Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-10-02 Thread Martijn Faassen

Chris Withers wrote:

Justizin wrote:

I will take the next opportunity I have to bring this up with ACM HQ.
We have about fifty servers in Verizon / NYC, and this might be a good
way for us to begin contributing to the community at an organizational
level. :)


OK, but what happens if you/they get bored of Zope?


ACM is smart enough to discuss some eventualities, and the ZF would 
naturally as well should ACM make an offer. :)


Regards,

Martijn
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Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-30 Thread Justizin

On 9/29/06, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Martijn Faassen wrote:
 On the medium to long term, I *would* like to pull in other hardware
 besides ZC's, by the way.

OK, but who apart from ZC is offering hardware of a similar resilience?



Possibly the Association for Computing Machinery. ;)

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Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-29 Thread Martijn Faassen

Justizin wrote:

On 9/28/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris Withers wrote:
 Justizin wrote:
 I don't want to take all the cookies, but like I said, I already own a
 bunch of apaches, including siggraph.org and turing.acm.org, as a
 volunteer.

 I'd prefer the stuff we're talking about to live ideally on ZC's
 hardware...

I don't think Justizin was suggesting we run this stuff off other 
hardware.




Nah, I simply meant that I don't mind being responsible for another
Apache installation / configuration.


Okay, since nobody else stepped up, you're now the Apache static file 
admin. The first step is to get you set up with access permissions. I'll 
go see who can help you there. I assume you're willing to sign a Zope 
Corporation agreement before you get access? The stuff is running on 
their hosting infrastructure right now and they want to be careful. The 
first thing I must do is acutally hunt up that agreement, which I've 
never seen myself. :)



On the medium to long term, I *would* like to pull in other hardware
besides ZC's, by the way. Of course that would need to be on the basis
of a well-supported machine. Eventually the ZF will want to take over
the zope.org hosting, and probably not from within the context of ZC's
hosting environment.


I will take the next opportunity I have to bring this up with ACM HQ.
We have about fifty servers in Verizon / NYC, and this might be a good
way for us to begin contributing to the community at an organizational
level. :) 


Great!

Regards,

Martijn

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Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-29 Thread Darryl Cousins
On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 13:25 +0200, Martijn Faassen wrote:
 The 
 first thing I must do is acutally hunt up that agreement, which I've 
 never seen myself. :) 

Hi,

http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/ContributorIntroduction

with the pdf agreement:

http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/Contributor.pdf

Regards,
Darryl

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Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-29 Thread Chris Withers

Martijn Faassen wrote:
On the medium to long term, I *would* like to pull in other hardware 
besides ZC's, by the way.


OK, but who apart from ZC is offering hardware of a similar resilience?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-29 Thread Chris Withers

Martijn Faassen wrote:


No, we can make it serf if you prefer. Probably DNS admin and Apache 
admin is better. :) Thanks for the offer! We'll give it a day and see 
who else volunteers. If nobody, I'll certainly take you up on it.


I can certainly help admin an Apache config if needed and if I have 
suitable login details...


Chris

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Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-28 Thread Martijn Faassen

Chris Withers wrote:

Justizin wrote:

I don't want to take all the cookies, but like I said, I already own a
bunch of apaches, including siggraph.org and turing.acm.org, as a
volunteer. 


I'd prefer the stuff we're talking about to live ideally on ZC's 
hardware...


I don't think Justizin was suggesting we run this stuff off other hardware.

On the medium to long term, I *would* like to pull in other hardware 
besides ZC's, by the way. Of course that would need to be on the basis 
of a well-supported machine. Eventually the ZF will want to take over 
the zope.org hosting, and probably not from within the context of ZC's 
hosting environment.


Regards,

Martijn
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Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-28 Thread Justizin

On 9/28/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris Withers wrote:
 Justizin wrote:
 I don't want to take all the cookies, but like I said, I already own a
 bunch of apaches, including siggraph.org and turing.acm.org, as a
 volunteer.

 I'd prefer the stuff we're talking about to live ideally on ZC's
 hardware...

I don't think Justizin was suggesting we run this stuff off other hardware.



Nah, I simply meant that I don't mind being responsible for another
Apache installation / configuration.


On the medium to long term, I *would* like to pull in other hardware
besides ZC's, by the way. Of course that would need to be on the basis
of a well-supported machine. Eventually the ZF will want to take over
the zope.org hosting, and probably not from within the context of ZC's
hosting environment.



I will take the next opportunity I have to bring this up with ACM HQ.
We have about fifty servers in Verizon / NYC, and this might be a good
way for us to begin contributing to the community at an organizational
level. :)

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ACM SIGGRAPH SysMgr, Reporter
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Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-27 Thread Justizin

On 9/27/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi there,

The DNS situation is under control, so we should be able to do stuff
with foo.zope.org soon. What it does need is servers that can actually
host content, but that's not what I'm going to ask in this mail.

What we need as a minimum very soon is a way to serve static files from
www.zope.org/foundation. At first I thought there was no apache that
could take of that, but then Chris Withers got out the real truth: there is.

So, what's needed next to the DNS Czar (Justizin) is a Static Site Czar.
What I need from the Static Site Czar is:

* someone who has or gains access so they can configure static sites,
and give the rest of us minimum access so we can upload pages.

* a single point of contact I can just ask to do stuff. Like, we have
www.zope.org/foundation, and this is the HTML that should go into it,
please make it work.

The expectation is that the Static Site Czar will have less work to do
in the future, as we probably eventually will move these bits of
zope.org to be hosted by a content management system. This just seems to
be the most straightforward intermediate solution.

So, who is volunteering to be Static Czar?



I don't want to take all the cookies, but like I said, I already own a
bunch of apaches, including siggraph.org and turing.acm.org, as a
volunteer.  The latter probably contains a thousand sites and requires
very little attention - one more will barely weigh in.

Does it have to be Czar? ;d

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Re: [ZWeb] serving up static files from www.zope.org

2006-09-27 Thread Martijn Faassen

Justizin wrote:

On 9/27/06, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

So, who is volunteering to be Static Czar?


I don't want to take all the cookies, but like I said, I already own a
bunch of apaches, including siggraph.org and turing.acm.org, as a
volunteer.  The latter probably contains a thousand sites and requires
very little attention - one more will barely weigh in.

Does it have to be Czar? ;d


No, we can make it serf if you prefer. Probably DNS admin and Apache 
admin is better. :) Thanks for the offer! We'll give it a day and see 
who else volunteers. If nobody, I'll certainly take you up on it.


Regards.

Martijn

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