Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?

2010-04-02 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Marius, +1 on a KGS 3.4.1 Local overrides here: zope.component = 3.5.1 zope.contenttype = 3.4.2 zope.i18n = 3.5.0 zope.sendmail = 3.5.0 zope.server = 3.5.0 zope.session = 3.5.2 zope.tal = 3.5.0 zope.testing = 3.7.5 #was 3.7.0 but let's try this zope.traversing = 3.5.0a4 zope.testbrowser =

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?

2010-04-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/2/10 10:36 , Adam GROSZER wrote: > zc.buildout is a tough decision, because it's "not upgrading" issue. > See http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2010-March/015794.html Why would you ever install zc.buildout systemwide? Just as with setuptools I consider that to be a recipe for pr

Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?

2010-04-02 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Wichert, Because of our toolchain to release and deploy apps: mypypi and keas.build. In fact, because of keas.build depends on zc.buildout. Friday, April 2, 2010, 10:53:26 AM, you wrote: WA> On 4/2/10 10:36 , Adam GROSZER wrote: >> zc.buildout is a tough decision, because it's "not upgradi

[Zope-dev] zc.buildout "not upgrading" issue (was Re: RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?)

2010-04-02 Thread Marius Gedminas
A: Because it makes the logic of the discussion difficult to follow. Q: Why shouldn't I top post? A: No. Q: Should I top post? On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:29:48PM +0200, Adam GROSZER wrote: > Hello Wichert, > > Because of our toolchain to release and deploy apps: mypypi and > keas.build. In fact,

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-02 Thread Marius Gedminas
A: Because it destroys the flow of the conversation Q: Why is it bad? A: No, it's bad. Q: Should I top post in replies to mailing lists? On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:26:59PM +0800, Tim Hoffman wrote: > Hi Martin > > Given that its failing on a call to libc I would do a quick run with > strace and l

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-02 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 11:29:06AM +0800, Martin Aspeli wrote: > > I'd be reaching for python/expat debug symbols and gdb, probably. > > I'm not sure how to do that. My gdb fu is *very* limited. Have you used pdb? gdb is mostly the same. gdb python and when it crashes, type 'bt' at the (g

Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout "not upgrading" issue (was Re: RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?)

2010-04-02 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Marius, Friday, April 2, 2010, 3:02:53 PM, you wrote: MG> On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:29:48PM +0200, Adam GROSZER wrote: >> Hello Wichert, >> >> Because of our toolchain to release and deploy apps: mypypi and >> keas.build. In fact, because of keas.build depends on zc.buildout. >> >> Frida

Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout "not upgrading" issue (was Re: RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?)

2010-04-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 4/2/10 16:23 , Adam GROSZER wrote: > The way you install your app with is: > > $ install -u https://build.twollo.com/buildouts/ -p Twollo -V QA --latest > > Where the install script comes with keas.build. > At this point nothing exists from your app on the server, not even a > .cfg or svn checko

Re: [Zope-dev] Segfault in zope.configuration

2010-04-02 Thread Tim Hoffman
sorry On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Marius Gedminas wrote: > A: Because it destroys the flow of the conversation > Q: Why is it bad? > A: No, it's bad. > Q: Should I top post in replies to mailing lists? > > On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:26:59PM +0800, Tim Hoffman wrote: >> Hi Martin >> >> Given t

Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout "not upgrading" issue (was Re: RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?)

2010-04-02 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 04:23:25PM +0200, Adam GROSZER wrote: > MG> On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 12:29:48PM +0200, Adam GROSZER wrote: > >> Hello Wichert, > >> > >> Because of our toolchain to release and deploy apps: mypypi and > >> keas.build. In fact, because of keas.build depends on zc.buildout. >

Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout "not upgrading" issue (was Re: RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?)

2010-04-02 Thread Fred Drake
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote: > Maybe it would make sense to add a command-line option for buildout to > override version pins? > >  bin/buildout -t 2 -c configfile --pin zc.buildout=1.4.3 \ >               --pin setuptools=0.9c11 > > with "--pin zc.buildout=" meaning "us

Re: [Zope-dev] zc.buildout "not upgrading" issue (was Re: RFC: 3.4.1 KGS?)

2010-04-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Friday 02 April 2010, Marius Gedminas wrote: > Why not do > > python2.x bootstrap.py > > and then use > > bin/buildout > > instead of the globally-installed buildout? I definitely hear you. On the other hand, I think of buildout as a replacement for make. And I would not want to instal

[Zope-dev] zope.testing and unittest2

2010-04-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
Hi, Has anyone given any thought to supporting the new constructs of unittest2 (http://pypi.python.org/pypi/unittest2) in zope.testing? Using zope.testing 3.9.3 and a simple test case with unittest2, I made the following observations: - A basic test case works fine; a subclass of unittest2.T