Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi there, thanks to all of you for the feedback. Given the general agreement to the plan, I'm going to release a first alpha on Friday June 25. More alpha releases will follow depending on the changes that go into the codebase. But I expect them on a roughly 3-4 weeks basis. If the code stays as

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonas Meurer wrote: > hello, > > On 13/06/2010 Hanno Schlichting wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: >>> another build system would be magnificent :-) >>> >>> the new build system in zope2.12 makes it hard/impossible to di

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: > first, thanks for clarifying. did i get you right, that for the future, > monolithic source releases of zope2 are planned again once the dust has > settled? No. There is currently no monolithic released planned at all. Only if someone d

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-14 Thread Jonas Meurer
hello, On 13/06/2010 Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: > > another build system would be magnificent :-) > > > > the new build system in zope2.12 makes it hard/impossible to distribute > > zope2 binaries within linux/*bsd/hurd/... distributions. so f

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Stephan Richter
On Sunday, June 13, 2010, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, David Glick wrote: > > Has the process of reviewing RestrictedPython against a new Python > > release been documented anywhere? > > Not that I know of. Stephan Richter and Sidnei da Silva were the last > to do

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonas Meurer wrote: > hey, > > On 12/06/2010 Hanno Schlichting wrote: >> What do we have in Zope 2.13: >> >> [...] >> >> Comments, suggestions, more work you'd like to get into 2.13? > > another build system would be magnificent :-) > > the new buil

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 2010-06-13, at 1348, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, David Glick > wrote: >> Has the process of reviewing RestrictedPython against a new Python >> release been documented anywhere? > > Not that I know of. Stephan Richter and Sidnei da Silva were the last > to do

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Andreas Jung
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonas Meurer wrote: > > > thus i suggest to either provide monolithic tarballs which do contain > the debendencies, or change release policy for the dependencies to not > break backwards compability with every minor release. > > I think this discus

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > On the whole, I would actually favor getting a 2.13.0 out even sooner > than Hanno suggests, to get it used (and therefore more polished) > sooner.  With the post-eggification reduction in Zope2's scope, I think > a six month cycle for major re

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charlie Clark wrote: > thanks for the information. I'm a little confused by the narrative - is > Plone 4.0 being held back by a Zope 2 release? As I don't use Plone I > don't care about its release status and I don't think it should drive > Zope

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM, David Glick wrote: > Has the process of reviewing RestrictedPython against a new Python > release been documented anywhere? Not that I know of. Stephan Richter and Sidnei da Silva were the last to do these reviews, maybe they know. Hanno _

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi Charlie, On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Charlie Clark wrote: > thanks for the information. I'm a little confused by the narrative - is > Plone 4.0 being held back by a Zope 2 release? No, Plone 4 is delayed for all the normal reasons of too many open bugs caused by the massive amount of cha

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-13 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 12.06.2010, 20:58 Uhr, schrieb Hanno Schlichting : > Comments, suggestions, more work you'd like to get into 2.13? Hi Hanno, thanks for the information. I'm a little confused by the narrative - is Plone 4.0 being held back by a Zope 2 release? As I don't use Plone I don't care about its r

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: > another build system would be magnificent :-) > > the new build system in zope2.12 makes it hard/impossible to distribute > zope2 binaries within linux/*bsd/hurd/... distributions. so far no > distribution i know contains zope2.12, and the mo

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-12 Thread Jonas Meurer
hey, On 12/06/2010 Hanno Schlichting wrote: > What do we have in Zope 2.13: > > [...] > > Comments, suggestions, more work you'd like to get into 2.13? another build system would be magnificent :-) the new build system in zope2.12 makes it hard/impossible to distribute zope2 binaries within li

[Zope-dev] Zope 2.13 - next steps

2010-06-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
Hi there, we had an initial roadmap discussion back in March (https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2010-March/039915.html). Some things have changed since then, so it's time for an update. The big picture: Zope 2.12.0 final was released October 1, 2009 - the first alpha back in February 2009