Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope without Zope

2007-11-17 Thread Stefan H. Holek
On 17. Nov 2007, at 02:15, Martin Aspeli wrote: I understand the historical reasons behind these dependencies, but I genuinely think we should pick a few libraries that are useful to the outside world (zope.interface, zope.component, zope.configuration, zope.annotation, zope.event come to

Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Zope without Zope

2007-11-17 Thread Jim Fulton
On Nov 16, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: ... In any case, I definitely see a case for both. I can't see a good reason why we can't have support for simple XML-based component registration without having to depend on the ZODB and tons of other Zope eggs. You're right. We can.

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope without Zope

2007-11-17 Thread Martin Aspeli
Jim Fulton wrote: I understand the historical reasons behind these dependencies, but I genuinely think we should pick a few libraries that are useful to the outside world (zope.interface, zope.component, zope.configuration, zope.annotation, zope.event come to mind) and work to make these

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope without Zope

2007-11-17 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote: On Friday 16 November 2007, Jim Fulton wrote: Something is broken here and it needs to be fixed. Well, the easiest solution would be to remove those misbehaving distributions from the cheeseshop. However, I think we kid ourselves if we think that the cheeseshop will

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope without Zope

2007-11-16 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi Chris, Then I tried to easy_install zope.security, but this pulled in most of Zope, including the ZODB, ZConfig and zdaemon. That's a real shame - no CA (at least not with ZCML) without having pretty much all of Zope there. :( Yup. Inappropriate dependency chain when you use the

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope without Zope

2007-11-16 Thread Rob Miller
Lennart Regebro wrote: On Nov 16, 2007 11:41 AM, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2007 3:38 AM, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help appreciated! Well, I suggest you forget about ZCML and try to use the CA directly from Python. The Pylons people would probably

[Zope-dev] Re: Zope without Zope

2007-11-16 Thread Martin Aspeli
Rob Miller wrote: Lennart Regebro wrote: On Nov 16, 2007 11:41 AM, Lennart Regebro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 16, 2007 3:38 AM, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Help appreciated! Well, I suggest you forget about ZCML and try to use the CA directly from Python. The Pylons people