Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
On Jun 20, 2008, at 06:20 , David Lawson wrote: Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive and prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on zope.org. Well. I had a look and I can certainly see why you've noticed a difference. zope.org, prior to the move, was essentially un- cached. It had a very small cache configured on the children and the parents were configured not to cache anything for zope.org at all. We can certainly go back to that configuration if you'd like, it's a pretty minimal change. Please do. A slow zope.org is still better than an unusable zope.org. ;-) jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
On Jun 20, 2008, at 3:14 AM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Jun 20, 2008, at 06:20 , David Lawson wrote: Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive and prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on zope.org. Well. I had a look and I can certainly see why you've noticed a difference. zope.org, prior to the move, was essentially un- cached. It had a very small cache configured on the children and the parents were configured not to cache anything for zope.org at all. We can certainly go back to that configuration if you'd like, it's a pretty minimal change. Please do. A slow zope.org is still better than an unusable zope.org. ;-) Fair enough, I'll have those done for you in a bit. --Dave Systems Administrator Zope Corp. 540-361-1722 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
--On 15. Juni 2008 13:25:51 +0200 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 15. Juni 2008 06:16:52 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 15, 2008, at 06:09 , Andreas Jung wrote: --On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good tradeoff for the current site. The current caching makes it impossible to edit anything on zope.org in a reasonable way. I have always been able to work with it using force-reload where necessary, using Camino or Firefox. I know some other browsers like Safari don't seem to be able to send a real force-reload, so I gave up on those for zope.org editing work. I have to admit I have not done any editing work after this move, but I have been able to log in and get to folder content views etc with all logged-in options intact and visible. If you are using a suitable browser that can issue real forced reloads and you still see a problem let us know, David (or some other ZC SA) will have to look into it then. I am always using suitable tools :-) Using Firefox here. I am logged in as ajung. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0 shows up with all Plohn edit options. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/ does not. Even worser: wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents; returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context. That's totally broken :-) What is the current status of this issue? It can not be that personalized content (of authenticated users) is being cached and delivered to the outside world. I still can not do anything on zope.org :- Andreas pgphenAMkisHS.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
On Jun 19, 2008, at 20:53 , Andreas Jung wrote: I am logged in as ajung. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0 shows up with all Plohn edit options. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/ does not. Even worser: wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents; returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context. That's totally broken :-) What is the current status of this issue? It can not be that personalized content (of authenticated users) is being cached and delivered to the outside world. I still can not do anything on zope.org :- I do not know what the status is since I can't touch the caching tier and have to rely on ZC admins to fix it. I'm CCing Dave Lawson. Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive and prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on zope.org. Thanks! jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On Jun 19, 2008, at 20:53 , Andreas Jung wrote: I am logged in as ajung. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0 shows up with all Plohn edit options. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/ does not. Even worser: wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents; returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context. That's totally broken :-) What is the current status of this issue? It can not be that personalized content (of authenticated users) is being cached and delivered to the outside world. I still can not do anything on zope.org :- I do not know what the status is since I can't touch the caching tier and have to rely on ZC admins to fix it. I'm CCing Dave Lawson. Dave, is there a way to go back to the caching configuration that existed before the move? The current caching is way too aggressive and prevents people from doing any content creation and editing on zope.org. Well. I had a look and I can certainly see why you've noticed a difference. zope.org, prior to the move, was essentially un-cached. It had a very small cache configured on the children and the parents were configured not to cache anything for zope.org at all. We can certainly go back to that configuration if you'd like, it's a pretty minimal change. --Dave Systems Administrator Zope Corp. 540-361-1722 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
--On 14. Juni 2008 11:35:46 +0200 Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 13. Juni 2008 04:17:28 -0400 David Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've completed the zope.org migration, the site is responding, mail.zope.org is up and looks to be processing mail, as well as serving the list archives and all just fine, and I can see people logging in to cvs so everything looks good. The instances running www.zope.org are more than a bit slow at the moment because they lost their object caches, so I've got a monitor running on them to put the caches in offline mode to let the instances recover a bit when they get backed up. All in all, while this took a little longer than I was anticipating, it went quite smoothly. There is an issue with the catalog queue. Workflow changes and new objects within the Plone were not reflected directly. So I had to process the catalog queue manually. The queue said 3 objects in queue. After processing the queue say empty...going back to the Queue tabs tells me 3 objects in queue...anything missing? There is also a weird issue with the caching. I am logged in as manager and can access all edit features for the 2.11.0 release. Then when switching to an older release package in order for copying over a newsitem as template, Ihave no options available and treated as anonymous...reloading does not help :- Andreas pgpBwGjbIuYlV.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
--On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good tradeoff for the current site. The current caching makes it impossible to edit anything on zope.org in a reasonable way. Andreas pgpmzfOFLpeDI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
On Jun 15, 2008, at 06:09 , Andreas Jung wrote: --On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good tradeoff for the current site. The current caching makes it impossible to edit anything on zope.org in a reasonable way. I have always been able to work with it using force-reload where necessary, using Camino or Firefox. I know some other browsers like Safari don't seem to be able to send a real force-reload, so I gave up on those for zope.org editing work. I have to admit I have not done any editing work after this move, but I have been able to log in and get to folder content views etc with all logged-in options intact and visible. If you are using a suitable browser that can issue real forced reloads and you still see a problem let us know, David (or some other ZC SA) will have to look into it then. jens ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
--On 15. Juni 2008 06:16:52 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 15, 2008, at 06:09 , Andreas Jung wrote: --On 15. Juni 2008 06:04:37 -0500 Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO seeing some caching-related issues in exchange for enjoying a redundantly configured caching tier is a good tradeoff for the current site. The current caching makes it impossible to edit anything on zope.org in a reasonable way. I have always been able to work with it using force-reload where necessary, using Camino or Firefox. I know some other browsers like Safari don't seem to be able to send a real force-reload, so I gave up on those for zope.org editing work. I have to admit I have not done any editing work after this move, but I have been able to log in and get to folder content views etc with all logged-in options intact and visible. If you are using a suitable browser that can issue real forced reloads and you still see a problem let us know, David (or some other ZC SA) will have to look into it then. I am always using suitable tools :-) Using Firefox here. I am logged in as ajung. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0 shows up with all Plohn edit options. http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.6/ does not. Even worser: wget http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.11.0/folder_contents; returns the page from the cache rendered within _my_ user context. That's totally broken :-) Andreas pgplOd9z5I290.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
Re: [ZWeb] zope.org migration
--On 13. Juni 2008 04:17:28 -0400 David Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've completed the zope.org migration, the site is responding, mail.zope.org is up and looks to be processing mail, as well as serving the list archives and all just fine, and I can see people logging in to cvs so everything looks good. The instances running www.zope.org are more than a bit slow at the moment because they lost their object caches, so I've got a monitor running on them to put the caches in offline mode to let the instances recover a bit when they get backed up. All in all, while this took a little longer than I was anticipating, it went quite smoothly. There is an issue with the catalog queue. Workflow changes and new objects within the Plone were not reflected directly. So I had to process the catalog queue manually. The queue said 3 objects in queue. After processing the queue say empty...going back to the Queue tabs tells me 3 objects in queue...anything missing? Andreas pgp4pdM0Ikb6W.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
[ZWeb] zope.org migration
We've completed the zope.org migration, the site is responding, mail.zope.org is up and looks to be processing mail, as well as serving the list archives and all just fine, and I can see people logging in to cvs so everything looks good. The instances running www.zope.org are more than a bit slow at the moment because they lost their object caches, so I've got a monitor running on them to put the caches in offline mode to let the instances recover a bit when they get backed up. All in all, while this took a little longer than I was anticipating, it went quite smoothly. --Dave Systems Administrator Zope Corp. 540-361-1722 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-web maillist - Zope-web@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-web
