Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-06 Thread Dario Lopez-Kästen
> 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level: INFO > 2. In addition, please specify if you feel those retried > ConflictErrors should have their full traceback logged? no traceback > 3. Finally, please tell us if the ConflictErrors that *can't* be > retried (and are return

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-06 Thread Michael Dunstan
How about adding a URL to the logged message? Something like "See http://zope.org/ConflictError"; detailing the difference between a retried and unresovled ConflictErrors and how to recognise them in the event.log. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zo

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-06 Thread M. Krainer
1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level:INFO 2. In addition, please specify if you feel those retriedConflictErrors should have their full traceback logged? no, without traceback 3. Finally, please tell us if the ConflictErrors that *can't* be retried (and are returned to t

Re: ConflictError's worthwhile to note? (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging)

2005-12-06 Thread Chris Withers
Dieter Maurer wrote: In a similar way, I could argue that "MemoryError"s are there by design. While it is true that *occational* "ConflictError"s are nothing to worry about, a higher rate indicates that you soon may come into trouble -- because the risk increases that the automatic r

ConflictError's worthwhile to note? (was: Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging)

2005-12-05 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote at 2005-12-4 22:28 +0100: > ... >In the log flle I'd like to be informed about events that are >unexpected. Conflict errors of this kind occur "by design". This argument is not convincing: In a similar way, I could argue that "MemoryError"s are there by design. W

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-05 Thread Julien Anguenot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florent Guillaume wrote: > Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict > errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user > but automatically retried by the Zope publisher. > > 1. Do you want these Conflict

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-05 Thread Willi Langenberger
Florent Guillaume wrote at 2005-12-2 23:00 +0100: >Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict >errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user >but automatically retried by the Zope publisher. > >1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-05 Thread Andrew Sawyers
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 23:00 +0100, Florent Guillaume wrote: > 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level: > - INFO INFO > - BLATHER > - DEBUG > - not logged > - other > > 2. In addition, please specify if you feel those retried > ConflictErrors should have their full traceba

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-05 Thread Chris Withers
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: In my case it's mostly filesystem-based resources (css files, or images) accessed in read mode (zope-2.8.4). But the information no matter where it comes from has very little value compared to other messages in the log file, because these are completely predictable.

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-04 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Dieter Maurer wrote: Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote at 2005-12-2 23:57 +0100: ... on what level to report retried ConflictError ... BLATHER (I have never be able to get any meaningful information from them, except that zope tries several times) That's because the generated messages *were*

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Florent Guillaume wrote at 2005-12-2 23:00 +0100: >Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict >errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user >but automatically retried by the Zope publisher. > >1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-04 Thread Dieter Maurer
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote at 2005-12-2 23:57 +0100: > ... on what level to report retried ConflictError ... >BLATHER (I have never be able to get any meaningful information from >them, except that zope tries several times) That's because the generated messages *were* uninformative. You can see t

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Withers
Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: BLATHER (I have never be able to get any meaningful information from them, except that zope tries several times) That's because they excluded any useful information before. The implementation I've put in tells you, at info level, what error actually occurred, what o

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-02 Thread Chris Withers
Florent Guillaume wrote: 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level: - INFO 2. In addition, please specify if you feel those retried ConflictErrors should have their full traceback logged? - No, without traceback The actual traceback for any conflict error is pretty us

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-02 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Florent Guillaume wrote: Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user but automatically retried by the Zope publisher. 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level: - INFO - BLATH

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-02 Thread Dennis Allison
1. INFO 2. Yes, with traceback (necessary as these are heissenevents) 3. ERROR 4. don't care -- we can adapt Thanks Florent for taking the lead on this. I think it's a great help. On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Florent Guillaume wrote: > Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried con

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-02 Thread Chris McDonough
On Dec 2, 2005, at 5:00 PM, Florent Guillaume wrote: Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user but automatically retried by the Zope publisher. 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs t

Re: [Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-02 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level: INFO 2. In addition, please specify if you feel those retried ConflictErrors should have their full traceback logged? no traceback 3. Finally, please tell us if the ConflictErrors that *can't* be retried (and are returned

[Zope-dev] Please vote about conflict errors logging

2005-12-02 Thread Florent Guillaume
Please vote for the level at which you want to log retried conflict errors. These are the ConflictErrors that aren't returned to the user but automatically retried by the Zope publisher. 1. Do you want these ConflictErrors retried logs to be at level: - INFO - BLATHER - DEBUG - not logged - o