Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-27 Thread Chris McDonough
> Erik Enge wrote: > > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Chris Withers wrote: > > > > > Erik Enge wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm using Zope 2.3.1b1 so that shouldn't be a problem? > > > > > > Yes, it will be. [...] > > > > So the "bug" in Zope 2.3.1b1 which makes the ZODB grow dramatically is > > gone in Zop

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-27 Thread Chris Withers
Erik Enge wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Chris Withers wrote: > > > Erik Enge wrote: > > > > > > I'm using Zope 2.3.1b1 so that shouldn't be a problem? > > > > Yes, it will be. [...] > > So the "bug" in Zope 2.3.1b1 which makes the ZODB grow dramatically is > gone in Zope 2.3.2b2? Not so much

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-27 Thread Erik Enge
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Chris Withers wrote: > Erik Enge wrote: > > > > I'm using Zope 2.3.1b1 so that shouldn't be a problem? > > Yes, it will be. [...] So the "bug" in Zope 2.3.1b1 which makes the ZODB grow dramatically is gone in Zope 2.3.2b2? ___

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-27 Thread Chris Withers
Erik Enge wrote: > > > The old (pre 2.3.1) catalog implementation was know not to be very > > storage friendly. If a significant portion of the catalog indexes > > would be affected by imports, then you would see a quadratic storage > > increase. > > I'm using Zope 2.3.1b1 so that shouldn't be a

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-27 Thread Erik Enge
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Chris McDonough wrote: > This level of growth doesn't seem like a sane level of growth... what > Zope version are you using? Zope 2.3.1b1 > > Someone told me that ZEO and bulk-adding could be a thing to look at... > > Isn't bulk-adding what you're doing now? It is, but

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-27 Thread Erik Enge
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Are the imported object "CatalogAware"? They are. > The old (pre 2.3.1) catalog implementation was know not to be very > storage friendly. If a significant portion of the catalog indexes > would be affected by imports, then you would see a quadratic s

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-26 Thread Dieter Maurer
Erik Enge writes: > I've just finished adding a somewhat small number of objects: 5000. > For every 1000th object, the Data.fs seemed to grow to about 900MB; that's > when things started going slow, in a non-linear fashion (this is more a > hunch than something I payed much attention to). >

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-26 Thread Chris McDonough
Erik Enge wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Michael R. Bernstein wrote: > > > I'm trying to find out of there is a point where you start getting > > non-linear performance penalties for additional objects (storing, > > retreiving, or indexing). > > I've just finished adding a somewhat small number

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-26 Thread Erik Enge
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Michael R. Bernstein wrote: > I'm trying to find out of there is a point where you start getting > non-linear performance penalties for additional objects (storing, > retreiving, or indexing). I've just finished adding a somewhat small number of objects: 5000. For every 1000t

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Sin Hang Kin
Concerning Zcatalog: 1. Search of vocabulary is fully matched, partial search, trancate search or fuzzy search will be useful for searcher. 2. If we catalog all things in one catalog, then we need to make filter when we want to search on one particular portation. 3. I would like to suggest :

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Andy McKay
> Andy McKay wrote: > > > > Any cataloguing and un-cataloguing of an object is expensive, c'mon you are > > changing all the indices, vocabulary and so on. You never notice it normally > > for 1 - 10 things, but run an import script of 1 and catalog each object > > as it gets added (rather tha

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Chris McDonough
> In other words, does the time to > store/index/reindex/retreive an object change (for the > worse) depending on whether there are 10,000 objects, > 100,000 objects or 10,000,000 objects stored/cataloged in > the ZODB/ZCatalog? I don't think it makes much of a difference. At least not a big one

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Michael R. Bernstein
Andy McKay wrote: > > Any cataloguing and un-cataloguing of an object is expensive, c'mon you are > changing all the indices, vocabulary and so on. You never notice it normally > for 1 - 10 things, but run an import script of 1 and catalog each object > as it gets added (rather than all of th

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Chris Withers
Andy McKay wrote: > > Any cataloguing and un-cataloguing of an object is expensive, c'mon you are > changing all the indices, vocabulary and so on. Yup... > You never notice it normally > for 1 - 10 things, but run an import script of 1 and catalog each object > as it gets added (rather th

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Chris Withers
Andy McKay wrote: > > As I said this was a year ago... but still incremental cataloging is very > expensive. How come? I always thought this was one of Zope's strong points as opposed to, say, Lotus Notes' batch view buildign paradigm... cheers, Chris _

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Chris McDonough
hris Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Erik Enge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael R. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects. > Any cataloguing and un-catalo

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Andy McKay
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael R. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects. > Andy McKay wrote: > > > > As I said this was a year ago... but still incremental catalogin

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Andy McKay
ot;Michael R. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects. > Zopista wrote: > > > > Hear, hear. The cost of the incremental cataloguing is horrific. One of our > > dev

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Chris Withers
Zopista wrote: > > Hear, hear. The cost of the incremental cataloguing is horrific. One of our > developers when we started with Zope a year ago wrote a great script that > imported a bunch, restarted zope, packed it, restarted it, imported a bunch > more to get optimal performance. We dont do it

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Zopista
> I don't know, but I feel that is the case. Actually, I know it is the > case, but I don't know what is causing it. I know what isn't helping > though; CatalogAwareness. I added 2000 objects with XML-RPC. No other > queries were done during that period. For each object about 70 DTML > Method

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-09 Thread Erik Enge
On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Michael R. Bernstein wrote: > I'm trying to find out of there is a point where you start getting > non-linear performance penalties for additional objects (storing, > retreiving, or indexing). I don't know, but I feel that is the case. Actually, I know it is the case, but I

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-05 Thread Andy McKay
ot;Erik Enge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects. > Erik Enge wrote: > > > > The programmer solving our problems with the post codes has solved it in a > > different way

Re: [Zope-dev] 27 million objects.

2001-04-05 Thread Michael R. Bernstein
Erik Enge wrote: > > The programmer solving our problems with the post codes has solved it in a > different way than what I would've done (his method is way superior), so > we're not ending up adding all addresses as Zope Objects. Oh well. Does anyone else have any setups that store truly massiv