Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-23 Thread Chris Withers
Hugo Ramos wrote: I don't know. What I do know is that I'm not a newbie AND I did my homework (google+other sources) before coming here! Then how come you managed to miss Paul Browning and Matt Hamilton's extensive documentation of the subject? Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management,

Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-23 Thread Hugo Ramos
Maybe I just misspelled the word affinity and wrote it with just 1 f afinity... Hey Chris.. Cheer up dude! Try not be this hard to people that just want to learn a bit more... Specially because back in 2000 I had you as a Zope icon in Europe. I'm working in Brazil now... The entire Brazilian

Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-23 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ Hugo Ramos ]-- | | Anyway... There's a lot of jobs for good professionals like you! | Salary is much more than the average Brazilian makes... Maybe this | country could be good for you! :-) Don't worry Hugo, if Chris keeps going the way he's going, eventually he'll

Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-22 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Jeff Donsbach said the following on 2006-03-21 17:26: Dario, Do you have any kind of comparison numbers of using CPU affinity vs not for your particular case? Also, are you using ZEO or not? It's not that I don't believe you when you say it matters a lot for you. I do believe you. Like

Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-22 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Chris Withers said the following on 2006-03-22 01:36: Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: Dario, I actually think your comment here is a bit out of order if you're referring to this post of mine: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2006-March/165574.html yes, it was and I apologise for it, you did

Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-22 Thread Chris Withers
Dario Lopez-Kästen wrote: Unfortunaltey, that is the ways things work, and I think we all have to prepare to be nice to those newbies too. I think we have a right to expect those newbies to be nice back ;-) Generally speaking, with the growing poularity of Zope-solutions, where Plone and

Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-22 Thread Hugo Ramos
Many things were said here... Lots of Kb's spent going around the world... The main question remained unexplained! Maybe Chris didn't know the answer and just directed this thread to another direction where he could be much more exposed as the zope@zope.org father??? I don't know. What I do know

Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-21 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Martijn Pieters said the following on 2006-03-16 12:25: On 3/16/06, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey... but thank you Jens for spending all that time writing an email that doesn't help any1 at all...!!! check google for multiple use of exclamation marks. Or look up Terry

Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-21 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Dario Lopez-Kästen schrieb: ... The fact that the issue of the GIL is not more prominent in the Zope worlds, I think is because relatively few zopistas are aware that there is a problem; mostly, because not so many run multicpu-boxes in production, and also because of attitude, I suppose:

Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-21 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Tino Wildenhain said the following on 2006-03-21 14:51: Otoh, I have yet to see the figures showing the CPU afinity buys you anything in reality. We know the GIL, thats for sure but I never saw a measureable difference binding a process to a CPU (which is also highly depending on the OS

Re: Give it a rest + answers. (Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine)

2006-03-21 Thread Jeff Donsbach
On 3/21/06, Dario Lopez-Kästen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tino Wildenhain said the following on 2006-03-21 14:51: Otoh, I have yet to see the figures showing the CPU afinity buys you anything in reality. We know the GIL, thats for sure but I never saw a measureable difference binding a

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine

2006-03-16 Thread Chris Withers
Hugo Ramos wrote: I think these questions are very ZOPE RELATED since I asked them in a Zope mailing list don't you think? No, we don't. This has nothing specific to do with Zope. Process affinity is an OS-specific thing, and if you care about it you should as on an OS-specific forum. In

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine

2006-03-16 Thread Martijn Pieters
On 3/16/06, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey... but thank you Jens for spending all that time writing an email that doesn't help any1 at all...!!! check google for multiple use of exclamation marks. Or look up Terry Pratchett quotes on www.lspace.org: 'Multiple exclamation

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine

2006-03-15 Thread Hugo Ramos
Yes... But I'm looking for more specific answers about how to create the affinity between 1 of the zope processes and the CPU n.2, for example... How to make that a permanent choice? Cheers Hugo On 3/15/06, Max M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugo Ramos wrote: Yellow, I'm using Zope+Apache

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine

2006-03-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
On 15 Mar 2006, at 21:11, Hugo Ramos wrote: Yes... But I'm looking for more specific answers about how to create the affinity between 1 of the zope processes and the CPU n.2, for example... How to make that a permanent choice? This question has nothing to do with Zope. You will need to find

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine

2006-03-15 Thread Hugo Ramos
Has any1 tried this before? Can you point me to some documentation? What's your experience? is it true that not doing this the 4 cpu's will not be 100% used? I think these questions are very ZOPE RELATED since I asked them in a Zope mailing list don't you think? I'm asking about Zope

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine

2006-03-15 Thread Jeff Donsbach
On 3/15/06, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That question is not Zope specific -- you would need to modify the start scripts for your appservers to make whatever kernel / libc-specific calls are needed (on Solaris, it would be invoking the 'pbind' command). In the worst case, you would

Re: [Zope] Re: Zope + Apache on Quad Debian machine

2006-03-15 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Hugo Ramos schrieb: Has any1 tried this before? Can you point me to some documentation? What's your experience? is it true that not doing this the 4 cpu's will not be 100% used? I think these questions are very ZOPE RELATED since I asked them in a Zope mailing list don't you think? I'm