Re: [Zope-dev] getting request variables values

2000-07-21 Thread Steve Alexander

Chris Withers wrote:
 
 Evan Simpson wrote:
  The value you're after is stored in the 'environ' section of the request.
  Unlike 'other' and 'cookies' keys, 'environ' keys can't generally be fetched
  as attributes or keys of REQUEST.  You need to access them as
  REQUEST.environ['keyname'].
 
 Heh, I thought so, I presume REQUEST.get won't get out of environ
 either?
 
 I posted this in the collector and was told it behaved as expected (and
 would suck the key out of any of the sub-dictionaries)
 
 What's the real story? ;-)

I'm looking at 2.2.0final.

From the comments in the code, it *ought* to look in the environment
first.

  def __getitem__/__getattr__ from HTTPRequest.py:

"""Get a variable value

Return a value for the required variable name.
The value will be looked up from one of the request data
categories. The search order is environment variables,
other variables, form data, and then cookies. 

"""

However, looking in the code, it starts off by looking in "other", and
doesn't look in "environ" at all.

I suggest a patch to go right after the method's docstring:

def __getitem__(self,key,
default=_marker, # Any special internal marker will
do
URLmatch=regex.compile('URL[0-9]+$').match,
BASEmatch=regex.compile('BASE[0-9]+$').match,
):
"""Get a variable value

Return a value for the required variable name.
The value will be looked up from one of the request data
categories. The search order is environment variables,
other variables, form data, and then cookies. 

""" #"
+   environ=self.environ
+   if environ.has_key(key):
+   return environ[key]
other=self.other
if other.has_key(key):
if key=='REQUEST': return self
return other[key]


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Re: [Zope-dev] getting request variables values

2000-07-21 Thread Steve Alexander

Steve Alexander wrote:
 
 However, looking in the code, it starts off by looking in "other", and
 doesn't look in "environ" at all.
 
 I suggest a patch to go right after the method's docstring:
 
 def __getitem__(self,key,
 default=_marker, # Any special internal marker will
 do
 URLmatch=regex.compile('URL[0-9]+$').match,
 BASEmatch=regex.compile('BASE[0-9]+$').match,
 ):
 """Get a variable value
 
 Return a value for the required variable name.
 The value will be looked up from one of the request data
 categories. The search order is environment variables,
 other variables, form data, and then cookies.
 
 """ #"
 +   environ=self.environ
 +   if environ.has_key(key):
 +   return environ[key]
 other=self.other
 if other.has_key(key):
 if key=='REQUEST': return self
 return other[key]


Ok... I was wrong :-/

A bit later we have:

if isCGI_NAME(key) or key[:5] == 'HTTP_':
environ=self.environ
if environ.has_key(key) and (not hide_key(key)):
return environ[key]
return ''

I was only sort-of wrong though :-)

The code certainly doesn't stick exactly to its docstring. The "other"
dictionary is seached first, then URLx where x is a number.
Then "environ" is searched, but *only* if the key begins with 'HTTP_' or
is in the following list:

SERVER_SOFTWARE, SERVER_NAME, GATEWAY_INTERFACE, SERVER_PROTOCOL,
SERVER_PORT, REQUEST_METHOD, PATH_INFO, PATH_TRANSLATED, SCRIPT_NAME,
QUERY_STRING, REMOTE_HOST, REMOTE_ADDR, AUTH_TYPE, REMOTE_USER,
REMOTE_IDENT, CONTENT_TYPE, CONTENT_LENGTH, SERVER_URL

Looking in Leonardo's sample environment, a posted to this list, there's
a lot of keys that won't get matched:

SSL_*
HTTPS_*
REMOTE_PORT
SERVER_ROOT
SERVER_SIGNATURE


My question is "why was __getitem__ of HTTPRequest.py designed this
way?".

Is there a good reason that it filters the keys according to membership
of a standard-cgi-keys list, or whether they start with 'HTTP_' ?
Would there be any disadvantage to altering __getitem__ so that it
behaves according to its docstring?

If so, the patch would probably be something like:

line 753.
 """ #"
 +   environ=self.environ
 +   if environ.has_key(key) and (not hide_key(key)):
 +   return environ[key]
 other=self.other
 if other.has_key(key):
 if key=='REQUEST': return self
 return other[key]

if key[:1]=='U' and URLmatch(key) = 0:
path = self._script + self._steps
n = len(path) - atoi(key[3:])
if n  0:
raise KeyError, key
URL=join([other['SERVER_URL']] + path[:n], '/')
other[key]=URL
self._urls = self._urls + (key,)
return URL

-   if isCGI_NAME(key) or key[:5] == 'HTTP_':
-   environ=self.environ
-   if environ.has_key(key) and (not hide_key(key)):
-   return environ[key]
-   return ''

Comments?

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Re: [Zope-dev] getting request variables values

2000-07-21 Thread Steve Alexander

Steve Alexander wrote:
 
 My question is "why was __getitem__ of HTTPRequest.py designed this
 way?".
 
 Is there a good reason that it filters the keys according to membership
 of a standard-cgi-keys list, or whether they start with 'HTTP_' ?
 Would there be any disadvantage to altering __getitem__ so that it
 behaves according to its docstring?

...although the class docstring says that the environment variable names
are as in the CGI specification
(http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/cgi/env.html). It doesn't say that they
should **only** be from the CGI specification, though.

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[Zope-dev] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-21 Thread Yves-Eric Martin

Hi Zopistas,


This is the second alpha release of zzLocale, a Zope locale support
Product.

zzLocale provides a framework for Zope interface internationalization
(Zope and Products management screens). The localization is done on a
per request basis, which allows developers from different countries to
work on the same Zope while each of them having an interface in his
native language.

With zzLocale, Product developers can easily provide localized
interfaces for their Products. All that is needed is to put the
localized interface DTML templates in a "locales/[lang]" subdirectory of
the Product, and zzLocale does the rest.

This version of zzLocale is pretty useable, and usually falls back
nicely when something goes wrong. However, it is still alpha, and we
would not recommend using it on a production server.

This release includes a complete (I mean, as complete as current
zzLocale features permit) French interface, and a partial Japanese one.
Tranlators are welcome to provide other languages. Please send us your
translated templates so that we can include them in the next release.


  For more information and download:
http://www.zope.ne.jp/users/yemartin/zzLocale



  Regards,


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Re: [Zope-dev] getting request variables values

2000-07-21 Thread Shane Hathaway

Steve Alexander wrote:
 My question is "why was __getitem__ of HTTPRequest.py designed this
 way?".
 
 Is there a good reason that it filters the keys according to membership
 of a standard-cgi-keys list, or whether they start with 'HTTP_' ?
 Would there be any disadvantage to altering __getitem__ so that it
 behaves according to its docstring?

I looked at the entire history of that code.  This algorithm dates back
to 1996.

I think the issue is that environ may include the Zope process
environment variables, such as PATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, CVSROOT, USER,
etc.  Publish.publish_module() appears to pass in os.environ .  That's
just a quick analysis, though.

Shane

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Re: [Zope-dev] Redirecting from the manage interfaces.

2000-07-21 Thread Dieter Maurer

Erik Enge wrote:
  call, it won't redirect.  So you should be able to achieve the same
  results just by invoking manage_addImage without including the REQUEST
  object.
 
 But I have to pass something with the REQUEST, or else it won't add the
 image, right?
I do not think so.

"manage_addImage" does not need REQUEST to add the image.
The request is only used to redirect.


Dieter

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[Zope] HowTo use LoginManager

2000-07-21 Thread Wolfgang Klinger

Hi!

There's no HowTo ... so my question is ...
(my friend who runs the server hasn't installed it yet)
How do I use LoginManager?

I'm relatively new to Zope .. so please be quite detailed
in your explanations. Thx!

(What I'm searching for are details or whatever)

TIA
Wolfgang



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Re: [Zope] gvib InterBase DA, undefined symbol crypt

2000-07-21 Thread David Trudgett

At 2000-07-21 00:40 -0400, Jeff Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, David Trudgett wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  After having successfully installed the gvib InterBase DA on a test 
 machine
  running Red Hat Linux 6.1, I'm not having the same luck on the production
  box running RH 6.0. Here's what happens:
 
  $ python
import gvib
  Traceback (innermost last):
 File "stdin", line 1, in ?
 File "/usr/local/Zope-2.1.6/lib/python/Products/gvibDA/gvib/gvib.py",
  line 46, in ?
   import gvibBase
  ImportError: /usr/lib/libgds.so: undefined symbol: crypt

I'm perplexed. The only time I've run into this problem was when I forgot
to link with libcrypt. Deja didn't turn up anything useful, either.

I hate to point out the obvious, but, by default the Linux section in
Setup.in reads:

   #
   # Use this on Linux.
   #
   #gvibBase gvibBase.c -D$(GVDEF) -I$(PYDIR) -L$(IBLIB)  -lgds -lcrypt

Note the comment. You need to comment the Solaris line, and uncomment the
Linux line. In reality, the link with libcrypt is the only thing
differentiating the two.

Unfortunately, the compile will still succeed without -lcrypt being
specified. You won't see the problem until you try to import the module,
as seen above.

  so is there anyone here who can suggest how I might fix this? (By the way,
  the compile went through without a problem, and there was a -lcrypt on the
  appropriate Setup.in line).

One other thought. The first time you run:

   make -f Makefile.pre.in boot

a Setup file is created. If you then change Setup.in, you need to delete
Setup and re-execute the above line. Otherwise, the changes won't be
reflected.

Jeff hit the nail on the head with that one. I've replied to him personally 
and thanked him. What I had done was inadvertently run the make -f before I 
had edited the Setup.in file. I then edited the file as I should have and 
re-ran make -f without realising I had to delete the file called "Setup". 
Ignorance is a curse. Anyway, this little tip will no doubt help someone 
else in the future.

David Trudgett


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[Zope] all DTML Methods of current folder and subfolder

2000-07-21 Thread Wolfgang Klinger

Hi!

I have a dtml method in a folder which should
display all "document_title"s of all 
"DTML Method"s in the current folder and
all sub folders!

(should work as navigation frame)

How can I do that?

I tried 
dtml-in "Info.objectValues(['DTML Method'])"
where "Info" is the current folder where the
method itself is stored
but that didn't work ... :-(

any suggestions?

tia
Wolfgang


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Re: [Zope] Broken products in 2.2 - bug?

2000-07-21 Thread Peter Arvidsson

Unfortunately I deleted the product and then made an equal product (after that
it worked) so I cant tell if this was a bug. I'll let someone else who has the
same problems try it.

Peter


Dieter Maurer skrev:

 Peter Arvidsson writes:
   The strange thing is that the product itself is not broken only all the
   instances become broken everytime I restart...
 Try the following:

   delete the products (okay start with a single one, just to try)
 from "ControlPanel/Products" (this of cause will be possible).

   restart Zope: look at ControlPanel/Products.

   Maybe, you now have a broken product with a traceback telling
   you the problem cause.

 By magic, Zope retains products in some cases when there is
 a problem during import without showing any indication
 of the problem (someone told in the list, that
 something is written to a log file, if logging is enabled).

 By removing the product manually, I hope Zope will show
 you the problem.

 If my proposal works indeed, then this product retaining
 behaviour is more a bug than a feature.

 Dieter


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[Zope] Datebug?

2000-07-21 Thread Peter Arvidsson

I have encountered a strange and irritating problem. As I live in Sweden
we use timezone 'GMT+1'. I have a form like this:

dtml-var standard_html_header
form action="a"
input type="text" size="15" name="date:date" value="dtml-var ZopeTime
fmt=%Y-%m-%d"
input type="submit"
/form
dtml-var standard_html_footer

And when I press submit I come to this page:

dtml-var standard_html_header
input type="text" value="dtml-var date  fmt=%Y-%m-%d"
dtml-var standard_html_footer

The input field are correctly displaying the date (in GMT+1) but when I
submit the form and use the "fmt" the date is displayed with a decrease
of 24 hours. Like if I write 2000-07-21 in the input-field the next page
will display 2000-07-20. I I dont format the date on the second page the
same date will be shown.

It cant really be a timezone issue because it is decreasing the date by
24 hours and I only live 1 hour from GMT. The date on my computer and
the server are correct. Does someone knows why this happens when I use
"fmt" or is this a DateTime bug?


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Re: [Zope] Display the icon of a meta_type

2000-07-21 Thread Gerard Metrailler Jr.

Hello,

At 22:42 20.07.2000 +, Maik Roeder wrote:
  I am using a ZCatalog object on my site. When I do a query, I want the
  results do display the meta_type of the document found with it's icon.
I've
  seen that on Zope.org and loved this idea... the only problem is that it
is
  a method on zope.org that does the trick (!--#var
  "icon_for_meta_type(REQUEST,meta_type=meta_type)"--) and I don't have
the
  source for it.

It's all there ;-)

http://www.zope.org/SiteIndex/search/icon_for_meta_type/view_source

OK, sometimes, I really feel stupid.

Thank you very much.

Best regards,

Gérard Métrailler Jr.


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[Zope] a very simple question

2000-07-21 Thread pbiot



Sorry for this question, but I want to understand a DTML example which is in the DTML.pdf

The sendmail example oblige to put the different variables on :
- the variables subject and body are supplied from the FeedbackForm
- the variables support and feedback are supplied from Folder properties 

I don't understand why (the different variables may be defined on the Feedbacksend dtml document no ???)
Another problem is : on my feedback Form I can change the subject and object value, but, when I add an input to change the support value, the parameter on the line command is change, but the mail is send on the default adress. 

The example :

dtml-var standard_html_header
dtml-sendmail smtphost=gator.digicool.com
To: Product Support dtml-var support
From: Web Feedback Form dtml-var feedback
Subject: dtml-var subject
dtml-var body
/dtml-sendmail
Thank you for your input!
dtml-var standard_html_footer

Figure 14. A sample document that uses the dtml-sendmail tag

dtml-var standard_html_header
H2We want your input!/H2
form action=SendFeedback
Destination : input type=text name=support size=40 
br
Subject: input type=text name=subject size=40
br
textarea name=body rows=10 cols=50
/textareabr
input type=submit value=Send Feedback
/form
dtml-var standard_html_footer

Figure 15. A feedback form that collects a subject and body from a user and submits them to the SendFeedback document
shown in figure 14.

Excuse me for my English, but I'm a little french developper without any experience 

Re: [Zope] Datebug?

2000-07-21 Thread Chris Withers

Peter Arvidsson wrote:
 It cant really be a timezone issue because it is decreasing the date by
 24 hours and I only live 1 hour from GMT. The date on my computer and
 the server are correct. Does someone knows why this happens when I use
 "fmt" or is this a DateTime bug?

It could be one of a number of bugs. :(

What version of Zope are you using?

Try 2.2 and see fi it still happens...

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope] Enitity syntax and 2.2

2000-07-21 Thread Chris Withers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 And how about:
 
 dtml.missing-REQUEST.form['foo'];

over my dead body! ;-)

I thought the point of the entity syntax was to keep it simple... which
including python expressions does not...

cheers,

Chris

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RE: [Zope] URL quoting in python

2000-07-21 Thread Duncan Booth



 I often create an external method for this...
 
 em:
 
 def url_quote(s):
import urllib
return urllib.quote_plus(s, safe='')
 
 Silly, but it works.
 
 I think the alternative is to hack the DT_Util.py module in the
 DocumentTemplate directory to expose urllib or a derived function.

Isn't an external method a bit overkill? It is possible to just create a 
DTML Method called url_quote where the body is:
dtml-var s url_quote

(making sure there is no whitespace before this line, and no 
newline after it.)

Then from any other DTML method you just call it remembering to 
pass in the parameter by name.

e.g. 
 dtml-call 
"RESPONSE.redirect(URL1+'?foo_bar='+url_quote(s=ufoobar))"  

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Re: [Zope] Entity syntax and 2.2

2000-07-21 Thread andres

On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 10:05:08AM +0100, Chris Withers wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  And how about:
  
  dtml.missing-REQUEST.form['foo'];
 
 over my dead body! ;-)
 
 I thought the point of the entity syntax was to keep it simple... which
 including python expressions does not...
 

Okay, let me see how I can roll over you! ;-)

Perhaps you can suggest a simple way to do something like the following:

dtml-if "REQUEST.form.has_key('foo')"
  dtml-let previouslyEnteredValue="REQUEST.form['foo']
 input type=text ... value="dtml-previouslyEnteredValue;"
  /dtml-let
dtml-else
 input type=text ... value=""
/dtml-if

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[Zope] (XML-RPC) Calling Database.manage_pack

2000-07-21 Thread Oleg Broytmann

Hello!

   I wrote a simple script to pack Data.fs on a regular basis. It is very
simple, actually, just
   
urllib.urllretrieve("http://my.zope/Control_Panel/Database/manage_pack?days:float=3")
(a little bit harder than that, but I did it)

   Now I am trying to achieve the same with XML-RPC. No luck. How can I
pass "days" parameter?

   server = xmlrpclib.Server("http://my.zope", BasicAuthTransport(login, password))

   server.Control_Panel.Database.manage_pack(3) does not work - Zope
returns an error abou invalid value,

   server.Control_Panel.Database.manage_pack(days=3) does not run at all -
args expected to be a list, not a hash...

Oleg.(All opinions are mine and not of my employer)
 
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Re: [Zope] second step (many of You are going to laungh ;-)

2000-07-21 Thread Peter Bengtsson

Use the QuickStart tutorial included in the Zope.
Or. Go back to zope.org and download various tutorials

A really useful thing to do, is to understand how Zope is built and what you
can do with it. There are lots of good article links on the .org site.
- Original Message -
From: Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 8:21 PM
Subject: [Zope] second step (many of You are going to laungh ;-)


 Hi,

 I just download Zope today, and I am wondering how I am going to start
 toding something.

 May somebody tell me whath is the first step to do to put a custom HTML
page
 into ZOPE ?

 (I started the server, I can access the 'manage' tools -
 server:8080/manage),

 I guess I need to creat my HTML page with notepad, ultraedit or whatever,
 but the next step ?
 Creat a ZOPE object linked to this HTML page ? No idea how to do that...


 Thanks a lot

 Vincent


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[Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-21 Thread Yves-Eric Martin

Hi Zopistas,


This is the second alpha release of zzLocale, a Zope locale support
Product.

zzLocale provides a framework for Zope interface internationalization
(Zope and Products management screens). The localization is done on a
per request basis, which allows developers from different countries to
work on the same Zope while each of them having an interface in his
native language.

With zzLocale, Product developers can easily provide localized
interfaces for their Products. All that is needed is to put the
localized interface DTML templates in a "locales/[lang]" subdirectory of
the Product, and zzLocale does the rest.

This version of zzLocale is pretty useable, and usually falls back
nicely when something goes wrong. However, it is still alpha, and we
would not recommend using it on a production server.

This release includes a complete (I mean, as complete as current
zzLocale features permit) French interface, and a partial Japanese one.
Tranlators are welcome to provide other languages. Please send us your
translated templates so that we can include them in the next release.


  For more information and download:
http://www.zope.ne.jp/users/yemartin/zzLocale



  Regards,


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Re: [Zope] Entity syntax and 2.2

2000-07-21 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton

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| Perhaps you can suggest a simple way to do something like the following:
| 
| dtml-if "REQUEST.form.has_key('foo')"
|   dtml-let previouslyEnteredValue="REQUEST.form['foo']
|  input type=text ... value="dtml-previouslyEnteredValue;"
|   /dtml-let
| dtml-else
|  input type=text ... value=""
| /dtml-if

Replace the whole mess with:-

input type="TEXT" value="dtml.missing-foo;"


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Re: [Zope] all DTML Methods of current folder and subfolder

2000-07-21 Thread Gerard Metrailler Jr.

Hello,

At 07:21 21.07.2000 +, Wolfgang Klinger wrote:
I have a dtml method in a folder which should
display all "document_title"s of all
"DTML Method"s in the current folder and
all sub folders!

(should work as navigation frame)

How can I do that?

I tried
dtml-in "Info.objectValues(['DTML Method'])"
where "Info" is the current folder where the
method itself is stored
but that didn't work ... :-(

Try using PARENTS[0] instead of Info if you want to display the current 
folder content. I am using the following (with a few sorting options for 
the dtml-in tag) in a ZClass (inheriting from CatalogAware and Folder) I 
created to render the content of the current folder.

dtml-in  "PARENTS[0].objectValues(['DTML Method'])"
dtml-var title_or_id
/dtml-in

Best regards,

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[Zope] ZEO

2000-07-21 Thread Sven Hohage

Hallo,
is the filesize of the Zope Storage Server also  limited to 2 GB?
Thanks


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Re: [Zope] all DTML Methods of current folder and subfolder

2000-07-21 Thread George Donnelly

sorry to butt-in on this thread :^)

how can i get the contents of sub-folders as well?

i tried ZopeFind but i am just getting errors.

thanks

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 At 07:21 21.07.2000 +, Wolfgang Klinger wrote:
 I have a dtml method in a folder which should
 display all "document_title"s of all
 "DTML Method"s in the current folder and
 all sub folders!
 
 (should work as navigation frame)
 
 How can I do that?
 
 I tried
 dtml-in "Info.objectValues(['DTML Method'])"
 where "Info" is the current folder where the
 method itself is stored
 but that didn't work ... :-(
 
 Try using PARENTS[0] instead of Info if you want to display the current
 folder content. I am using the following (with a few sorting options for
 the dtml-in tag) in a ZClass (inheriting from CatalogAware and Folder) I
 created to render the content of the current folder.
 
 dtml-in  "PARENTS[0].objectValues(['DTML Method'])"
 dtml-var title_or_id
 /dtml-in


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Re: [Zope] ZEO

2000-07-21 Thread Martijn Pieters

On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 12:46:11PM +0200, Sven Hohage wrote:
 is the filesize of the Zope Storage Server also  limited to 2 GB?

If you are running on a default Linux filesystem, the answer is yes. ZODB
FileStorage isn't limited to 2GB, it's the filesystem that can't handle larger
files that is the problem.

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Re: [Zope] Entity syntax and 2.2

2000-07-21 Thread andres

Thanks guys,

 
 Replace the whole mess with:-
 
 input type="TEXT" value="dtml.missing-foo;"
 

 input type=text ... value="dtml-var "REQUEST.for['foo']" html_quote
 missing
 
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[Zope] ZUBB/Ztree permission problem

2000-07-21 Thread Riku Voipio

Unless the ZDiscussion object has Anonymous/access information 
permission, nobody, including manager and owner, can't access the 
The Zdiscussion which has any content. 

running ZDiscussions-0.3.2 on Zope 2.1.6-5 Debian/Frozen. 

traceback follows:

Traceback (innermost last):
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 214, in publish_module
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 179, in publish
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 165, in publish
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
(Object: index_html)
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 102, in call_object
(Object: index_html)
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/OFS/DTMLMethod.py, line 150, in __call__
(Object: index_html)
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 504, in __call__
(Object: index_html)
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/TreeDisplay/TreeTag.py, line 154, in render
(Object: a tree tag)
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/TreeDisplay/TreeTag.py, line 245, in tpRender
(Object: ElementWithAttributes)
  File /usr/lib/zope/lib/python/TreeDisplay/TreeTag.py, line 321, in tpRenderTABLE
(Object: ElementWithAttributes)
Unauthorized: [0, 1, 2, 3]


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Re: [Zope] Entity syntax and 2.2

2000-07-21 Thread Shane Hathaway

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Perhaps you can suggest a simple way to do something like the following:
 
 dtml-if "REQUEST.form.has_key('foo')"
   dtml-let previouslyEnteredValue="REQUEST.form['foo']
  input type=text ... value="dtml-previouslyEnteredValue;"
   /dtml-let
 dtml-else
  input type=text ... value=""
 /dtml-if

dtml-let value="REQUEST.get('foo', '')"
  input type=text ... value="dtml-value;"
/dtml-let

This is probably the best you're going to get. :-)

Shane

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Re: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan

2000-07-21 Thread Peter Bengtsson

IN SWEDISH - ABOUT SWEDISH

Finns det ett intresse av fler an mig att jobba med detta?
Om, det gor det, hur manga blir vi, och hur ska vi lagga upp arbetet?

Smidigast vore ju att ge deltagare access till .dtml filer, med version'ing,
pa en och samma server.
Syftet ar nog mest att skriva om sidor som klienter kan tenkas anvanda.

Intresserad?

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From: Yves-Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 10:53 AM
Subject: [Zope] zzLocale 0-0-3a released on Zope Japan


 Hi Zopistas,


 This is the second alpha release of zzLocale, a Zope locale support
 Product.

 zzLocale provides a framework for Zope interface internationalization
 (Zope and Products management screens). The localization is done on a
 per request basis, which allows developers from different countries to
 work on the same Zope while each of them having an interface in his
 native language.

 With zzLocale, Product developers can easily provide localized
 interfaces for their Products. All that is needed is to put the
 localized interface DTML templates in a "locales/[lang]" subdirectory of
 the Product, and zzLocale does the rest.

 This version of zzLocale is pretty useable, and usually falls back
 nicely when something goes wrong. However, it is still alpha, and we
 would not recommend using it on a production server.

 This release includes a complete (I mean, as complete as current
 zzLocale features permit) French interface, and a partial Japanese one.
 Tranlators are welcome to provide other languages. Please send us your
 translated templates so that we can include them in the next release.


   For more information and download:
 http://www.zope.ne.jp/users/yemartin/zzLocale



   Regards,


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RE: [Zope] ZCatalog dynamic sites

2000-07-21 Thread Chris McDonough

Dimitris,

Yes, ZCatalog cannot index methods which require call arguments.  Pages
generated from SQL data either use "brains" of SQL methods or squery
string arguments of a DTML method, and therefore need to be passed
arguments and cannot be cataloged.


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Subject: [Zope] ZCatalog  dynamic sites


Hi all,
I have a Zope site that uses MySQL to dynamically create some pages.
What I want is the ability to search throughout the site, INCLUDING
the pages that are database-driven. It seems to me that ZCatalog only 
finds items that exist *in zope*.

Is it something ZCatalog can't do or am I missing anything obvious ?
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Re: [Zope] Zope-killer: zSQL method that crashes Zope

2000-07-21 Thread Daniel Rusch

If it matters to anyone, Andy isn't the only one with Zope killing ZSQL
Methods 
I just spent way too much time trying to figure out why our stage enviroment
was crashing.
Turns out to be a ZSQL method which fails. Of course it wasn't wrapped in a
try/except .
Oh well, so much for standards...!

DR


Andy Gates wrote:

 Here's a thing.  Those problems I was having with some sort of Zope-killing
 page have been tracked down to a particular zSQL method.

 The zSQL method is duff, in that is should fail - the perils of late-night
 coding on decaf, I fear - but it should fail neatly with a Zope error, not
 crash out the Python interpreter and force some poor schmuck to restart the
 limping Zope process.  I don't know whether this is a peculiarity to my
 setup (NT4SP6, IIS4, Zope2, Access97 database) or a general problem;
 perhaps some of the developer-hatted Zopistas could take a look?

 The poison SQL is this:

 select (dtml-var field, field2)
 from tablename
 where (field1= dtml-sqlvar parameter1 type=string
and dtml-var field  '')

 Where two parameters are passed to the method, namely "field" and
 "parameter1".  parameter1 is fed in as a dtml-sqlvar and searches against
 the table's field1 column.  field is passed in as a dtml-var and is used to
 define which of the table's other fields is retruned.  field2 is always
 returned.

 What makes the SQL duff is the parentheses around the fields in the first
 part of the SELECT.  They're not required and if you remove them to produce
 the zSQL below, it works fine.

 select dtml-var field, field2
 from tablename
 where (field1= dtml-sqlvar parameter1 type=string
and dtml-var field  '

 So why does it kill Python?  I'm only vaguely concerned now that I've found
 the fault, because of course the SQL is canned and no developer could get
 their hands on it - but this experience redoubles my acceptance of the
 notion of canned SQL!

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[Zope] Zope and Mac

2000-07-21 Thread Tom Scheidt

Hi,

I'm having problems installing products from a Macintosh. I downloaded them
onto my hard drive and uncompressed the .tgz files with Stuffit Expander. I
then FTPed them with Fetch to my server, then restarted Zope. The products
were listed in the Product Management folder, but they had broken icons and
were not showing up in the "Add" list. I did not have this problem when
doing the exact same thing on a PC. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks.


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Re: [Zope] Datebug?

2000-07-21 Thread Erich Seifert

Hi Peter,

I had the same problem.
The fmt tag outputs GMT time but the methods of DateTime, i.e. day(), month(),
year(), etc. do not. So I used them.

Peter Arvidsson wrote:
 
 Forgot to say that... I run 2.2 final :/
 
 Chris Withers skrev:
 
  Peter Arvidsson wrote:
   It cant really be a timezone issue because it is decreasing the date by
   24 hours and I only live 1 hour from GMT. The date on my computer and
   the server are correct. Does someone knows why this happens when I use
   "fmt" or is this a DateTime bug?
 
  It could be one of a number of bugs. :(
 
  What version of Zope are you using?
 
  Try 2.2 and see fi it still happens...
 
  cheers,
 
  Chris
 
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Re: [Zope] Zope and Mac

2000-07-21 Thread Peter Bengtsson

Have had similar problems, but not on Mac, but on Windows98.
My problem has been that IE saves files from zope.org with a different
extension than that show on the Products page. This has caused archives to
be incomplete, hence broken products.

If you download a xxx.tar.gz, make sure it's called so on your Mac desktop
as well.
Maybe a Windows problem?
- Original Message -
From: Tom Scheidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 2:59 PM
Subject: [Zope] Zope and Mac


 Hi,

 I'm having problems installing products from a Macintosh. I downloaded
them
 onto my hard drive and uncompressed the .tgz files with Stuffit Expander.
I
 then FTPed them with Fetch to my server, then restarted Zope. The products
 were listed in the Product Management folder, but they had broken icons
and
 were not showing up in the "Add" list. I did not have this problem when
 doing the exact same thing on a PC. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks.


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[Zope] Catalog contains items, but no results

2000-07-21 Thread ed colmar

Hmmm,  more catalog strangeness..

I've finally gotten my product to add objects to a catalog correctly (with
the correct URL) Whee!   

On my 2.2 development machine all appears fine, but on the 2.1.6 production
server all searches come back with no results.  When I look in "cataloged
objects" in the management interface, there are many objects with correct
URLs...???

Obviously I could just upgrade the production server, but I'm curious if
there's something inherently wrong with my code.

This is a sample of a call that I make to the Catalog.

base_url=self.site_url()
self.Catalog.catalog_object(ob,base_url+'/Promoters/'+id)

Thanks for any ideas.

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[Zope] Zope with Apache

2000-07-21 Thread James W. Howe

We are running Zope behind an Apache server.  We've got things configured 
so that it mostly works.  However, we noticed that the "breadcrumbs" list 
at the top of a workspace screen doesn't work correctly.  For example, if 
I'm looking at the object /Foo/Bar/Baz, the list of items in the 
breadcrumbs might look like this:

DTMLDocument at /Foo / Bar / Baz

The links to Foo and Bar do not correctly take into account the extra item 
needed to tell Apache that the link goes to the Zope site.  For example, 
the link to Foo needs to say something like

http://foo.bar.com/Zope/Foo/manage_workspace

instead of

http://foo.bar.com/Foo/manage_workspace

The tabs for the management screens work fine, however.

Has anyone else encountered this and is this a bug in Zope, or simply a 
configuration issue that I need to resolve.  If its a configuration issue, 
what would I need to change.

Thanks.

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Re: [Zope] Zope and Mac

2000-07-21 Thread Tom Scheidt

Thanks for your help.

It seems to download an uncompress fine. It's alos showing up in the Zope
management interface, but I get this when I look at the product in the
Product Management Folder:

Traceback (innermost last):
  File "/usr/local/Zope-2.1.5-src/lib/python/OFS/Application.py", line 395,
in import_products
product=__import__(pname, global_dict, global_dict, silly)
  File "/home/tscheidt/Products/PMPSurvey/__init__.py", line 1
 __doc__ = """Survey Product Initialization Module"""
__version__ = 'v0.01'[1:]

import Survey
import Question

def initialize(context):
  context.registerClass(
  Survey.Survey,
  constructors = (
Survey.manage_addSurveyForm,
Survey.manage_addSurvey),
  icon = 'survey_icon.gif'
  )
 ^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax


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 From: "Peter Bengtsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 15:44:33 +0100
 To: "Tom Scheidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope and Mac
 
 Have had similar problems, but not on Mac, but on Windows98.
 My problem has been that IE saves files from zope.org with a different
 extension than that show on the Products page. This has caused archives to
 be incomplete, hence broken products.
 
 If you download a xxx.tar.gz, make sure it's called so on your Mac desktop
 as well.
 Maybe a Windows problem?
 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Scheidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 2:59 PM
 Subject: [Zope] Zope and Mac
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm having problems installing products from a Macintosh. I downloaded
 them
 onto my hard drive and uncompressed the .tgz files with Stuffit Expander.
 I
 then FTPed them with Fetch to my server, then restarted Zope. The products
 were listed in the Product Management folder, but they had broken icons
 and
 were not showing up in the "Add" list. I did not have this problem when
 doing the exact same thing on a PC. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks.
 
 
 Tom Scheidt | www.falsemirror.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Zope] RE: [ Zope] ZCatalog dynamic sites

2000-07-21 Thread Corey Zimmet


Write a brains class that you would call to catalog and uncatalog
insert/update/delete ZSQLmethods:

For example:

class MyObject:
"""
Some arbitrary object - MyObjectID - the id of your object
MyCatalog -  the catalog you want to use to
index the sql
MyText1 -metadata column in your catalog
MyText2 -an additional metadata column in
your catalog
"""

def FullText(self):
"an index in your catalog"
return "%s %s" % (self.MyText1, self.MyText2)

def catalogObject(self):
"Catalog me"
self.MyCatalog.catalog_object(self, self.MyObjectID)

def uncatalogObject(self):
"Uncatalog me"
self.MyCatalog.uncatalog_object(self.MyObjectID)




Hope this helps,
Corey




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Re: [Zope] Zope and Mac

2000-07-21 Thread Phil Harris

Peter,

If you mean that IE renames the file to xxx.ar instaed of xxx.tar.gz then
all you have to do is rename it after you have downloaded and all will be
well.

hth

Phil

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Bengtsson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Tom Scheidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Zope and Mac


 Have had similar problems, but not on Mac, but on Windows98.
 My problem has been that IE saves files from zope.org with a different
 extension than that show on the Products page. This has caused archives to
 be incomplete, hence broken products.

 If you download a xxx.tar.gz, make sure it's called so on your Mac desktop
 as well.
 Maybe a Windows problem?
 - Original Message -
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 2:59 PM
 Subject: [Zope] Zope and Mac


  Hi,
 
  I'm having problems installing products from a Macintosh. I downloaded
 them
  onto my hard drive and uncompressed the .tgz files with Stuffit
Expander.
 I
  then FTPed them with Fetch to my server, then restarted Zope. The
products
  were listed in the Product Management folder, but they had broken icons
 and
  were not showing up in the "Add" list. I did not have this problem when
  doing the exact same thing on a PC. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks.
 
 
  Tom Scheidt | www.falsemirror.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ---
 
 
 
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RE: [Zope] ZBabel performance??

2000-07-21 Thread Albert Langer

Wow!

From 1) to 2) - both you and Zope DELIVER

1) "I can look at adding caching into ZBabel, but, it's not high on my
priority
list at the moment... I'm currently pounding the bricks. I'll try to make
time over the weekend to have a look (I may be able to use the Zope
Machinery to do the caching)."

Sent: Fri 7/21/00 10:31 AM

2) I've added caching of phrase lookups using the ZSQL Methods caching
facilties, it should cache up to 1,000 different phrases for 60 seconds.

There is a 0.0.2 release on zope.org now.

http://www.zope.org/Members/TheJester/ZBabel/

Sent: Fri 7/21/00 1:56 PM

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+[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-

Snip...

| translated.  However my concern that if the page is accessed by thousands
| of people, does Zope cache the translated text and serve it? does ZBabel

I've added caching of phrase lookups using the ZSQL Methods caching
facilties, it should cache up to 1,000 different phrases for 60 seconds.

There is a 0.0.2 release on zope.org now.

http://www.zope.org/Members/TheJester/ZBabel/

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[Zope] more catalog issues

2000-07-21 Thread ed colmar

Strange...

Now my 2.2 catalog is giving me the problems were supposed to be bugs in
zope (catalog) 2.1.5 and lower...  Inconsistancy, and missing indexes...???

When I update the catalog it corrects itself.  h

Any clues as to why my objects get cataloged incorrectly to start with?

Is there a better syntax to use than 'catalog_object()'?

Thanks for any pointers!

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[Zope] LoginManager ... USER SOURCE

2000-07-21 Thread Wolfgang Klinger

Hi!

LoginManager needs a User Source ... what can
I use as User Source?

I need detailed instructions   ;-)

Wolfgang

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[Zope] request for advice

2000-07-21 Thread Seb Bacon

Hello folks,

I'm just beginning to design my first big Zope application.  I'm writing to
ask zopististitiatatas for some advice, since I'm a bit of a newbie and I
want to make sure:

[a] I reuse as much code as possible 
[b] I make my code as reusable as possible
[c] my application is stable and scalable

1. Background to the application

I'm building an extranet product in Zope.  Much of it will be centered
around a 'VersioningObject'.

An example of such an object might be an image, a Word document.  The
objects will have a preview view associated with them.  For word docs, this
will be a html-ised version, for photos it will be a thumbnail.  Perhaps in
the future each object will also have rudimentary online editing facilities.

The objects will all support versioning.  This means each object can be
superceded by another object of the same type.  The version number will be
incremented.  Versions will also have Confera forums associated with them,
and ACLs.

Now as I see it, I want a VersioningObject to be a Folderish object that can
contain a set of Versions, which are just a load of File objects of the same
type.  The folder has a method which slects its most recent child file
object and displays it by calling its preview method.  Older versions are
read-only and are listed by title only.

2) My questions:

i) I'm worried about the sheer volume of binary data that would accrue in
the VersioningObject: a single VersioningObject might be a Word doc of 25Mb.
If it has 10 versions and there are 10 such objects, that's 2.5Gb in the
ZOBD.  I presume this would be a bad idea performance-wise; any suggestions?
ii) I'm interested in using ZPatterns because I reckon they sound like they
might enhance the reusability etc. of the code; I know there have been some
pointers recently, but which ZPatterns could I benefit from?  or are they
too arcance to worry about for now?
iii) Is there any other miscellaneous advice?  e.g. has anything like this
been done already?


Thanking you all, ladies and gentlemen.

Seb.

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[Zope] Wiki apps other than ZWiki 0.6.1

2000-07-21 Thread Geoff Gardiner

I've been happily adding ManagedMode functionality to ZWiki 0.6.1 but wonder
what other Wiki-on/in-Zope technologies there are that I should consider
working with. I'm looking for cataloging, graphics upload, differencing,
rename and delete and don't really want to have to work on them myself if
these have been done or are soon to be done.

Searching on 'Wiki' appears to be useless, since the word crops up in so
many contexts, hence my appeal for information.

Thank you,
Geoff Gardiner


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Re: [Zope] Re: Folderish objects and that BASE tag...

2000-07-21 Thread R. David Murray

On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Chris Withers wrote:
 If you go to:
 http://my.zope/site/file.html/
 
 It will just return the DTML document :-)
 
 I wonder if it is redirecting to http://my.zope/site/file.html?

I belive that it is returning:

http://my.zope/site/file.html/index_html

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Re: [Zope] request for advice

2000-07-21 Thread Patrick Lewis

On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 04:29:01PM +0100, Seb Bacon wrote:
 Hello folks,
 
 I'm just beginning to design my first big Zope application.  I'm writing to
 ask zopististitiatatas for some advice, since I'm a bit of a newbie and I
 want to make sure:
 
 [a] I reuse as much code as possible 
 [b] I make my code as reusable as possible
 [c] my application is stable and scalable
 
 1. Background to the application
 
 I'm building an extranet product in Zope.  Much of it will be centered
 around a 'VersioningObject'.
 
 An example of such an object might be an image, a Word document.  The
 objects will have a preview view associated with them.  For word docs, this
 will be a html-ised version, for photos it will be a thumbnail.  Perhaps in
 the future each object will also have rudimentary online editing facilities.
 
 The objects will all support versioning.  This means each object can be
 superceded by another object of the same type.  The version number will be
 incremented.  Versions will also have Confera forums associated with them,
 and ACLs.
 
 Now as I see it, I want a VersioningObject to be a Folderish object that can
 contain a set of Versions, which are just a load of File objects of the same
 type.  The folder has a method which slects its most recent child file
 object and displays it by calling its preview method.  Older versions are
 read-only and are listed by title only.
 
 2) My questions:
 
 i) I'm worried about the sheer volume of binary data that would accrue in
 the VersioningObject: a single VersioningObject might be a Word doc of 25Mb.
 If it has 10 versions and there are 10 such objects, that's 2.5Gb in the
 ZOBD.  I presume this would be a bad idea performance-wise; any suggestions?
 ii) I'm interested in using ZPatterns because I reckon they sound like they
 might enhance the reusability etc. of the code; I know there have been some
 pointers recently, but which ZPatterns could I benefit from?  or are they
 too arcance to worry about for now?
 iii) Is there any other miscellaneous advice?  e.g. has anything like this
 been done already?
 
 
 Thanking you all, ladies and gentlemen.
 
 Seb.

A couple of ideas: 

- Don't save your data (documents, images) in the ZODB. Instead, save it
to disk using the Local File System product.  This will prevent the ZODB
from getting too big for most OSes.

- I think it would be kind of interesting to use RCS for something like
this on the backend. Build your methods in Zope to manipulate RCS, and
then you get all the functionality of RCS "for free", and don't have to
reinvent the wheel. You may run into problems with people not working with
the most current document (I grab something from the database, Jill
commits some changes to the same document, I make some changes, commit
them, and destroy Jill's changes), but you would have that problem anyway
as you initially described it.

Hope this helps.

-- 
Patrick Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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[Zope] Monitor

2000-07-21 Thread darryl

Isn't anyone using the medusa/monitor_client.py script to debug their
zopes? I can start it up fine and view the sequence of objects I have
created, but my question is how do I access the return value of a DTML
method? The Zope Debugging how-to is a little scant on the subject.

-D


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RE: [Zope] request for advice

2000-07-21 Thread Chris McDonough

Steve Spicklmire has also written the ZCVSMixin product (which I've
never actually used) that might let you integration filesystem
versioning with Zope more easily as well...

 -Original Message-
 From: Patrick Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 12:50 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Re: [Zope] request for advice
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 21, 2000 at 04:29:01PM +0100, Seb Bacon wrote:
  Hello folks,
  
  I'm just beginning to design my first big Zope application. 
  I'm writing to
  ask zopististitiatatas for some advice, since I'm a bit of 
 a newbie and I
  want to make sure:
  
  [a] I reuse as much code as possible 
  [b] I make my code as reusable as possible
  [c] my application is stable and scalable
  
  1. Background to the application
  
  I'm building an extranet product in Zope.  Much of it will 
 be centered
  around a 'VersioningObject'.
  
  An example of such an object might be an image, a Word 
 document.  The
  objects will have a preview view associated with them.  For 
 word docs, this
  will be a html-ised version, for photos it will be a 
 thumbnail.  Perhaps in
  the future each object will also have rudimentary online 
 editing facilities.
  
  The objects will all support versioning.  This means each 
 object can be
  superceded by another object of the same type.  The version 
 number will be
  incremented.  Versions will also have Confera forums 
 associated with them,
  and ACLs.
  
  Now as I see it, I want a VersioningObject to be a 
 Folderish object that can
  contain a set of Versions, which are just a load of File 
 objects of the same
  type.  The folder has a method which slects its most recent 
 child file
  object and displays it by calling its preview method.  
 Older versions are
  read-only and are listed by title only.
  
  2) My questions:
  
  i) I'm worried about the sheer volume of binary data that 
 would accrue in
  the VersioningObject: a single VersioningObject might be a 
 Word doc of 25Mb.
  If it has 10 versions and there are 10 such objects, that's 
 2.5Gb in the
  ZOBD.  I presume this would be a bad idea performance-wise; 
 any suggestions?
  ii) I'm interested in using ZPatterns because I reckon they 
 sound like they
  might enhance the reusability etc. of the code; I know 
 there have been some
  pointers recently, but which ZPatterns could I benefit 
 from?  or are they
  too arcance to worry about for now?
  iii) Is there any other miscellaneous advice?  e.g. has 
 anything like this
  been done already?
  
  
  Thanking you all, ladies and gentlemen.
  
  Seb.
 
 A couple of ideas: 
 
 - Don't save your data (documents, images) in the ZODB. 
 Instead, save it
 to disk using the Local File System product.  This will 
 prevent the ZODB
 from getting too big for most OSes.
 
 - I think it would be kind of interesting to use RCS for 
 something like
 this on the backend. Build your methods in Zope to manipulate RCS, and
 then you get all the functionality of RCS "for free", and 
 don't have to
 reinvent the wheel. You may run into problems with people not 
 working with
 the most current document (I grab something from the database, Jill
 commits some changes to the same document, I make some changes, commit
 them, and destroy Jill's changes), but you would have that 
 problem anyway
 as you initially described it.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 -- 
 Patrick Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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Re: [Zope] ZServer Statistics

2000-07-21 Thread Robert Wohlfahrt

Hi,

 Is there way to determine how many (and which)pages
 ZServer serves? I am running ZServer as my primary

Have a look into

/path_to_your_zope/var/Z2.log 

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RE: [Zope] ZBabel performance??

2000-07-21 Thread Albert Langer

For non-cacheable pages that can't be speeded up by a reverse proxy, there
might be two other possibilities worth looking at as well.

If Zbabel is mainly needed for the production/maintenance of translations
rather than for really dynamic pages it might be possible to use ZMirror for
semi-static per language templates generated by ZBabel that get combined
dynamically with the dynamic non-translated bits.

For really dynamic translations, if the database hits are still too much for
some users, despite being read only and therefore usually in buffers, it
might be possible to copy the maintenance ZBabel database stored in a
persistent SQL database from the management screens into a RAM Gadfly
database used by the actual page generation.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Andrew Kenneth Milton
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 10:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope] ZBabel performance??


+[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-
| Hi,
|
| I was able to install and test the ZBabel product.
| Very nice product indeed!!  I have a question about performance..

Thanks :-)

[...snip...]

|  However my concern that if the page is accessed by thousands
| of people, does Zope cache the translated text and serve it? does ZBabel
| do that? or is there a way to do that?

If you are passing query_string parameters into your page you will
not be able to cache the pages anyway.

If a page is cacheable then you can setup a HTTP accellerator in front of
Zope that will cache the rendered pages. I don't know what your current
network topology is like, so it's a little hard to comment.

I can look at adding caching into ZBabel, but, it's not high on my priority
list at the moment... I'm currently pounding the bricks. I'll try to make
time over the weekend to have a look (I may be able to use the Zope
Machinery to do the caching).

| I do not want to hit the database
| everytime someone requests that page.. Our site is usually translated to 5
| languages and we had developed a Perl script that would read php tags and
| create static pages becuase of that problem, and in this case we do not
| know at all what happend in eth backend..

Out of interest how many hits per hour are you doing?

I worked on a largish portal system (ASP *puke*) and they had no problem
going to the DB very very frequently. The key for the phrase is 32 bytes,
it should be very quick to look up, even in a poorly tuned MySQL.

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[Zope] review product proposal

2000-07-21 Thread kamon ayeva

Hi,

"J. Atwood" (I was unable to get his email from the mailing list search 
 interface) wrote some days ago:

On my list of products that I would like to build / help build

ZCLassifieds:

A product that allows users to post classifieds for sale with categories,
pictures, start and end dates, email contacts, etc. Could be anonymous or
require a log in that plays upon the strengths of Zope.

ZReview:

A generic review product that allows people to post reviews of "things" and
have other people comment on the review. A lot of what is in Zope Treasures
but maybe with pictures etc.

Has anyone starting building these, need these, or would be interested in
helping build these?


[K.A.] I just need this for a site I am working on, based on ZDP-Tools. 
Document rating is one of the thing lacking.
ZDP-Tools is ZClass-based, so if you like ZClasses, you might be interested 
to collaborate on it and leverage this solution for your applications. 
Actually, there is a ZDP-Tools development effort at Sourceforge (since this 
week) and you might be interested to join our discussions. Maik Roeder or I 
is going to do a formal announcement later.

Regards,
Kamon





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Re: [Zope] Monitor

2000-07-21 Thread Shane Hathaway

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Isn't anyone using the medusa/monitor_client.py script to debug their
 zopes? I can start it up fine and view the sequence of objects I have
 created, but my question is how do I access the return value of a DTML
 method? The Zope Debugging how-to is a little scant on the subject.

python monitor_client.py localhost 8099
(enter password)
import Zope
app = Zope.app()
m = app.folder1.subfolder.myMethod
m()

and don't forget..

get_transaction().commit()

Shane

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Re: [Zope] Re: [Zope-dev] Datebug?

2000-07-21 Thread Bill Anderson

Peter Arvidsson wrote:
 
 
 
  try this:
 
  input type="text" value="dtml-var "date+0.5"  fmt=%Y-%m-%d"
 
  I think it's a round problem with the float representation of the date.
 
  martin
 
 Since it is adding 24 hours 

Are you _sure_ it is adding 24 hours? The string you gave only shows
date, not time. Try showing the time as well, and see what happens. I
had a similiar problem once, thought this might be of some use.


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Re: [Zope] all DTML Methods of current folder and subfolder

2000-07-21 Thread Dieter Maurer

Wolfgang Klinger writes:
  I have a dtml method in a folder which should
  display all "document_title"s of all 
  "DTML Method"s in the current folder and
  all sub folders!
  
  I tried 
  dtml-in "Info.objectValues(['DTML Method'])"
  where "Info" is the current folder where the
  method itself is stored
  but that didn't work ... :-(
dtml-in "ZopeFind(this(),obj_metatypes=['DTML Method'], search_sub=1)" sort=id
  dtml-id;br
/dtml-in

You cannot use "document_id" or "document_title" because they
are only defined dynamically (during rendering).


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] ZCatalog dynamic sites

2000-07-21 Thread Dieter Maurer

  I have a Zope site that uses MySQL to dynamically create some pages.
  What I want is the ability to search throughout the site, INCLUDING
  the pages that are database-driven. It seems to me that ZCatalog only=20
  finds items that exist *in zope*.
  
  Is it something ZCatalog can't do or am I missing anything obvious ?
ZCatalog catalogues objects.

Objects must help ZCatalog by providing attributes and/or
parameterless methods. When the object is indexed, ZCatalog
accesses the attributes/methods to obtain the terms the
object should be indexed for.
And the objects must be URL addressable,
because they are itentified inside the catalog by their URL.

ZCatalog can index any object that satisfies these
requirements.

You probably must work that your dynamic objects with database
contents do that.


Dieter

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[Zope] dumb dtml-in question

2000-07-21 Thread Tom Scheidt


I'd like to use the dtml-in tag to get the number of files in a specific
folder.

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Re: [Zope] dumb dtml-in question

2000-07-21 Thread Andy McKay

dtml-in "objectValues()"
dtml-var sequence-length
/dtml-in

This prints out the value every time though so you might do a return or do a
request set depending upon what you are doing, or use a first / last
system...

dtml-in "objectValues()"
dtml-if sequence-end
dtml-var sequence-length
/dtml-if
/dtml-in

Prints only once
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Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 2:58 PM
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 I'd like to use the dtml-in tag to get the number of files in a specific
 folder.

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[Zope] An observation about manage_* methods

2000-07-21 Thread albert boulanger



This has a question to it if I am not overlooking something. I often
want to design dtml_methods that allow the end user to manage content
under his control. An example of a typical manage method that you
often see is like:


From TinyTable.py:

def manage_editData(self, data, REQUEST=None):
"""Change item data"""
self._rows = map(self._FixRow, ImportExport.ImportData(data))
self._n_rows = len(self._rows)

self._GenerateIndex()

return self.manage_editedDialog(REQUEST)


Now there is an assumption in this code that the editing context that
this is being called from is some manage_ method, hence returns like
"return self.manage_editedDialog(REQUEST)". This is annoying if you are
writing a user-managed content method that does not wants the user to
see the manage interface because eventually it goes to one with such
returns. Instead, I would like to have control on where he/she returns
(often to the method I wrote or to  index_html). I could do a
dtml-call "RESPONSE.redirect..., but the return
self.manage_editedDialog(REQUEST) gets in the way. Am I overlooking
something or is this a weakness in this design pattern for management?
I could wind up making my own version of manage_editData that does not
do the return self.manage_editedDialog(REQUEST). (I know some code at
least conditionalizes this to the presence of REQUEST.)

Thoughts? Ideas?

Regards,
Albert Boulanger
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Re: [Zope] How to require an @ symbol in email form field??

2000-07-21 Thread R. David Murray

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Duncan Booth wrote:
 Use javascript to check that all required fields are present before 
 the form is actually submitted. Here is some of the code I use:

Note, however, that using Javascript to do the checking client side
is only useful as a user convenience.  If you have data validation
issues you *must* repeat the validation server side, in case some
clever cracker^h^h^h^h^h^h^huser bypasses your form and submits
data without going through the javascript.

--RDM


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Re: [Zope] A Better Way (Stupid DTML code)

2000-07-21 Thread Andy McKay

Other smug answers include:
- dont put - in your SQL methods
- use your SQL to give the variable a different name
- use python

- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Harris" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Dennis Baker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] A Better Way (Stupid DTML code)


 dtml-in SQL_list_providers
   dtml-if "_.int(_['min-provid'])  2"
 dtml-if sequence-start
   h3Search for Member Information/H3
   dtml-var MemberSearchForm
 /dtml-if
   /dtml-if
 /dtml-in
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dennis Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 12:08 AM
 Subject: [Zope] A Better Way (Stupid DTML code)
 
 
  Ok,  there has to be a better way of doing this,  I just want to show a
  dialog if there minimum value of a field is lower than 20,000.  This is
  the only way I could figure out to do this,  Python seems to choke on
  variables with Hyphens so I have to use the dtml-let  It works but
  it's a STUPID way to do things.
  
  
  dtml-in SQL_list_providers
dtml-let min_provid=min-provid
  dtml-if "min_provid  '2'"
dtml-if sequence-start
  h3Search for Member Information/H3
  !-- ** Show the Member Search Form **  --
  dtml-var MemberSearchForm
/dtml-if
  /dtml-if
/dtml-let
  /dtml-in
  
  
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Re: [Zope] dumb dtml-in question

2000-07-21 Thread Jonothan Farr

How about just:

dtml-var "_.len(folder.objectIds())"

--jfarr

"Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse."
Larry Wall, 14 Oct 1998

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From: Andy McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] dumb dtml-in question


 dtml-in "objectValues()"
 dtml-var sequence-length
 /dtml-in
 
 This prints out the value every time though so you might do a return or do a
 request set depending upon what you are doing, or use a first / last
 system...
 
 dtml-in "objectValues()"
 dtml-if sequence-end
 dtml-var sequence-length
 /dtml-if
 /dtml-in
 
 Prints only once
 - Original Message -
 From: "Tom Scheidt" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 2:58 PM
 Subject: [Zope] dumb dtml-in question
 
 
 
  I'd like to use the dtml-in tag to get the number of files in a specific
  folder.
 
  Tom Scheidt | www.falsemirror.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Zope] packing on ZSPs (was Re: [Zope] zope.org down)

2000-07-21 Thread Simon Michael

ethan mindlace fremen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Well, folks, zope.org is down again, because the site was packed without
 enough space on the device.
...
 To keep this from happening again, we will be adding an additional 40gb
 drive that should do us just fine until the Data.fs hits 2 GB.

This is a general problem for zope service providers and their users;
I wonder how we can resolve it ?

Related, though specific to Codeit users: I need to pack to avoid the
above, but fear the data-corrupting packing bugs which were fixed in
more recent versions of zope. Codeit, perhaps time for an upgrade ? At
least to 2.1.6 ?

Best regards
-Simon

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[Zope] Re: Zope pcgi

2000-07-21 Thread Bill Anderson

Michael Arndt wrote:
 
 Hi Bill
 
 this seems to address our Problem:
 Response:
  Some platforms may require setting:
 
  PCGI_CLOSE_FDS=0
 
  in the pcgi resource file, since configure cannot
  reliably discover this at compile time.
 
 (Patches Bugreprorts ...)

WORKS!!


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Re: [Zope] URL quoting in python

2000-07-21 Thread Kapil Thangavelu

Thanks for the tip Duncan,

I find it strange that this utility function is not in the _ namepace...
time to make a trip to the Tracker. It seems like a url-encoding
function should be directly accessible from zope.

Thanks

Kapil

Duncan Booth wrote:
 
  I often create an external method for this...
 
  em:
 
  def url_quote(s):
 import urllib
 return urllib.quote_plus(s, safe='')
 
  Silly, but it works.
 
  I think the alternative is to hack the DT_Util.py module in the
  DocumentTemplate directory to expose urllib or a derived function.
 
 Isn't an external method a bit overkill? It is possible to just create a
 DTML Method called url_quote where the body is:
 dtml-var s url_quote
 
 (making sure there is no whitespace before this line, and no
 newline after it.)
 
 Then from any other DTML method you just call it remembering to
 pass in the parameter by name.
 
 e.g.
  dtml-call
 "RESPONSE.redirect(URL1+'?foo_bar='+url_quote(s=ufoobar))"
 
 --
 Duncan Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 int month(char *p){return(124864/((p[0]+p[1]-p[2]0x1f)+1)%12)["\5\x8\3"
 "\6\7\xb\1\x9\xa\2\0\4"];} // Who said my code was obscure?
 http://dales.rmplc.co.uk/Duncan
 
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Re: [Zope] packing on ZSPs (was Re: [Zope] zope.org down)

2000-07-21 Thread Loren Stafford


- Original Message -
From: "Simon Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Related, though specific to Codeit users: I need to pack to avoid the
 above, but fear the data-corrupting packing bugs which were fixed in
 more recent versions of zope. Codeit, perhaps time for an upgrade ? At
 least to 2.1.6 ?


My experience is that CodeIt, in order not to surprise you with unexpected
upgrades, will upgrade your Zope server when you ask.

-- Loren




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Re: [Zope] Working with Lists

2000-07-21 Thread Dieter Maurer

Terry Babbey writes:
  Here is my code and my error.
  
  dtml-in "_.getitem(ProgCode,0).CL"
  dtml-let item=sequence-item
dtml-var "item[0]"
  /dtml-let
  BR
  /dtml-in
  
  Zope has encountered an error while publishing this resource.
  
 Error Type: IndexError
 Error Value: string index out of range
  
  CL is a property of a dtml document and is a list of courses for a
  given program. My goal is to test character 8 of each line and if it
  is a - (dash) then it represents a course name which I will usr to
  point to a course description.
  Any help?
One of the list elements is empty, there is no index "0".

Try:
dtml-if "item[7:8] == '-'"
   contains '-' as 8.th character 
/dtml-if

"item[7:8]" gives the 8.th character, if it exists, and otherwise
the empty string.



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Re: [Zope] NESTED IN STATEMENTS AND PASSING VARIABLES in DTML

2000-07-21 Thread Dieter Maurer

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  This is FAQ material and should be inserted into either the DTML programmer's guide
  or the ZSQL Methods guide.  It bites everyone who uses SQL methods eventually.
  
  ZSQL methods do not perform acquisition, but will look at REQUEST, change it
  to.
A minor clarification of terms:

 * *acquisition* acquires attributes/methods form containing objects
   or the context of the objects use

 * DTML methods usually are passed a *namespace* containing
   name-value bindings.
   This namespace contains many variables, REQUEST and its content,
   acquired attributes/methods, variables made
   available with dtml-with, dtml-let, dtml-in, dtml-tree...


Z SQL methods do support acquisition.

They are, however, not called (automatically) with the current namespace
but only with the REQUEST object.
Thus, they can automatically use only acquired attributes/methods
and variables contained in REQUEST but not the variables defined
in an enclosing DTML method (via with, let, in, tree ).

Acquired attributes do not need tp be listed in the "Arguements"
property of the Z SQL method, REQUEST variables have to.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope] GUF Authentication Problems

2000-07-21 Thread Andy McKay

Nope that was a lie. I still have the same problem. Damn.

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To: "Mario Premke" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] GUF Authentication Problems


 Thanks to you, and thanks to Brad.

 That works... now there are a whole bunch of other security issues of
course
 :)

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 To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 3:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [Zope] GUF Authentication Problems


  Yes - thanks to Brad.
  Give the proxy role (Authorizer) the permission
  "Access contents informations" in the folder you
  want to protect (i.e. the folder above GUF).
  Cheers
  Mario
 
  
   Did anyone find a solution to this problem?
  
   I have the exact same problem when try to access that object:
  
   2000-07-19T22:09:27 ERROR(200) GUF
   http://127.0.0.1:8080/acl_users/userAuthenticate raised an exception
   (('Unauthorized', 0, traceback object at 18bf888))
  
   Thanks
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Mario Premke" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Dieter Maurer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 9:25 AM
   Subject: Re: [Zope] GUF Authentication Problems
  
  
Yes, I made the proxy roles ...
Before that Zope said:
 you are not authorized to access emUserAuthentication/em
   
But meaanwhile I turned to Zope-2.2.0 and I recognized "Login
Manager"
in the Available Objects. Is that the Login MAnager which was
formerly
   distributed
as a Product and hence makes GUF obsolete ??
Thanks
MArio
   

 Mario Premke writes:
   Maybe, your password is encrypted?
   NO, it isn't.
  
   The problem is, that I cannot access "real_password", because
 Zope
   says:
  
   2000-07-12T15:54:46 ERROR(200) GUF
  
 http://134.96.119.88:8080/portal_folder/acl_users/userAuthenticate
   raised an exception (('Unauthorized', 'You are not authorized
to
   access
   emreal_password/em.', traceback object at 857e2d0))
 I know.

 Because I read the Zope digests, I am always about 1 day behind.
 I, therefore, may respond to questions already answered by
 the poster or others.

 You tried a proxy role as suggested by someone else?



 Dieter

   
   
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