Re: [Zope-dev] Version Numbering for Ported Packages

2013-03-13 Thread Stephan Richter
ecked by winbot and the pnes that we ported because we use them in our project. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/li

Re: [Zope-dev] Version Numbering for Ported Packages

2013-03-14 Thread Stephan Richter
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Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 6, OK: 12

2013-03-14 Thread Stephan Richter
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Re: [Zope-dev] Switching zope.testbrowser to webtest instead of mechanize

2013-03-14 Thread Stephan Richter
difications > under new implementation. An update here: The large zope.testbrowser README.txt file is now passing with WebTest in Python 2.7. There are a few more failures to fix, but Andrey is confident he can get those resolved quickly. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Ge

[Zope-dev] Problems writing ContainedProxy Python version

2013-03-14 Thread Stephan Richter
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Re: [Zope-dev] [Checkins] [zopefoundation/zope.container] 9100fc: Tagging 3.11.2

2013-03-19 Thread Stephan Richter
ix this, I think, is to change the Python implementation of the security proxy or Persistent to not have slots and only define the slots in a derived class. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" _

Re: [Zope-dev] request for more package migrations to github

2013-03-22 Thread Stephan Richter
ags, branches, trunk structure. JW, I'll convert all other packages. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zop

Re: [Zope-dev] five.grok -> svn

2013-04-11 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 04:43:17 PM Leonardo Rochael Almeida wrote: > Can anyone please migrate five.grok to GitHub? Done. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] zope-tests - FAILED: 4, OK: 8

2013-09-12 Thread Stephan Richter
actually wanted here is a new API: > >browser.handleRedirects = False >browser.open(...) # or browser.submit() >assert browser.getHeaders('Status') == '302 Found' > > Comments? +1 That looks good. Regards, Stephan -- Entre

Re: [Zope-dev] Please Help!!! - HelpSys

2000-05-23 Thread Stephan Richter
product. You can create an instance for it the usual way. You might want to look at the Boring product to see how to set one up. Much luck with your project. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management

[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope] newbie question: parameter passing for ZSQL Object

2000-05-28 Thread Stephan Richter
hat is typical Python syntax. So in case you want to know why and how that works, read a little in the Python documentation (which is btw excellent.) Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Man

Re: [Zope-dev] New Help System in 2.2

2000-05-30 Thread Stephan Richter
hey both decided it is the best to have the documentation separately. I believe that they looked at the issue from all angles and had good reasons, why they went with the current way. Furthermore, the help system will become even more than just the screen help. The .py files you see, are just

Re: [Zope-dev] New Help System in 2.2

2000-05-30 Thread Stephan Richter
>Excellent. I am reading it. I founfa few "not found"'s but that stuff >probably just not loaded yet. Yeah, me too. I am fixing that as I am going along. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU - Physics and Chemistry Web2k - Web Design/Development & Tec

[Zope-dev] [ANN] Zope at Linuxtag 2000 in Stuttgart

2000-06-02 Thread Stephan Richter
also like to know, who would be able to come, so I can give the Linuxtag staff some feedback. Here are some subjects I thought we could have: The ZDP Portal (Maik Roeder, ), XML in Zope (I know Martijn F. did a lot of work there. ;-), An Introduction to Zope for newbies (Stephan Ric

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.test.doctest made into monkey-patches (Was: Circular dependency hell.)

2010-04-20 Thread Stephan Richter
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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.test.doctest made into monkey-patches (Was: Circular dependency hell.)

2010-04-20 Thread Stephan Richter
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Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.formjs on win32 + KGS

2010-04-26 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 24 April 2010, Adam GROSZER wrote: > * Use an other JSON converter (simplejson?) Definitely switch to simplejson. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist

Re: [Zope-dev] pypi access to zope.browserresource, zope.browsermenu

2010-04-26 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 26 April 2010, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Could someone give me and Hanno pypi access to zope.browserresource and > zope.browsermenu? Done. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter"

Re: [Zope-dev] pypi access to zope.browserresource, zope.browsermenu

2010-04-26 Thread Stephan Richter
ts the same. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related

Re: [Zope-dev] releasing KGS

2010-04-28 Thread Stephan Richter
Whom to ask for permission or to do the upload? I think your best bet would be a mail to the foundation-info list. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.or

Re: [Zope-dev] version pinning on tags

2010-04-29 Thread Stephan Richter
pendencies are. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! **

Re: [Zope-dev] windows binaries

2010-04-29 Thread Stephan Richter
I think it is the best we can do for now that scales. As for Python versions, you simply have to installthem all and go through the dance. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev mai

Re: [Zope-dev] windows binaries

2010-04-29 Thread Stephan Richter
? If you can isntall it on 64bit, it should be able to compile to it as well. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listi

Re: [Zope-dev] version pinning on tags

2010-04-29 Thread Stephan Richter
ansferred to the branch/tag automatically. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross

Re: [Zope-dev] pypi access for zope.app.authentication and zope.password

2010-05-25 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday, May 26, 2010, Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote: > Could someone grant me pypi access to zope.app.authentication and > zope.password? Done. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter"

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testrunner 4.0.0b2 problem

2010-06-10 Thread Stephan Richter
ince I released zc.recipe.testrunner last night that uses zope.testrunner instead of zope.testing. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testrunner 4.0.0b2 problem

2010-06-10 Thread Stephan Richter
up? BTW, pinning zc.recipe.testrunner to 1.2.0 will do the trick. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev **

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testrunner 4.0.0b2 problem

2010-06-10 Thread Stephan Richter
0b1. I think that would be a bit harsh and not fix the Zope 2 problem, if no versions are pinned, since even 2.0b1 will be picked up as latest. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zo

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Stephan Richter
On Sunday, June 13, 2010, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, David Glick wrote: > > Has the process of reviewing RestrictedPython against a new Python > > release been documented anywhere? > > Not that I know of. Stephan Richter and Sidnei da Silva

Re: [Zope-dev] New release of z3c.form

2010-07-01 Thread Stephan Richter
bled, I wonder whether we could stick the docs into http://packages.python.org/z3c.form. Manuel does this already: http://packages.python.org/manuel/ Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-

Re: [Zope-dev] audit of RestrictedPython for Python 2.7

2010-07-09 Thread Stephan Richter
x27;m not missing something important. I'll describe my process > and findings below. This is a good analysis. I looked over your checkins as they came in and they look good. I am glad you caught the import problem. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google

Re: [Zope-dev] Including Paste into the ZTK version list?

2010-07-09 Thread Stephan Richter
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Re: [Zope-dev] Can ZTK 1.0 support Python 2.7?

2010-07-13 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday, July 13, 2010, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > What do others think about this? Based on what you wrote, I think this is the right solution. Python 2.4 is clearly important to the Zope 2 / Plone world. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan

Re: [Zope-dev] New releases of Zope2 (incl. a potential security fix)

2010-07-13 Thread Stephan Richter
On Tuesday, July 13, 2010, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > In other news Zope 2.13.0a2 now officially supports Python 2.7. How can Zope 2.13 support Python 2.7, when the ZTK 1.0 does not? Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing / zope.testrunner path forward:

2010-07-21 Thread Stephan Richter
ng as that recipe works, we are good. :-) Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or

Re: [Zope-dev] Class advisors in Python 3

2010-07-30 Thread Stephan Richter
ving to go Py3 all the way. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encodin

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Stephan Richter
f the package, if the other two methods fail. This would turn on documentation for a lot of packages and we can move them over slowly. But otherwise, it is great to see such great progress on docs.zope.org! Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter"

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Stephan Richter
a simple way that does not require full installation. I agree. This does not build the package: python setup.py --long-description Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev mail

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Stephan Richter
a stylesheet. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - h

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday, August 02, 2010, Stephan Richter wrote: > py26 setup.py --long-description | rst2html > > rst2html have many options that allow you to modify the style, including > the ability to specify a stylesheet. Oh, btw, this is also the method that we used to verify t

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-02 Thread Stephan Richter
FYI: If there is no long description (which is very unlikely), then the string "UNKNOWN" is returned from the --long-description call. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Z

Re: [Zope-dev] docs.zope.org automation

2010-08-03 Thread Stephan Richter
that programmatically. Yeah, this looks good. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross post

Re: [Zope-dev] Retire zope3-checkins list

2010-08-09 Thread Stephan Richter
t[1]. +1 Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - h

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: ETag support for zope.browserresource

2010-08-09 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday, August 09, 2010, Marius Gedminas wrote: > Does anybody have any comments/objections? If not, I'd like to merge > this to trunk and release zope.browserresource 3.11.0. Looks good to me. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.appsetup and RootErrorReportingUtility

2010-08-30 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday, August 30, 2010, Adam GROSZER wrote: > Anyone objects a change to "copy_to_zlog=True" as default? +1 Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

Re: [Zope-dev] buidout 1.5

2010-09-17 Thread Stephan Richter
but I would still prefer no feature release changes in the ZTK now. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev **

Re: [Zope-dev] Python 2.4 Support

2010-09-17 Thread Stephan Richter
> > At this point, the burden of keeping 2.4 compatibility is too high for > ongoing development. I agree. We have to support Python 2.5, 2.6 and 2.7 already. There is also a desire to use newer releases, since they get us closer to Python 3. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Softw

Re: [Zope-dev] Fwd: [Checkins] SVN: zope.component/branches/adamg-fix-getSiteManager/ - Fix _api.getSiteManager in the way that it returns now

2010-10-27 Thread Stephan Richter
; If noone objects until then, I'll merge to trunk and make a new > release. I am going to need z3c.baseregistry in the next few days as well and we are on Bluebream 1.0b5, so I am all for getting this in ASAP. :-) Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google

Re: [Zope-dev] Context priority as an alternative to configuration directive overrides

2010-12-02 Thread Stephan Richter
se this element anywhere and it can be nested, it should work well. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev *

Re: [Zope-dev] One z3c.rml test failure on Linux -- bug in ReportLab?

2010-12-20 Thread Stephan Richter
ment with ReportLab, you are not guaranteed a clean state, since ReportLab uses module-global variables to keep track of state. This is the reason, Roger implemented running the renderer in a sub-process and all the tests are run twice. Regards, Stephan --

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Stephan Richter
g bug reports from users. And it had 742 downloads since July. That is not a huge number, but more than other packages that are not part of the standard Plone/Zope 2/Bluebream dependency tree. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google m

Re: [Zope-dev] One z3c.rml test failure on Linux -- bug in ReportLab?

2010-12-21 Thread Stephan Richter
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-21 Thread Stephan Richter
tree. > > If only those bugreports would get some response :) You having an outstanding one to me? :-) I have addressed all the ones in my inbox in July. :-) I could find some time in the next days to do another round of bug fixing. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google m

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 40 OK, 4 Failed

2010-12-22 Thread Stephan Richter
ve a generated DTD that you could use for validation in the mean time. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testbrowser and WebTest (round 2)

2011-02-01 Thread Stephan Richter
ake_wsgi_app is there to > facilitate the test setup. > > I think as long as we preserve this API (which seems sound to me, but of > course I'm biased ;-), we're free to change stuff under the hood. +1 Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Gee

Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.formjs widgetselector customization

2011-02-15 Thread Stephan Richter
ing a release later. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 71 OK, 16 Failed

2011-02-28 Thread Stephan Richter
any idea? Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - ht

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-19 Thread Stephan Richter
k Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-03-21 Thread Stephan Richter
ne. :-) I guess I could take a bullet > for the team too, but that still makes only two. Maybe next year. :-) Jim said he would be willing to mentor someone for the right project. That would make us three. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google

Re: [Zope-dev] Non-ZCML config for ZCA. (Was: Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?)

2011-03-21 Thread Stephan Richter
entally, I was just needing this today and implemented it using sm.adapters.lookup1. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/li

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 73 OK, 12 Failed, 4 Unknown

2011-03-25 Thread Stephan Richter
Marius about making z3c.coverage work with Ned's latest version. :-) Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-d

Re: [Zope-dev] Test fixture concepts

2011-03-29 Thread Stephan Richter
e time for the narrative). I am getting used to it. I still much prefer the sort of output comparison that doctests/manuel gives me over the assertion language that unittest.TestCase requires. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" __

Re: [Zope-dev] CSRF protection for z3c.form

2011-04-04 Thread Stephan Richter
avoid CSRF attacks, can you briefly describe the sequence that is used to avoid those requests? Maybe we can some up with a tightly integrated solution. I have no problem with modifying z3c.form to support such a feature. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] CSRF protection for z3c.form

2011-04-04 Thread Stephan Richter
'm happy to go with (3). I assume it is not common for z3c.form users > to have non-button actions or customize the ButtonActionHandler? Not in my experience. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___

Re: [Zope-dev] Anyone want to do Google Summer of code mentoring for PSF?

2011-04-05 Thread Stephan Richter
phan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope

Re: [Zope-dev] zope.interface versions, ZTK 1.0 and later

2011-08-12 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday, August 12, 2011, Tres Seaver wrote: > Thoughts? +1. Sounds like a good plan. Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zop

Re: [Zope-dev] transaction pkg py3 / doctests

2011-09-25 Thread Stephan Richter
ly, they are a zope.testing feature. :-( Any thoughts on how renormalizers and a few other features could be released separately? Regards, Stephan -- Entrepreneur and Software Geek Google me. "Zope Stephan Richter" ___ Zope-Dev maillist -

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