Re: [Zope-dev] I Like ZClasses as a separate product, I like Democracy Better
On 10/2/06, Christopher Lozinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do like the idea of ZClasses as a separate product. Actually I think all of Zope should be an assembly of separate products. I would love to see multiple flavors of Zope each as an assembly of separate products. If we make ZClasses a separate product, does that mean we can get our own mailing list for ZClasses. Maybe a separate web site, wiki, etc? Of course. Whoever takes over the project is of course free to make whatever websites they want. Maybe the 4 or 5 companies who care about ZClasses can get together and fund the upgrade. I am still not sure if the next version of my application will be in Zope 3 or not, but if it is, I see it as a completely separate code base. At the moment it still is. Accordingly, this rapid evolution of Zope, to make it compatible with Zope 3 drives a lot of us nuts. We would prefer to just see a stable Zope 2, and an incompatible Zope 3. Zope2 does not change rapidly in an incompatible way. The rapid changes and all the depracation warnings are if you are using Zope3 or Five. Something that is completely unrelated to the ZCLass issue. Many of us have wnated to depracate or separate ZClasses for a long time, because nobody has time to work on it. That has nothing to do with Zope3. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] I Like ZClasses as a separate product, I like Democracy Better
--On 2. Oktober 2006 10:24:33 -0700 Christopher Lozinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do like the idea of ZClasses as a separate product. If we make ZClasses a separate product, does that mean we can get our own mailing list for ZClasses. Maybe a separate web site, wiki, etc? I doubt that there would be any objections if you want to take over responsibility and ownership over this particular subproject. Maybe the 4 or 5 companies who care about ZClasses can get together and fund the upgrade. How much will your company offer? Will you work on getting the funding together? Open source is good, democratic source would be better. What does that mean? I am not trying to upset people with this email message. I just want to present a different point of view. I am only upset to continuous postings containing a lot of hot air without any kind of outcome. I bring it back the point: you have legitimate interest in ZClasses. Most of the core developers don't have such an interest. It is now *your turn* to do something for ZClasses - either by finding a volunteer to fix outstanding issues or by fundraising to pay a talented ZClasses maintainer. Sorry for repeating myself but I don't see any progress on the ZClasses front. As release manager I want to make clear that I don't want to ship further Zope 2 releases with packages that are in a bad shape and partly broken (I am not talking of packages that are in bad shape but that do work :-)). Andreas pgpg9zvy3o5Xe.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] I Like ZClasses as a separate product, I like Democracy Better
I do like the idea of ZClasses as a separate product. Actually I think all of Zope should be an assembly of separate products. I would love to see multiple flavors of Zope each as an assembly of separate products. If we make ZClasses a separate product, does that mean we can get our own mailing list for ZClasses. Maybe a separate web site, wiki, etc? Maybe the 4 or 5 companies who care about ZClasses can get together and fund the upgrade. I am still not sure if the next version of my application will be in Zope 3 or not, but if it is, I see it as a completely separate code base. Accordingly, this rapid evolution of Zope, to make it compatible with Zope 3 drives a lot of us nuts. We would prefer to just see a stable Zope 2, and an incompatible Zope 3. But I get no say in the matter. Open source is good, democratic source would be better. I am not trying to upset people with this email message. I just want to present a different point of view. Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
