Re: [Zope-dev] License issues

2000-11-14 Thread Juan David Ibáñez Palomar
> > The FSF page says this in regards to the ZPL: > > [snip] > > We urge you not to use the license of Zope for software you write. > However, > > there is no reason to avoid running programs that have been released under > > this license, such as Zope. > > So what is the issue you are raising?

Re: [Zope-dev] License issues

2000-11-14 Thread Chris Withers
Juan David IbXXez Palomar wrote: > > software, but I know there's people that don't use Zope because of this > incompatibility. their loss... Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cro

Re: [Zope-dev] License issues

2000-11-14 Thread Juan David Ibáñez Palomar
> > Juan David IbXXez Palomar wrote: > > > > software, but I know there's people that don't use Zope because of this > > incompatibility. > > their loss... > > Chris > yes, their loss, but also our loss www.barrapunto.com is the most important weblog about free software in Spain and probab

Re: [Zope-dev] License issues

2000-11-14 Thread Chris Withers
Juan David IbXXez Palomar wrote: > > And more, there's already zope software with the GPL license, for > example ZWiki. ZWiki is included in Debian, probably the Debian > developer that maintains the package is not aware of these license > issues. Has any open source license issue actually come

Re: [Zope-dev] License issues

2000-11-14 Thread Juan David Ibáñez Palomar
> > Has any open source license issue actually come to court yet? > > How many people really care about this compared to the number of people > who just want to get on, develop and use software in an open source > community fashion and don't want to get involved in religious flame > wars? > > M

Re: [Zope-dev] CatalogTNG

2000-11-14 Thread Christopher Petrilli
> Christopher Petrilli wrote: > > > > > Chris Petrilli is working on a fishbowl proposal for CatalogNG; > > > I'm pretty sure he intends to adopt some kind of observer/event > > > scheme to make it work. > > > > CatalogTNG is definately going to be top down, rather than bottom up (its > > current

Re: [Zope-dev] License issues

2000-11-14 Thread Christopher Petrilli
> this is not about religion and a flame war is the last thing I want > > I only wanted to let you know about these facts, and yes there're > projects that have been hurt by "license issues", for example KDE. Regaurding licensing, twhile I wouldn't want to snuff out freedom of speech, I would sa

Re: [Zope-dev] License issues

2000-11-14 Thread Juan David Ibáñez Palomar
> > > > Regaurding licensing, twhile I wouldn't want to snuff out freedom of speech, > I would say that we have already had the "Licensing Wars" about 18 months > ago, and things are settled and non negotiable at this point. Arguing only > creates tension in the community, which does more dama

[Zope-dev] Adding execute() to Zope DA's for use by External methods

2000-11-14 Thread Brad Clements
I have Python code that I use outside of Zope, and inside Zope via external methods. This code uses database adapters (anything version 1 or later). When my code is used within Zope, I have in the past had two database connections from within the Zope process. One connection is the actual Zop

Re: [Zope-dev] License issues

2000-11-14 Thread Simon Michael
Juan, thanks for shining some light towards this murky area. Maybe ZWiki and other zope products need to be LGPL or dual-licensed, maybe the zope license can use some refinement. I for one won't know without seeing some enlightened discussion of the issue. This stuff is unsexy but important. Bes

[Zope-dev] Two glaring omissions

2000-11-14 Thread Alexander Limi
Hi, I've been working with Zope for almost two years now, and there are two things that I feel is missing in the interface: 1. The ability to add a Base class after the class is created 2. The ability to rename properties after instances of the classes have been created (and have the data in

[Zope-dev] SQL Method Question

2000-11-14 Thread Steven Grimes
I need to do a SQL Outer Join information from three different tables and display the results on a page and I can't figure out how to write the query in a single SQL method. I can't create a temporary table due to tight disk space. Any suggestions?   ThanksSteven GrimesDatabase Engineer[EMAIL

[Zope-dev] large PersistentMapping

2000-11-14 Thread Robin Becker
I'm trying to build a Reverse Cross Referencing Product. The idea is to enable documents to know which other documents in the Zope data base are pointing at them. I would like to use a persistent mapping to store the link information, but since eventually the object might be quite large will I get

Re: [Zope-dev] Two glaring omissions

2000-11-14 Thread Andy McKay
Of course all those points can be done in python, im assuming you are talking about ZClasses. -- Andy McKay, Developer. ActiveState. - Original Message - From: "Alexander Limi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 11:35 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Tw

Re: [Zope-dev] Two glaring omissions

2000-11-14 Thread Shane Hathaway
Alexander Limi wrote: > I've been working with Zope for almost two years now, and there are two > things that I feel is missing in the interface: > > 1. The ability to add a Base class after the class is created This is a feature we'd like to have, but the way ZClasses work currently makes it da

Re: [Zope-dev] unbuffered html from external method

2000-11-14 Thread Dieter Maurer
Andy McKay writes: > Is it possible to print unbuffered html output to the user from an external > method. It looks to me like I can't, output occurs upon the return and I > cant see a way of getting around that. "self.REQUEST.RESPONSE.write()" Be aware of the restriction of "HTTPResponse.

Re: [Zope-dev] PythonMethods: Can't Slice context.REQUEST.PARENTS

2000-11-14 Thread Dieter Maurer
The Doctor What writes: > Using context.this().id, self.this().id, m_self.this().id all get me > the same things: > Folder, Zope, and my method. None give me the DTML Document > foo_html. If it is indeed a DTML Document, then "this()" should reference this document. If it is a DTML Method, th

Re: [Zope-dev] PythonMethods: Can't Slice context.REQUEST.PARENTS

2000-11-14 Thread The Doctor What
I got a reply from someone working on it. It seems the answer is that it doesn't exist yet, pending a change in ZOPE itself. So I have to pass it in: Not a big deal, but annoying. I'll make the source available as soon as I coble together a view-source method. :) Ciao! -- "Well, given that

Re: [Zope-dev] PythonMethods: Can't Slice context.REQUEST.PARENTS

2000-11-14 Thread Dieter Maurer
Evan Simpson writes: > From: The Doctor What <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Using context.this().id, self.this().id, m_self.this().id > all get me > > the same things: > > Folder, Zope, and my method. None give me the DTML > Document > > foo_html. > > > > This would seem to be an important thin

Re: [Zope-dev] PythonMethods: Can't Slice context.REQUEST.PARENTS

2000-11-14 Thread Evan Simpson
From: "Dieter Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > The only information about your caller that you can get is > > the contents of their namespace. So, in the final release, > > you would be able to bind the caller's namespace to "_" and > > write _.this().id. That requires a change to Zope, thoug

[Zope-dev] ZPatterns Product distribution not showing up as a product?

2000-11-14 Thread jimbo
Hi, If I try to distribute it and leave it set for "Allow redistribution". Its not showing up in the Zope products directory tree after I untar the 3 files into the file system products directory and restarting Zope. I have a Dataskin based ZClass, 2 Specialist, the default constructor forms.