[Zope-dev] Re: zope.fssync in Zope 2.11
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: Thomas Lotze wrote: I just realized that Zope 2.11.0-a1 contains zope.app.fssync but not zope.fssync. This doesn't make much sense to me given that the former depends on the latter. Is there a good reason for it, should both be included, or none of the two? Probably an oversight. zope.app.fssync was most definitely added by mistake (I assume it wasn't in Zope 2.10). Feel free to remove it. Please. Apparently it has already been removed from the trunk, so no action is needed AFAICS. -- Thomas ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Changing DateTime to use pytz
On 10/4/07, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would not care much about dropping the support for weird timezone names without further notice as long as their is an easy way for people migrating their code e.g. by specifying a proper tz name. Lets not break too much, and instead concentrate on replacing DateTime with datetime in the long run. If this goes into 2.11, we should also get DT2dt and dt2DT in there. Being on a Grok sprint right now I don't have time to do that this week. Can I be given a deadline? I like deadlines. :-) Or somebody else can do it. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Wed Oct 3 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Thu Oct 4 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Wed Oct 3 20:51:44 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008436.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Wed Oct 3 20:53:14 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008437.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Wed Oct 3 20:54:45 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008438.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Wed Oct 3 20:56:15 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008439.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Wed Oct 3 20:57:46 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-October/008440.html ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Splitting 'Signals' into an egg?
Not sure what Zope 3 is using these days (haven't checked), but Zope 2 had a 'Signals' package that handled signaling events on both Windows and *nix in a somewhat transparent way. Has anyone thought of packaging that as an egg? -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists
Any objections? This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] WSGI2
There's work going on to create a second version of WSGI. Last time, we didn't pay much attention until WSGI was a done deal. This time, I think it would be better if we were involved earlier. Unfortunately, I don't have time to pay attention. Does anyone else? Jim P.S. I'd lobe to avoid typos. Especially in subject lines. :/ -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists
Jim Fulton wrote: This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. +100 -- http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Changing DateTime to use pytz
Andreas Jung wrote: I would not care much about dropping the support for weird timezone names without further notice as long as their is an easy way for people migrating their code e.g. by specifying a proper tz name. I should clarify that they are mostly abbreviations. I also agree with Lennart Regebro, that the correct solution is to replace DateTime with datetime, and so it's not worth breaking too much. I wanted to see if people are interested in seeing this go into Zope. Please use a dedicated branch. Will do. Thanks! -Amos ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists
On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 09:57 -0400, Jim Fulton wrote: Any objections? This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. +1 Seems reasonable. The archives for the retired list will remain in place, right? - Michael R. Bernstein signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Changing DateTime to use pytz
Hi, I wanted to let folks know that I've created the amos-datetime-pytz branch with my changes. Please let me know when/if you'd like me to merge this to the trunk. Of course I'm also happy to receive any criticism or comments on the changes. Thanks! -Amos ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Changing DateTime to use pytz
--On 4. Oktober 2007 12:52:24 -0400 Amos Latteier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I wanted to let folks know that I've created the amos-datetime-pytz branch with my changes. Please let me know when/if you'd like me to merge this to the trunk. Any chance getting rid of the _zlst and _zmap data cruft? Andreas pgpCdhsZSKdEK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Changing DateTime to use pytz
On Oct 4, 2007, at 5:42 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: ... Being on a Grok sprint right now I don't have time to do that this week. Can I be given a deadline? I like deadlines. :-) Just to put this in perspective. People in the US will be affected again by the existing bug starting the last Sunday of this Month (Oct 28). Then, the time-zone -ffset will be off by an hour for a bout a week. It might be nice if we could get the fix in the hands of people before a new Zope release, although that may not be practical. I was thinking of releasing a separate DateTime distribution, but don't know if there would be an easy way to install it in such a way that it was ahead of the existing DateTime in the path. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Changing DateTime to use pytz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Amos Latteier wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: I would not care much about dropping the support for weird timezone names without further notice as long as their is an easy way for people migrating their code e.g. by specifying a proper tz name. I should clarify that they are mostly abbreviations. I also agree with Lennart Regebro, that the correct solution is to replace DateTime with datetime, and so it's not worth breaking too much. I think consensus here is that the DateTIme stuff has BBB contracts which are literally unbreakable: - millions of pickles are out there in ZODB land which will barf if DateTime doesn't preserve existing semantics. - Bunches of third-party application code uses the DateTime API, in particular the DWIMish constructor. I think your change (using pytz to handle timezones, with fallback to the older code) is a sensible compromise. Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palladion Software Excellence by Designhttp://palladion.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHBSXU+gerLs4ltQ4RAp0hAJ9YAKnuSkYGBMLG9zEK/qoLv6VMHwCfbXgJ XkIPQNsmCgRHRlmExFhMk9E= =ki/q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists
On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:57, Jim Fulton wrote: This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. -1. I do not follow zope-dev at all and the traffic is pretty high there. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists
--On 4. Oktober 2007 15:15:40 -0400 Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:57, Jim Fulton wrote: This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. -1. I do not follow zope-dev at all and the traffic is pretty high there. Not as high as on the zope3-dev list. +1 for phasing the zope3 term out. -aj pgpvT6cAdYVZI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Changing DateTime to use pytz
I've been working on this too today (well datetime handling anyway). Please see my patch at https://bugs.launchpad.net/zope2/+bug/149060 Laurence Amos Latteier wrote: Hi, I wanted to let folks know that I've created the amos-datetime-pytz branch with my changes. Please let me know when/if you'd like me to merge this to the trunk. Of course I'm also happy to receive any criticism or comments on the changes. Thanks! -Amos ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists
Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:57, Jim Fulton wrote: This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. -1. I do not follow zope-dev at all and the traffic is pretty high there. But pretty low there, if you take out the cross-posts. :) Martin -- Acquisition is a jealous mistress ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] I'd lobe to merge the zope3-dev and zope-dev lists
Stephan Richter wrote: On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:57, Jim Fulton wrote: This would basically involve retiring the zope3-dev list and moving zope3 developers to the zope-dev list. -1. I do not follow zope-dev at all and the traffic is pretty high there. If you do not follow it at all, how would you know that the traffic is pretty high there? It is, in fact, much lower than on zope3-dev. Here's an overview of the number of messages in both lists in the last 12 months (cross-posts are counted twice): zope-dev zope3-dev Oct 158238 Nov 119235 Dec65231 Jan 168300 Feb 127178 Mar 164300 Apr 118282 May89297 Jun 121126 Jul52274 Aug91303 Sep 101411 So zope3-dev has anything between 1.5 and 5 times the number of postings per month than zope-dev. If you're not interested in certain topics, then I suggest you simply ignore those emails. -- http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
