Re: [Zope-dev] Competition

2001-12-06 Thread Clark O'Brien
I don't think ZC feels this way. Note the comment by Hadar Pedhazur, Chairman of Zope Corporation: comment at:http://www.zope.com/News/PressReleases/DC2ZC This name change is intended to ensure that Zope and the company that develops Zope are more closely associated with one another in the

RE: [Zope-dev] Competition

2001-12-06 Thread Clark O'Brien
Message- From: Clark O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:57 PM To: Casey Duncan; R. David Murray; Chris Withers Cc: Stephan Richter; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Competition I don't think ZC feels this way. Note the comment by Hadar

RE: [Zope-dev] Competition

2001-12-06 Thread Clark O'Brien
problems can happen from hoarding beans, don't you? Sean -Original Message- From: Clark O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] Competition No I am not implying anything other

Re: [Zope-dev] Open letters, hijacking and the like

2001-12-02 Thread Clark O'Brien
I am hearing to different stories, sometimes from the same people. On the one hand ZC is this munificent benefactor of Zope. On the other hand ZC is this poor cash strapped little company that can't afford to take any interest in Zope unless they have an immediate incentive. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT

Re: [Zope-dev] Open letters, hijacking and the like

2001-12-02 Thread Clark O'Brien
Just as a last comment- and this is getting tiresome even for me. My favorite freeware project is JBoss www.jboss.org. They built a really excellent J2EE server without any corporate funding. The JBoss developers manage the training and support for JBoss themselves, and use the revenue it

Re: [Zope-dev] Open Letter to zope-dev

2001-12-01 Thread Clark O'Brien
If anyone has seen how open source works, there is usually a strong core team - like the ZC folks- who provide direction to the project. There are also dozens if not hundreds of enthusiastic folks who are less involved but contribute features, patches, bug fixes, documentation ... Despite the

[Zope-dev] Zope has been Hijacked! Save Zope!

2001-11-30 Thread Clark O'Brien
Thanks Andrew for a heartfelt description of what is happening here. It is clear that unlike the other freeware products like Lenux, JBoss.., Zope has lost all of the advantages of being a freeware product. What I find sad is that the extreme commercialization of Zope is hurting Zope- this

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope has been Hijacked! Save Zope!

2001-11-30 Thread Clark O'Brien
Chris, I posted the bug at 11/30/2001 11:17 AM, a copy was also sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using a different e-mail now because my other e-mail address no longer receives messages from zope-dev. Clark --- Chris McDonough [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted a serious