[Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Lennart Regebro
There is currently a poposal to make MailHost transactional, so you can be sure that you sent the mail. However, when you have multiple recipients, that doesn't solve the problem, because then you actually get "half done" transactions. Smtplib.SMTP.sendmail is nice enough to send back a list of wh

Re: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Andreas Jung
This approach makes no sense. Email uses the store-and-forward principle. This means your local mailserver could accept the delivery but it can never guarantee you that the mail is really delivered to the recipients. It can only confirm that it accepts the email for delivery and nothing else. And

Re: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Lennart Regebro
Hmm, thats true... But in this case it doesn't accept it for delivery, and the sender doesn't get to know that either. I realized that in most cases it's not a problem, since mostly MailHost is used to send mailforms to a specific set of recipients, and then you don't want to tell the website visi

RE: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Trevor Toenjes
I like the idea of having this capability. Having the option to integrate it into sendmail or as a standalone scrubber would be ideal. Could this become a product? Next week I get a new list of 500 emails that has never been tested. I would like to do an SMTP handshake(without sending) to verify

Re: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: "Trevor Toenjes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I like the idea of having this capability. > Having the option to integrate it into sendmail or as a standalone scrubber > would be ideal. Could this become a product? Uhm, no, I don't think so. This is more a question of weather to add an option to m

Re: [Zope-dev] from Globals import Persistent

2001-11-15 Thread R. David Murray
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Benjamin Buffereau wrote: > I'm using the binary version of Zope 2.4.3 for Windows. I'm trying to run the > PollProduct example of the Zope Developper's Guide, and it seems to me that > there is a big problem with the import of the name "Persistent". Here is what I > get tryin

[Zope-dev] Binary Image File in Hexadecimal Format

2001-11-15 Thread Juan Javier Carrera Obrero
Hello,   I am generating a RTF file from Python 2.1 with Zope 2.4, using the "Rich Text Format (RTF) Version 1.6 Specification" (http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/specs/rtfspec.htm).   But I can not include a "jpg" image in the RTF file. For including the "jpg" image file, firstly, I have obt

RE: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out ofseveral?

2001-11-15 Thread Matt Hamilton
On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Trevor Toenjes wrote: > Next week I get a new list of 500 emails that has never been tested. I would > like to do an SMTP handshake(without sending) to verify the > domains/addresses that will accept the emails, and remove the addresses that > fail. This makes bounce managem

Re: [Zope-dev] from Globals import Persistent

2001-11-15 Thread Roger Espinosa
It works, but at least for me, that was _really slow_. import ZODB seemed to do the job, and quicker to boot. Roger On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, R. David Murray wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Benjamin Buffereau wrote: > > I'm using the binary version of Zope 2.4.3 for Windows. I'm trying to run the >

Re: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Andreas Jung
- Original Message - From: "Matt Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 09:33 Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several? > > This is not actually possible with SMTP. Various MTAs do have the > functi

Re: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Jim Washington
Matt Hamilton wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Trevor Toenjes wrote: > > >>Next week I get a new list of 500 emails that has never been tested. I would >>like to do an SMTP handshake(without sending) to verify the >>domains/addresses that will accept the emails, and remove the addresses that >>fai

[Zope-dev] Another Signal 11 Question

2001-11-15 Thread Alex Kelly
I too have been having a lot of restarts with error code 11. After reading some other comments relating to this, I recompiled Python 2.1.1 with the "--without-pymalloc" option. I have not yet seen any problems from doing this, but my questions are: Is this the preferred method to fix the Si

[Zope-dev] Error code 4?

2001-11-15 Thread Alex Kelly
I have been working on fixing our "Error code: 11" problems, however we also have about the same amount of "Error Code: 4" entries in our debug.log. Does anyone know what that is, and what I can do to clear that one up too? For the record we are running: Solaris 8 on a sparc Python 2.1.1 (com

[Zope-dev] Zope Version (As reported by ZMI)

2001-11-15 Thread Alex Kelly
I noticed that after I compiled zope from the source, the zope version that is reported in the Control Panel says: (Zope 2.4.3 (source release, python 2.1, linux2), python 2.1.1, sunos5) I have done all the compiling (Zope+Python) on one Solaris box, so why is "linux2" reported in that string?

Re: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Lennart Regebro
From: "Jim Washington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Apparently _some_ of this is possible. A couple of weeks ago, I was > facing a similar situation, and found a site on the web that would do > validation of email addresses by (IIRC) sending a mailto header to the > mail domain and looking at the respon

Re: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Leonardo Rochael Almeida
Folks, I might be wrong, but I think we are kinda missing the point in this discussion. As was mentioned before, the SMTP system operates in a store and forward mode, and you can never be sure of the arrival of the message just because the SMTP server in front of you accepted it for delivery

RE: [Zope-dev] What to do when one mail recipient fails out of several?

2001-11-15 Thread Trevor Toenjes
> Apparently _some_ of this is possible. A couple of weeks ago, I was > facing a similar situation, and found a site on the web that would do > validation of email addresses by (IIRC) sending a mailto header to the > mail domain and looking at the response. It did not work for all > domains, not

Re: [Zope-dev] Another Signal 11 Question

2001-11-15 Thread Tom Jenkins
On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 10:34, Alex Kelly wrote: > I too have been having a lot of restarts with error code 11. After > reading some other comments relating to this, I recompiled Python 2.1.1 > with the "--without-pymalloc" option. I have not yet seen any problems > from doing this, but my ques

Re: [Zope-dev] Error code 4?

2001-11-15 Thread Dieter Maurer
Alex Kelly writes: > I have been working on fixing our "Error code: 11" problems, however we > also have about the same amount of "Error Code: 4" entries in our > debug.log. Does anyone know what that is, and what I can do to clear > that one up too? This is a SIGILL (illegal instruction).

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