[Zope-dev] Session

2001-01-16 Thread Anderson Ami
How can I use this line ? Do I need any product ? Anderson ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/list

Re: [Zope-dev] Session

2001-01-16 Thread Steve Alexander
Hi Anderson, Anderson Ami wrote: > How can I use this line ? Do I need any product ? > > I don't understand your question. Perhaps you need to explain your situation in more detail. In any case, this looks like a question about using Zope rather than about the development of zope itsel

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Michael Bernstein wrote: > Jimmie Houchin wrote: > > > > I would like to echo Michael's sentiment and comments. I am at the > > beginning stage of Zope development of a website which will have > > millions of objects of a single object type and multiple of such. > > are your objects intended to b

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Casey Duncan
I don't know if this was mentioned earlier, but you might want to check out the OracleStorage product which allows you to use Oracle as storage for the ZODB. http://www.zope.org/Products/OracleStorage This solution would likely scale to your needs. Also there are several object databases like M

[Zope-dev] Specialists and __bobo_traverse__

2001-01-16 Thread Roch'e Compaan
I'm still lost as to when __bobo_traverse__ is checked for object traversal and when not. I have very simple piece of SkinScript: WITH SELF COMPUTE __bobo_traverse__ = traversal_method. Looking at the traverse method in BaseRequest.py it looks to me as if an object is always checked if it has a

Re: [Zope-dev] Specialists and __bobo_traverse__

2001-01-16 Thread Phillip J. Eby
It sounds to me like you're trying to have SkinScript supply a bobo_traverse for the Specialist itself, and this you cannot do. (There are other ways to change a Specialist's bobo_traverse behavior, but SkinScript is not one of them.) The SkinScript you're doing is meaningful only if you want to

[Zope-dev] manage_changeProperties in a loop

2001-01-16 Thread Arno Gross
Suppose I have a list of existing folder objects and depending on their index in the list I want to set a property called 'rang'. I assumed you could something like this: (normally the list comes from outside) Any ideas or hints? Thanks Arno Gross,

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Andy McKay
> While that would work for the simple object case, I find the > prospect of storing a bunch of BLOBs (for the image data of > the Photos) in an RDBMS to be *most* un-appetizing. Storing > them on the server's file-system seems in-elegant as well. Okey dokey, just a suggestion. I have heard peopl

Re: [Zope-dev] manage_changeProperties in a loop

2001-01-16 Thread Steve Alexander
Arno Gross wrote: > Suppose I have a list of existing folder objects and depending > on their index in the list I want to set a property called 'rang'. > > I assumed you could something like this: > > > > (normally the list comes from outside) > > > Here, you're getting an item w

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Zope mailing lists
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Michael Bernstein wrote: > as Squishdot). Adding a dependency on an RDBMS or requiring > additional setup on the server's FS seems a step in the > wrong direction. [...] > So the question remains: Will either approach (within the > ZODB) allow me to scale the application to hu

Re: [Zope-dev] Specialists and __bobo_traverse__

2001-01-16 Thread Roch'e Compaan
> It sounds to me like you're trying to have SkinScript supply a > bobo_traverse for the Specialist itself, and this you cannot do. (There > are other ways to change a Specialist's bobo_traverse behavior, but > SkinScript is not one of them.) The SkinScript you're doing is meaningful > only if y

[Zope-dev] ZCatalog with ZClass

2001-01-16 Thread Lily Li
Hello, everyone, It seems that many of you have used ZCatalog pretty well. My problem is that I'd like a ZClass (of a Product) to subclass CatalogAware, and implement all the index and search inside the Product. That means I don't want to do any DTML method stuff outside of the Product. Could

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread John Eikenberry
Michael Bernstein wrote: > So, again: Has anyone run up against any performance or > other limitations regarding large numbers (hundreds of > thousands or more) of objects stored within the ZODB either > in a BTree Folder or a Rack? I was looking into the same issues recently, but for a much sma

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Andy McKay
Does ZPatterns provide a nice interface / way for storing classes in a RDBMS? I have to say using an RDBMS is not as transparent as I would like, this may may improve it. Finally a reason for me to ZPatterns... -- Andy McKay. - Original Message - From: "John Eikenberry" <[EMAIL PROTEC

[Zope-dev] 2.3 beta

2001-01-16 Thread Andy McKay
On a more minor note would it be possible to get rid of the old style dtml syntax (

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Michael Bernstein
John Eikenberry wrote: > > Michael Bernstein wrote: > > > So, again: Has anyone run up against any performance or > > other limitations regarding large numbers (hundreds of > > thousands or more) of objects stored within the ZODB either > > in a BTree Folder or a Rack? > > I was looking into th

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Michael Bernstein
Andy McKay wrote: > > > While that would work for the simple object case, I find the > > prospect of storing a bunch of BLOBs (for the image data of > > the Photos) in an RDBMS to be *most* un-appetizing. Storing > > them on the server's file-system seems in-elegant as well. > > Okey dokey, just

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Michael Bernstein
RDM wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Michael Bernstein wrote: > > as Squishdot). Adding a dependency on an RDBMS or requiring > > additional setup on the server's FS seems a step in the > > wrong direction. > [...] > > So the question remains: Will either approach (within the > > ZODB) allow me to

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread John Eikenberry
Andy McKay wrote: > Does ZPatterns provide a nice interface / way for storing classes in a > RDBMS? I have to say using an RDBMS is not as transparent as I would like, > this may may improve it. Finally a reason for me to ZPatterns... The best way to get a taste is to try it out. The easiest wa

Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog with ZClass

2001-01-16 Thread Michael Bernstein
Lily Li wrote: > > Hello, everyone, > > It seems that many of you have used ZCatalog pretty well. > > My problem is that I'd like a ZClass (of a Product) to subclass > CatalogAware, and implement all the index and search inside the Product. > That means I don't want to do any DTML method stuff

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread John Eikenberry
Michael Bernstein wrote: > John Eikenberry wrote: > > > > I was looking into the same issues recently, but for a much smaller set of > > data (5ish). In my tests ZPatterns/binary-trees scaled well for storage > > and retrieval. But ZCatalog did not. It was basically useless for partial > > m

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Zope mailing lists
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Michael Bernstein wrote: > I do not know if BTree folders and Racks share the same > B-Tree implementation, which is why I qualified my statement > as 'slightly less confident'. I'm fairly certain that BTree folders, Squishdot, and Racks all use the BTree module that comes wi

Re: [Zope-dev] 2.3 beta

2001-01-16 Thread richard
... and what's the chance of getting my minor (but incredibly nice) change to the management menus in? I'd rather not have to ship a modified version of Zope... Richard ps. for those who missed the first post, I'm advocating that the ordering of the management menu tree be done by the Ob

Re: [Zope-dev] Massive scalability

2001-01-16 Thread Michael Bernstein
John Eikenberry wrote: > > > Long answer: If you check out the source and/or hit it with the profiler > you'll see that the way the partial search works is to first do a more > general search then to limit the hits as much as possible via regex's. > Both these steps have to happen no matter the

[Zope-dev] ANNOUNCE: Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 released

2001-01-16 Thread Brian Lloyd
Hello all, Zope 2.3.0 beta 1 is now available. You can download it from Zope.org: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.3.0b1/ This release contains the final new features for 2.3, including: - A browser preferences screen to allow people to tweak certain aspects of the new man