On 2009-9-10 23:24, Benji York wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Wichert Akkermanwich...@wiggy.net wrote:
On 2009-9-10 22:23, Benji York wrote:
2) if you accidentally make a trunk release no one will accedentally use
it
because it will be the oldest release on PyPI instead of the
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Date: Thu Sep 10 20:44:45 EDT 2009
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote:
Suppose you are working on an app which includes a package that depends on A
= 2.1 to make sure it can use a new API introduced in A 2.1. If you then
add a develop egg for A to do some work on it things break with this
Benji York wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Wichert Akkerman wich...@wiggy.net wrote:
Suppose you are working on an app which includes a package that depends on A
= 2.1 to make sure it can use a new API introduced in A 2.1. If you then
add a develop egg for A to do some work on it
Hi there,
Apparently some people are using '0' instead of the next version for
packages in the ZTK.
Please do not do this for ZTK packages. The official policy for
releasing is here.
http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/process/releasing-software.html
It is also all right to use a tool like
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Hanno Schlichting ha...@hannosch.eu wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alex Chapmanachap...@zope.com wrote:
Log message for revision 103721:
keep trunk version at 0. Update changes
I think
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote:
Hi there,
Apparently some people are using '0' instead of the next version for
packages in the ZTK.
Please do not do this for ZTK packages. The official policy for
releasing is here.
Martijn Faassen wrote:
Christian Theune wrote:
[snip]
Same here. We also ended up in many deadlock situations having to
sacrifice chickens for SVN to resume operations. That's why we started
investigating alternatives which are better at branching and merging.
Please keep up posted. We
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote:
So, could you please follow this policy for ZTK packages in SVN?
I suspect it would help if packages that are part of the ZTK have that
indicated somewhere convenient, like near where the version number is
specified
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
3) [no] superfluous version bumps on the trunk
I don't understand this one. Could you elaborate?
The current practice is that after doing a release you have to
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote:
Well, the official policy of the ZTK is still to use the 'dev' approach.
We can't just suddenly start to use something else just like that,
without discussion.
Absolutely. This is that discussion. :)
In addition,
Hey,
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com
wrote:
Hi there,
Apparently some people are using '0' instead of the next version for
packages in the ZTK.
Please do not do this for ZTK packages. The official policy for
releasing is here.
On Sep 11, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Benji York wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as
wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
3) [no] superfluous version bumps on the trunk
I don't understand this one. Could you elaborate?
The
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, since I'm also in the setup.py should be able to specify minimum
versions camp (admittedly unlike others, such as Benji, to my continued
surprise)
I've gotta keep you guessing somehow. ;)
The '0' pattern seems
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Martijn Faassen
faas...@startifact.com wrote:
Benji York wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com
wrote:
Well, the official policy of the ZTK is still to use the 'dev' approach.
We can't just suddenly start to use
Gary Poster wrote:
[snip]
...Mmm, what Marius describes works for me, I believe. I've
definitely used that trick and showed it to others, at least. Maybe
it worked by mistake? /me wonders if he was doing something wrong, or
if he remembersbut doesn't take the time to try it again
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Martijn Faassen
faas...@startifact.com wrote:
Hey,
Jim Fulton wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com
wrote:
Hi there,
Apparently some people are using '0' instead of the next version for
packages in the ZTK.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary Poster gary.pos...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, since I'm also in the setup.py should be able to specify
minimum versions camp (admittedly unlike others, such as Benji, to my
continued surprise)
I agree with you on this point; it's quite useful for setup.py to
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Martijn Faassen
faas...@startifact.com wrote:
* I (and others) use tools to do releases (zest.releaser in my case).
These tools are based on this policy. Changing the policy breaks the tools.
Jim Fulton wrote:
* it breaks dependencies on development versions which have version
requirements in it (see Wichert's comments on the original thread).
I'm not sure I understand this.
I think your answer is below, and your solution would be to add a == 0
to the dependencies.
We're
Fred Drake wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com
wrote:
So, could you please follow this policy for ZTK packages in SVN?
I suspect it would help if packages that are part of the ZTK have that
indicated somewhere convenient, like near where the
I'm guilty of causing most these packages to violate the standards,
while making their tests pass.
Jim
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Martijn Faassen
faas...@startifact.com wrote:
Hi there,
I was doing some thrawling of ZTK packages anyway, and this was easy.
So, it appears the following
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 09:53:51AM -0400, Benji York wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
3) [no] superfluous version bumps on the trunk
I don't understand this one. Could you
Jim Fulton wrote:
I'm guilty of causing most these packages to violate the standards,
while making their tests pass.
Wasn't my intent to track down the guilty, just ran into this
information and wanted to record it for posterity.
Making their tests pass is of course way more important than
Hey,
Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 09:53:51AM -0400, Benji York wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
3) [no] superfluous version bumps on the trunk
I don't understand this
On Sep 11, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Martijn Faassen wrote:
Hey,
Marius Gedminas wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 09:53:51AM -0400, Benji York wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Marius Gedminas
mar...@gedmin.as wrote:
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 04:23:31PM -0400, Benji York wrote:
3) [no]
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 16:58, Martijn Faassen faas...@startifact.com wrote:
Hi Martjin
Hey,
Christian Theune wrote:
[snip]
Same here. We also ended up in many deadlock situations having to
sacrifice chickens for SVN to resume operations. That's why we started
investigating alternatives
Hi. pypi advertises http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.zservertracelog/1.2.0
but there is no download to be found! :-) Could whoever made the
release add the download?
Thanks
Gary
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On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 03:51:30PM -0400, Gary Poster wrote:
Hi. pypi advertises http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.zservertracelog/1.2.0
but there is no download to be found! :-) Could whoever made the
release add the download?
Is it important that the same person do it? In theory, since
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 03:51:30PM -0400, Gary Poster wrote:
Hi. pypi advertises http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.zservertracelog/1.2.0
but there is no download to be found! :-) Could whoever made the
release add the
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Alexander J Smith a...@zope.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 03:51:30PM -0400, Gary Poster wrote:
Hi. pypi advertises http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zc.zservertracelog/1.2.0
but there is
On Sep 11, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Alexander J Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Alexander J Smith a...@zope.com
wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as
wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 03:51:30PM -0400, Gary Poster wrote:
Hi. pypi advertises
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 05:51:16PM -0400, Gary Poster wrote:
On Sep 11, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Alexander J Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Alexander J Smith a...@zope.com
wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Marius Gedminas mar...@gedmin.as
wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11,
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