explicit. Java is a programming language and hence cannot be
--On 6. Januar 2006 10:06:55 -0500 Asad Habib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well, the class is simply a construct that Java uses to define an object.
Also, the concept of object is well defined in Java which makes it easier
for the programmer to know what can and cannot be done. In Python, it is
On 1/6/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python is not a programming language??? huh..the difference is that
Java is compiled and Python is interpreted
*Bt* Wrong again. :)
Both Java and Python compile to bytecode, which a virtual machine then
interprets. In Java this step is
--On 6. Januar 2006 16:39:18 +0100 Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/6/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python is not a programming language??? huh..the difference is that
Java is compiled and Python is interpreted
*Bt* Wrong again. :)
Hairsplitter :-)
-aj
On 1/6/06, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hairsplitter :-)
That's *Mr* __Pedant__ to you, capiche? :P
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On 1/6/06, Asad Habib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, the class is simply a construct that Java uses to define an object.
Also, the concept of object is well defined in Java which makes it easier
for the programmer to know what can and cannot be done. In Python, it is
not as explicit. Java is a
Andreas Jung wrote:
--On 6. Januar 2006 10:06:55 -0500 Asad Habib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well, the class is simply a construct that Java uses to define an object.
Also, the concept of object is well defined in Java which makes it easier
for the programmer to know what can and cannot
On 1/6/06, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Python is intepreted while Java is compiled. That makes Python
superiour in many ways. ;-)
pedant mode=ranting
Python is compiled, then interpreted. Java is compiled, then
interpreted. Java compilation is explicit, Python compilation
implicit.
Actually, that's not true. Languages such as Perl and Python were designed
to write scripts, not to code entire applications. Python is an exception
because it can be successfully used to code large applications, unlike
some other scripting languages. So it's best to call Python a scripting
Here is a document that explains why scripting languages are better than
system programming languages (like C, C++, Java) for creating large
scale applications, for gluing components together, thanks to weak typing:
http://home.pacbell.net/ouster/scripting.html
this too might be
Asad Habib wrote:
(top-post corrected)
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, bruno desthuilliers wrote:
Asad Habib wrote:
(top-post corrected)
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, bruno desthuilliers wrote:
Rocky Burt wrote:
(snip)
In fact I'd go as far as to say that Python seems *more*
object-oriented
than Java.
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 1/6/06, bruno desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not even - Python is byte-compiled too. The difference is that the
Python interpreter (call it 'VM' if you think that 'interpreter' isn't
buzzword-compliant enough) is smart enough to take care of the
compilation
On 1/6/06, bruno desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lennart Regebro wrote:
On 1/6/06, bruno desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not even - Python is byte-compiled too. The difference is that the
Python interpreter (call it 'VM' if you think that 'interpreter' isn't
Asad Habib wrote at 2006-1-6 11:27 -0500:
Actually, that's not true. Languages such as Perl and Python were designed
to write scripts, not to code entire applications. Python is an exception
because it can be successfully used to code large applications, unlike
some other scripting languages.
I was waiting for someone else to mention this and am only adding it
because I haven't seen it yet. To answer you question Why wold anyone
use Java? I present the following:
It's not always about the technology.
Outside of Fortune 1000 america we can debate the merits of differing
J Cameron Cooper wrote:
... I think it's quite acceptable to put the burden of use on the
programmer instead of the compiler, considering the benefits; that's
what he's thinking about anyway, no?
+1
Zope 3, though I admit I've only played with it glancingly, seems to be
more J2EE-like in
On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 21:12:06 -0600, David Johnson wrote:
David - I am new to Zope, but I feel your assessment is correct. We have
developed and deployed very large applications using PHP/C++, and are now
looking to Zope to take us into the next stage. Python seems excellent at
object
Sam Stainsby wrote:
One thing is static type checking: developers detecting type errors at
compile time, rather than some hapless user running into it at run time
(i.e. after release to the public). I see many of those types of errors
in Zope and Plone products, particularly as the API of one
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