Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-25 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
Hugo Ramos wrote: Well... They were already using Zope's cache and Squid to proxy some static HTML I guess the problem is Plone itself... Skins etc... eh, sorry for probably stating the obvious. you menationed in an earlier mail that you have good hardware. If this hardware is multi-cpu then

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread bruno desthuilliers
Hugo Ramos wrote: Hi all, I'm responsible for a big corporate intranet and corporate portal. They were using Zope/Plone before I got here and the problems are too many. Let's talk about performance issues... Plone is VERY SLOW responding requests. All content is stored in ZODB objects and

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Withers
bruno desthuilliers wrote: I think the problem has more to do with Plone than with Zope or the ZODB. We have a couple 'barebones' zope applications here that serve public website. Hosting is on a shared server (behind apache) with no zeo, no cache, no tuning, no fancy configuration, and

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/24/06, Hugo Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's talk about performance issues... Plone is VERY SLOW responding requests. All content is stored in ZODB objects and zcatalog is used to search. But even if you request the intranet home only, it takes about 10 seconds to load. The hardware

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Peter Bengtsson
On 1/24/06, Hugo Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm responsible for a big corporate intranet and corporate portal. They were using Zope/Plone before I got here and the problems are too many. Let's talk about performance issues... Plone is VERY SLOW responding requests. All content

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Andrew Sawyers
standard products that probably will not help you. I'm not a speed guru, but load balancing with ZEO would probably be the easiest way of improving the performance in this case. That's my guess. If he's got a dual cpu'd machine and is running two zeo instances, he's fine unless he's got a

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 1/24/06, Andrew Sawyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If he's got a dual cpu'd machine and is running two zeo instances, he's fine unless he's got a ram problem. To be running 2 zeo instances on the same machine, they have to be doing some type of load balancing or faking load balancing so that

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Sasha Vincic
On 1/24/06, Peter Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/06, Hugo Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm responsible for a big corporate intranet and corporate portal. They were using Zope/Plone before I got here and the problems are too many. Let's talk about performance

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Dieter Maurer
Hugo Ramos wrote at 2006-1-24 11:08 -0300: ... Let's talk about performance issues... Plone is VERY SLOW responding requests. All content is stored in ZODB objects and zcatalog is used to search. But even if you request the intranet home only, it takes about 10 seconds to load. The hardware is

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Sasha Vincic
On 1/24/06, Hugo Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well... They were already using Zope's cache and Squid to proxy some static HTML I guess the problem is Plone itself... Skins etc... As I said and Limi, check out CacheFu. With it you can cache most of your site not just some static HTML and you

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Michael Vartanyan
How did you go about caching authenticated content? Any simple personalization element like the user name in the corner disqualifies the whole page from effective participation in downstream proxying/caching. The only thing you can do with such page is to cache it for one particular user

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Paul Winkler
I'm no expert in this realm, but: Find Chris M's presentation on scaling zope, somewhere on plope.com. It doesn't go into great detail on this topic, but basically, IIRC the strategy is to push personalization (and final page composition) downstream. This generally means either: - Squid and ESI

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Sasha Vincic
On 1/24/06, Michael Vartanyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did you go about caching authenticated content? Any simple personalization element like the user name in the corner disqualifies the whole page from effective participation in downstream proxying/caching. The only thing you can do

Re: [Zope] Zope vs Plone: performance issues!

2006-01-24 Thread Hugo Ramos
Well... They were already using Zope's cache and Squid to proxy some static HTML I guess the problem is Plone itself... Skins etc... On 1/24/06, Sasha Vincic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/06, Peter Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/06, Hugo Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi